Badak Air Tergolong Dalam Keluarga Khinzir....

[MoFiee 0]

ari tu saye ade tgok rancangan national geographic kat astro....mereka ade bgtau yg badak air bkn kuih badak berendam tau,adalah tergolong dalam kluarga khinzir....dalam agama islam sendiri pun mnyatakan ape saje yg berketurunan drpd khinzir adalah HARAM...so ape kes dgn badak air skang ni????HARAM ke HALAL....??????

[slaughters 1]

takde fakta. so jangan percaya.

[MoFiee 0]

takde fakta. so jangan percaya.

National Graphic tu bkn fakta ke?????

[hairulfadly 27]

Kita makan Badak air ke ?

Yang aku tahu kita kalau panas badan minum air sumbu cap Badak ..

Nanti badan ko jadi sejuk macam Badak ..

[slaughters 1]

National Graphic tu bkn fakta ke?????

ko pun tak tunjukkan fakta tu kat sini. macamana aku nak percaya cakap ngko ? kot2 ngko salah dengar.

dah bertahun2 badak tu dok berendam dalam air, takde sape2 sibuk pun nak kata die tu same geng dengan khinzir, tibe2 ko plak bising2 kat sini kata same fam plak.

then suruh orang percaya tanpa ada apa2 artikel or apa2 yang berkaitan untuk sokong apa ko cakap nieh..

buat masa nie, takyah la percaya..

[MoFiee 0]

Kita makan Badak air ke ?

Yang aku tahu kita kalau panas badan minum air sumbu cap Badak ..

Nanti badan ko jadi sejuk macam Badak ..

ari sumbu cap badak?????muauauauauauauahahahahah.......maner ade air sumbu cap badak,air cap badak sumbu adelahhh.........tapi kat kedai mamak kat tmpat aku ade jual sumbu pelita cap badak....

ko pun tak tunjukkan fakta tu kat sini. macamana aku nak percaya cakap ngko ? kot2 ngko salah dengar.

dah bertahun2 badak tu dok berendam dalam air, takde sape2 sibuk pun nak kata die tu same geng dengan khinzir, tibe2 ko plak bising2 kat sini kata same fam plak.

then suruh orang percaya tanpa ada apa2 artikel or apa2 yang berkaitan untuk sokong apa ko cakap nieh..

buat masa nie, takyah la percaya..

wokey...wokey....

[P Untuk Pendeta 0]

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Hippopotamus

Origin: L, from gr.; horse _ river. cf. equine.

(Science: zoology) a large, amphibious, herbivorous mammal (hippopotamus amphibius), common in the rivers of Africa. It is allied to the hogs, and has a very thick, naked skin, a thick and square head, a very large muzzle, small eyes and ears, thick and heavy body, and short legs. It is supposed to be the behemoth of the bible. Called also zeekoe, and river horse. a smaller species (H. Liberiencis) inhabits western Africa.

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/release...24_hippos.shtml

UC Berkeley, French scientists find missing link between the whale and its closest relative, the hippo

By Robert Sanders, Media Relations | 24 January 2005

BERKELEY – A group of four-footed mammals that flourished worldwide for 40 million years and then died out in the ice ages is the missing link between the whale and its not-so-obvious nearest relative, the hippopotamus.

The conclusion by University of California, Berkeley, post-doctoral fellow Jean-Renaud Boisserie and his French colleagues finally puts to rest the long-standing notion that the hippo is actually related to the pig or to its close relative, the South American peccary. In doing so, the finding reconciles the fossil record with the 20-year-old claim that molecular evidence points to the whale as the closest relative of the hippo.

"The problem with hippos is, if you look at the general shape of the animal it could be related to horses, as the ancient Greeks thought, or pigs, as modern scientists thought, while molecular phylogeny shows a close relationship with whales," said Boisserie. "But cetaceans – whales, porpoises and dolphins – don't look anything like hippos. There is a 40-million-year gap between fossils of early cetaceans and early hippos."

In a paper appearing this week in the Online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Boisserie and colleagues Michel Brunet and Fabrice Lihoreau fill in this gap by proposing that whales and hippos had a common water-loving ancestor 50 to 60 million years ago that evolved and split into two groups: the early cetaceans, which eventually spurned land altogether and became totally aquatic; and a large and diverse group of four-legged beasts called anthracotheres. The pig-like anthracotheres, which blossomed over a 40-million-year period into at least 37 distinct genera on all continents except Oceania and South America, died out less than 2 and a half million years ago, leaving only one descendent: the hippopotamus.

This proposal places whales squarely within the large group of cloven-hoofed mammals (even-toed ungulates) known collectively as the Artiodactyla – the group that includes cows, pigs, sheep, antelopes, camels, giraffes and most of the large land animals. Rather than separating whales from the rest of the mammals, the new study supports a 1997 proposal to place the legless whales and dolphins together with the cloven-hoofed mammals in a group named Cetartiodactyla.

"Our study shows that these groups are not as unrelated as thought by morphologists," Boisserie said, referring to scientists who classify organisms based on their physical characteristics or morphology. "Cetaceans are artiodactyls, but very derived artiodactyls."

The origin of hippos has been debated vociferously for nearly 200 years, ever since the animals were rediscovered by pioneering French paleontologist Georges Cuvier and others. Their conclusion that hippos are closely related to pigs and peccaries was based primarily on their interpretation of the ridges on the molars of these species, Boisserie said.

"In this particular case, you can't really rely on the dentition, however," Boisserie said. "Teeth are the best preserved and most numerous fossils, and analysis of teeth is very important in paleontology, but they are subject to lots of environmental processes and can quickly adapt to the outside world. So, most characteristics are not dependable indications of relationships between major groups of mammals. Teeth are not as reliable as people thought."

As scientists found more fossils of early hippos and anthracotheres, a competing hypothesis roiled the waters: that hippos are descendents of the anthracotheres. (Sila lihat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracotherium)

All this was thrown into disarray in 1985 when UC Berkeley's Vincent Sarich, a pioneer of the field of molecular evolution and now a professor emeritus of anthropology, analyzed blood proteins and saw a close relationship between hippos and whales. A subsequent analysis of mitochondrial, nuclear and ribosomal DNA only solidified this relationship.

Though most biologists now agree that whales and hippos are first cousins, they continue to clash over how whales and hippos are related, and where they belong within the even-toed ungulates, the artiodactyls. A major roadblock to linking whales with hippos was the lack of any fossils that appeared intermediate between the two. In fact, it was a bit embarrassing for paleontologists because the claimed link between the two would mean that one of the major radiations of mammals – the one that led to cetaceans, which represent the most successful re-adaptation to life in water – had an origin deeply nested within the artiodactyls, and that morphologists had failed to recognize it.

This new analysis finally brings the fossil evidence into accord with the molecular data, showing that whales and hippos indeed are one another's closest relatives.

"This work provides another important step for the reconciliation between molecular- and morphology-based phylogenies, and indicates new tracks for research on emergence of cetaceans," Boisserie said.

Boisserie became a hippo specialist while digging with Brunet for early human ancestors in the African republic of Chad. Most hominid fossils earlier than about 2 million years ago are found in association with hippo fossils, implying that they lived in the same biotopes and that hippos later became a source of food for our distant ancestors. Hippos first developed in Africa 16 million years ago and exploded in number around 8 million years ago, Boisserie said.

Now a post-doctoral fellow in the Human Evolution Research Center run by integrative biology professor Tim White at UC Berkeley, Boisserie decided to attempt a resolution of the conflict between the molecular data and the fossil record. New whale fossils discovered in Pakistan in 2001, some of which have limb characteristics similar to artiodactyls, drew a more certain link between whales and artiodactyls. Boisserie and his colleagues conducted a phylogenetic analysis of new and previous hippo, whale and anthracothere fossils and were able to argue persuasively that anthracotheres are the missing link between hippos and cetaceans.

While the common ancestor of cetaceans and anthracotheres probably wasn't fully aquatic, it likely lived around water, he said. And while many anthracotheres appear to have been adapted to life in water, all of the youngest fossils of anthracotheres, hippos and cetaceans are aquatic or semi-aquatic.

"Our study is the most complete to date, including lots of different taxa and a lot of new characteristics," Boisserie said. "Our results are very robust and a good alternative to our findings is still to be formulated."

Brunet is associated with the Laboratoire de Géobiologie, Biochronologie et Paléontologie Humaine at the Université de Poitiers and with the Collège de France in Paris. Lihoreau is a post-doctoral fellow in the Département de Paléontologie of the Université de N'Djaména in Chad.

The work was supported in part by the Mission Paléoanthropologique Franco-Tchadienne, which is co-directed by Brunet and Patrick Vignaud of the Université de Poitiers, and in part by funds to Boisserie from the Fondation Fyssen, the French Ministère des Affaires Etrangères and the National Science Foundation's Revealing Hominid Origins Initiative, which is co-directed by Tim White and Clark Howell of UC Berkeley.

Edited August 13, 2007 by Sinful

[MoFiee 0]

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Hippopotamus

Origin: L, from gr.; horse _ river. cf. equine.

(Science: zoology) a large, amphibious, herbivorous mammal (hippopotamus amphibius), common in the rivers of Africa. It is allied to the hogs, and has a very thick, naked skin, a thick and square head, a very large muzzle, small eyes and ears, thick and heavy body, and short legs. It is supposed to be the behemoth of the bible. Called also zeekoe, and river horse. a smaller species (H. Liberiencis) inhabits western Africa.

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/release...24_hippos.shtml

UC Berkeley, French scientists find missing link between the whale and its closest relative, the hippo

By Robert Sanders, Media Relations | 24 January 2005

BERKELEY �€“ A group of four-footed mammals that flourished worldwide for 40 million years and then died out in the ice ages is the missing link between the whale and its not-so-obvious nearest relative, the hippopotamus.

The conclusion by University of California, Berkeley, post-doctoral fellow Jean-Renaud Boisserie and his French colleagues finally puts to rest the long-standing notion that the hippo is actually related to the pig or to its close relative, the South American peccary. In doing so, the finding reconciles the fossil record with the 20-year-old claim that molecular evidence points to the whale as the closest relative of the hippo.

"The problem with hippos is, if you look at the general shape of the animal it could be related to horses, as the ancient Greeks thought, or pigs, as modern scientists thought, while molecular phylogeny shows a close relationship with whales," said Boisserie. "But cetaceans �€“ whales, porpoises and dolphins �€“ don't look anything like hippos. There is a 40-million-year gap between fossils of early cetaceans and early hippos."

In a paper appearing this week in the Online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Boisserie and colleagues Michel Brunet and Fabrice Lihoreau fill in this gap by proposing that whales and hippos had a common water-loving ancestor 50 to 60 million years ago that evolved and split into two groups: the early cetaceans, which eventually spurned land altogether and became totally aquatic; and a large and diverse group of four-legged beasts called anthracotheres. The pig-like anthracotheres, which blossomed over a 40-million-year period into at least 37 distinct genera on all continents except Oceania and South America, died out less than 2 and a half million years ago, leaving only one descendent: the hippopotamus.

This proposal places whales squarely within the large group of cloven-hoofed mammals (even-toed ungulates) known collectively as the Artiodactyla �€“ the group that includes cows, pigs, sheep, antelopes, camels, giraffes and most of the large land animals. Rather than separating whales from the rest of the mammals, the new study supports a 1997 proposal to place the legless whales and dolphins together with the cloven-hoofed mammals in a group named Cetartiodactyla.

"Our study shows that these groups are not as unrelated as thought by morphologists," Boisserie said, referring to scientists who classify organisms based on their physical characteristics or morphology. "Cetaceans are artiodactyls, but very derived artiodactyls."

The origin of hippos has been debated vociferously for nearly 200 years, ever since the animals were rediscovered by pioneering French paleontologist Georges Cuvier and others. Their conclusion that hippos are closely related to pigs and peccaries was based primarily on their interpretation of the ridges on the molars of these species, Boisserie said.

"In this particular case, you can't really rely on the dentition, however," Boisserie said. "Teeth are the best preserved and most numerous fossils, and analysis of teeth is very important in paleontology, but they are subject to lots of environmental processes and can quickly adapt to the outside world. So, most characteristics are not dependable indications of relationships between major groups of mammals. Teeth are not as reliable as people thought."

As scientists found more fossils of early hippos and anthracotheres, a competing hypothesis roiled the waters: that hippos are descendents of the anthracotheres. (Sila lihat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracotherium)

All this was thrown into disarray in 1985 when UC Berkeley's Vincent Sarich, a pioneer of the field of molecular evolution and now a professor emeritus of anthropology, analyzed blood proteins and saw a close relationship between hippos and whales. A subsequent analysis of mitochondrial, nuclear and ribosomal DNA only solidified this relationship.

Though most biologists now agree that whales and hippos are first cousins, they continue to clash over how whales and hippos are related, and where they belong within the even-toed ungulates, the artiodactyls. A major roadblock to linking whales with hippos was the lack of any fossils that appeared intermediate between the two. In fact, it was a bit embarrassing for paleontologists because the claimed link between the two would mean that one of the major radiations of mammals �€“ the one that led to cetaceans, which represent the most successful re-adaptation to life in water �€“ had an origin deeply nested within the artiodactyls, and that morphologists had failed to recognize it.

This new analysis finally brings the fossil evidence into accord with the molecular data, showing that whales and hippos indeed are one another's closest relatives.

"This work provides another important step for the reconciliation between molecular- and morphology-based phylogenies, and indicates new tracks for research on emergence of cetaceans," Boisserie said.

Boisserie became a hippo specialist while digging with Brunet for early human ancestors in the African republic of Chad. Most hominid fossils earlier than about 2 million years ago are found in association with hippo fossils, implying that they lived in the same biotopes and that hippos later became a source of food for our distant ancestors. Hippos first developed in Africa 16 million years ago and exploded in number around 8 million years ago, Boisserie said.

Now a post-doctoral fellow in the Human Evolution Research Center run by integrative biology professor Tim White at UC Berkeley, Boisserie decided to attempt a resolution of the conflict between the molecular data and the fossil record. New whale fossils discovered in Pakistan in 2001, some of which have limb characteristics similar to artiodactyls, drew a more certain link between whales and artiodactyls. Boisserie and his colleagues conducted a phylogenetic analysis of new and previous hippo, whale and anthracothere fossils and were able to argue persuasively that anthracotheres are the missing link between hippos and cetaceans.

While the common ancestor of cetaceans and anthracotheres probably wasn't fully aquatic, it likely lived around water, he said. And while many anthracotheres appear to have been adapted to life in water, all of the youngest fossils of anthracotheres, hippos and cetaceans are aquatic or semi-aquatic.

"Our study is the most complete to date, including lots of different taxa and a lot of new characteristics," Boisserie said. "Our results are very robust and a good alternative to our findings is still to be formulated."

Brunet is associated with the Laboratoire de G�obiologie, Biochronologie et Pal�ontologie Humaine at the Universit� de Poitiers and with the Coll�ge de France in Paris. Lihoreau is a post-doctoral fellow in the D�partement de Pal�ontologie of the Universit� de N'Djam�na in Chad.

The work was supported in part by the Mission Pal�oanthropologique Franco-Tchadienne, which is co-directed by Brunet and Patrick Vignaud of the Universit� de Poitiers, and in part by funds to Boisserie from the Fondation Fyssen, the French Minist�re des Affaires Etrang�res and the National Science Foundation's Revealing Hominid Origins Initiative, which is co-directed by Tim White and Clark Howell of UC Berkeley.

Tima Kasih la Sinful sbb bg fakta ni...Aku arap Slaughters dpt bace fakta ni...jd selama ni aku btul la...klu boleh ko(sinful) cari fakta dlm agama islam,ape kes dgn badak air ni..

[dragon 0]

ntahler...xpenah plak ako dgr badak air ni spesis khinzir..pepehal pon baik tanya org yg lebih arif...kalo was2,xpayah le pegang..habeh citer..lagipon kat mesia jarang jupe badak air..khinzir banyak ler...

[TJ-Ariff 40]

Aku pun hairanlah .. apa salah nak pegang..? salah ke ?

Bukannya haram kalau ko pegang...

[abixpert 0]

alaa... jangan gado gado...

orang yang dok zoo saja bole pegang badak air

sebab kat malaysia ni, badak air bukan ada banyak pon

kalau nak pegang jugak, g pegang bluehyppo... comey ja..

[malaynux 0]

pas tu..anjing ngan kucing lak.. rasanya lebih kurang tu..hahahah.

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Contoh : (yang aku faham) Maksud sebenar KETURUNAN

Kalau mak babi mengawan ngan bapak badak air, pas tu ia melahirkan anak (hasil hubungan tadi), maka anak ni lah dikatakan 'keturunan'..

KETURUNAN ni bermaksud.. hasil daripada proses 'mengawan' la.. hahaha.

Yang ni la yang HARAMnya..

Aku pun hairanlah .. apa salah nak pegang..? salah ke ?

Bukannya haram kalau ko pegang...

OFF TOPIC

ANJING (Binatang Haram) NGAN POMPUAN YANG BUKAN MUHRIM

Anjing

kalau kita pegang anjing atau babi atau keturunannya.. memang HARAM, haram kalau kita xsucikan (tempat yang terkena/tersentuh) pas tu wat ibadat.. (HARAM la sebab NAJIS tu ada lagi) kita kena sucikan dulu..baru boleh wat ibadat. sebab tu orang Islam, boleh memelihara anjing (tapi sebagai GUARD atau anjing PEMBURUAN - Tapi dilarang diletakkan dekat ngan tempat tinggal (aku lupa berapa jauh jaraknya)

Pompuan

Kalau kita sentuh pompuan (sengaja) hukumya HARAM + dapat DOSA (kalau xtaubat)

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Wassalam (maaf kalau ada kesalahan)

Edited August 14, 2007 by malayNUX

[DarkWan 3]

Begini. Keluarga yang dimaksudkan itu, adalah dari segi pengkelasan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus

As indicated by the name, ancient Greeks considered the hippopotamus to be related to the horse. Until 1985, naturalists grouped hippos with pigs, based on molar patterns. Evidence, first from blood proteins, then from molecular systematics[7] and DNA [8] and the fossil record, show that their closest living relatives are cetaceans—whales, porpoises and the like.[9][10] Hippopotami have more in common with whales than they do with other Artiodactyls (even-toed ungulates), such as pigs because the common ancestor of hippos and whales branched-off from ruminants and the rest of the even-toed ungulates. Thus, hippos are more closely related to whales than to other members of Artiodactyla. While cetaceans and hippos are each other's closest living relatives, their lineages split soon after their divergence from the rest of the even-toed ungulates.[11][8]

Jadi, pengkelasan Badak Air setakat ini adalah begini.

1) Greek : Keluarga Kuda (Hippopotamus = Kuda Sungai dlm Greek)

2) .. - 1985 : Keluarga Babi

3) 1985 - ?? : Keluarga Cetacea (eg: Ikan Paus, Dolphin - Mamalia laut)

Cuba track taksonomi dia utk dapatkan gambaran lebih jelas. Mula dari Class (Mammalia), Order, Suborder dan bawah-bawah dia tu - adakah sekarang ni masih sama dengan babi atau tak.

Ini pengkelasan dari segi biologi. Dari segi biologi, manusia adalah mamalia. Tapi, adakah manusia sama keluarga dengan kera? Nenek moyang manusia adakah kera? Tentu tidak bukan.

[boo_lat.zone 0]

yeke haram....

nsib baik aku tk amik part time job jd maskot tm net...

kene pkai custom "bluehypo" tu.... haram siot....

hehehe...

kalo tk truk aku kene samak....

peace

[malaynux 0]

xharam.. Pejabat Agama xkata apa2 pon.. hehe.

aku xpenah pegang badak..hhahaha.

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OFF TOPIC

DarkWan.. apa maksud PDP Moderator tu????

Edited August 14, 2007 by malayNUX

[abixpert 0]

PDP = Projek Dokumentasi Putera

hati2 korang.. apa yang diperkatakan dalam forum ni akan didokumentasi

macam buat buku..

tapi hanya ilmu2 yang berguna ja la

hihi

[ahmades 2]

Badak Air dan Babi tak sama. Dia hanya dikelaskan dalam keluarga Babi disebabkan bentuk dan pergerakkan fizikal bukannya gen yang datang dari babi. Sama macam Harimau dan Kucing. Kedua-duanya adalah dikelaskan dalam keluarga kucing disebabkan fizikal dan gaya pergerakkan. Bukannya mewarisi gen.

Sekian harap maklum.

[xtreme_paranoid 0]

Dia hanya dikelaskan dalam keluarga Babi disebabkan bentuk dan pergerakkan fizikal

sori klu off topik..

anjing ngan serigala dalam keluarga sama..

so serigala pon haram ker..?

*topik nih bg haku bagus..

dibincangkan. mmg ah kite x pegang badak air.

tapi bagaimana ngan org2 yg selalu terlibat ngan binatang tuh..

contoh, pekerja2 zoo..

saper2 yg tau hukum-hakam patut sebarkan halal/haram.

mane yg x tau same2 bincang n cari jawapan

[TJ-Ariff 40]

Salam Semua...

Apa yang saya perhatikan disini, adalah kesilapan kita dalam menggunakan perkataan Halal dan Haram.

Seorang guru ada mengatakan bahawa Anjing , Khinzir , labi , buaya dan seumpama nya adalah Haram hukum nya kita memakan nya, tetapi tidak haram untuk kita memegang nya.

Contoh Anjing , seluruh badannya termasuk najisnya adalah Najis Berat kepada kita umat Islam, jika tersentuh wajib disamak.

Tetapi ada nas mengatakan jika kulit kita kering dan kulit anjing itu juga kering, tidak menjadi masalah.

Bagi saya bukan semua benda yang hukum nya haram itu kita harus menjauhinya, kalau begitu amatlah tidak adil ALLAH itu untuk menyusahkan Umat Muhammad dengan benda benda yang macam gitu.

Islam itu Indah, dan keindahan Islam itu termasuk dalam hukum hukum yang ditetapkan dalam Islam. Apa yang penting adalah ilmu dan kefahaman akan ilmu tersebut, jangan kita ambil "muat-turun" saja tanpa kita kaji.

Faham akan Tempat hukum Haram yang dikenakan.

[P Untuk Pendeta 0]

Aku rasa, walaupun hippo ni ada relation dengan babi, tapi aku tak rasa relation dia serapat tenuk dan tapir dengan babi pun. Jangan nak kira bau2 bacang, dah jadi bau2 kentut dah. Tapi kalau nak sentuh, tak haram aku rasa.

[matrix01 0]

National Graphic tu bkn fakta ke?????

National Geographic selalu cakap manusia ni dari beruk... takkan aku nak terima sebagai fakta? Pada aku kalau sesuatu perkara tu berasaskan kepada hukum tak berasas iaitu teori revolusi maka aku menolak secara total sebab saintis mat saleh ni jumpa satu tulang tertanam selama 50mil tahun pastu buat satu cerita panjang lebar based on tulang tadi...

kebanyakan saintis pon tak mengambil teori revolusi ni sebagai sains sebagaimana homopati, kajian metafizik dsb... pada hemat aku yang cetek pengetahuan ni... hipo dari babi tak boleh nak pakai sgt...

[idan 1]

alahai...tetiba badak tu dikait dengan khinzir lak..

mungkin yg dimaksudkan dengan "keluarga" kat situ , susur galurnya ada ciri ciri persamaan.

tapie takdelah khinzir = badak.

jarang sangat nak jumpa badak nih , aku nengok kat zoo aja.

yg haram setahu aku (yg selalu disebut) cuma khinzir n anjing.

haram dimakan aja.kalo sentuh , takdelah dikatakan haram.

seumur hidup aku , tak pernah sentuh khinzir , and badak , kalo anjing tue selalu la.. dari kecik lagi berjirankan cina.

p/s : badak ada dijadikan produk makanan tak? hehe

[BdkPoli 0]

Ape-ape hal pun tak perlu risau jika korang tak sentyh natang tu... Kalo takde sebab nak pegang wat pa...

Ahaks...

[ahmades 2]

Pertama sekali, aku minta maaf kalau aku membangkitkan isu ini, Tetapi aku merasakan aku perlu membalas dua posting ini.

sori klu off topik..

anjing ngan serigala dalam keluarga sama..

so serigala pon haram ker..?

*topik nih bg haku bagus..

dibincangkan. mmg ah kite x pegang badak air.

tapi bagaimana ngan org2 yg selalu terlibat ngan binatang tuh..

contoh, pekerja2 zoo..

saper2 yg tau hukum-hakam patut sebarkan halal/haram.

mane yg x tau same2 bincang n cari jawapan

Serigala tak haram dipegang. Ahli sains bila mereka mengkelaskan sesuatu mereka melebihi sifat dan persamaan. Bukannya berdasarkan kacukan darah atau keturunan gen. Kalau persamaan kelas tersebut dibuat berdasarkan gen maka memang haram kalau kita pegang Serigala.

Bila kita nak kelaskan sesuatu, kita akan ambil sesuatu yang lazim sebagai faktorial. Jadi dalam pengkelasan Serigala faktorial Angjing diguna-pakai untuk menunjukkan persamaan sifat. Tetapi masih lagi berbeza diantara anjing dan serigala. Nak mudah faham? Kalau kita bandingkan Ferrari dengan Proton, kedua-duanya berada di dalam faktorial KERETA. Memiliki ciri-ciri dan sifat yang sama KECUALI model engine, performance dsb.

Salam Semua...

Apa yang saya perhatikan disini, adalah kesilapan kita dalam menggunakan perkataan Halal dan Haram.

Seorang guru ada mengatakan bahawa Anjing , Khinzir , labi , buaya dan seumpama nya adalah Haram hukum nya kita memakan nya, tetapi tidak haram untuk kita memegang nya.

Contoh Anjing , seluruh badannya termasuk najisnya adalah Najis Berat kepada kita umat Islam, jika tersentuh wajib disamak.

Tetapi ada nas mengatakan jika kulit kita kering dan kulit anjing itu juga kering, tidak menjadi masalah.

Bagi saya bukan semua benda yang hukum nya haram itu kita harus menjauhinya, kalau begitu amatlah tidak adil ALLAH itu untuk menyusahkan Umat Muhammad dengan benda benda yang macam gitu.

Islam itu Indah, dan keindahan Islam itu termasuk dalam hukum hukum yang ditetapkan dalam Islam. Apa yang penting adalah ilmu dan kefahaman akan ilmu tersebut, jangan kita ambil "muat-turun" saja tanpa kita kaji.

Faham akan Tempat hukum Haram yang dikenakan.

Memang ada nas sekiranya tangan kita kering maka kita boleh sentuh anjing berkenaan. Tetapi saudara TJ-Ariff, kena tau yang tapak tangan manusia sentiasa berpeluh. Berpeluh = mengeluarkan cecair = tapak tangan kita tak kering. Jadi sah memang haram kita menyentuh anjing.

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indahnya ciptaan Allah...

berfikir tentang makhlukNYA lh dapat pahala kerana mendalami ilmu tentang makhlukNya.

erm.. aku xpegang pon, so aku x tkut nk samak..hehe.

aku slalu dengar ustaz2 ceramah, jgn mengada2 kn sesuatu yg mustahil atau hmpir mustahil.

contonya, ada ke kambing mengawan ngn anjing. sbb fitrah binatang, mengawan sesama jenis je.

melainkan manusia yg kacukkan depa. lgpon bnda yg Allah da halalkan, watpe nk susah2 nk cb wat jd haram.

klu salah tlg betulkan..