Betulkah Formula Minyak Anwar?

[polyfuze_4336 0]

aku ada baca benda ni...lol.....macam aku kata korang hanya lihat dari mata kasar dan melalui "catitan". Korang x pernah nak interview setiap warga emas dan orang yang makan garam lebih dari kita.

Mungkin korang makan lebih garam dari aku, tp korang hanya suka dengar dan baca kenyataan yang x pasti kandungannya.

Korang dapat emel dan baca web atau blog je korang dah terus serang satu pihak.

That's why i said, history is important in our daily life.

Sejarah mendewasakan kita.

Zaman Anwar jadi TPM adalah pada zaman Dr M. Ko taw apa anwar buat masa Dr M jadi PM??? Kalau x, xkanlah Tun M rancang untuk menangkap anwar.

Ko kene ingat, Dr. M is a brilliant Man. Not a Fool man like Anwar. Cuma sekarang ni je, semenjak dah dapat Tun, dia agak tertekan sedikit. Lagipun dia cuma desak paklah bukan menentang paklah. Ada lg x isu Tun M dengan paklah? xdekan?

Itu hanya sekadar kata2 teguran keras kepada paklah. Mungkin ko x pernah dok asrama kot, sebab tu ko fikir bila tun m sound paklah, ko ingat tun m menentang paklah.

lagi satu statement tu hanya keluar dari satu pihak. Sekarang korang dah lihat dah pun apa yang PKR perjuangkan, bukan untuk rakyat tetapi HANYA UNTUK ANWAR.

Bila minyak naik, kita dah rasa susah, bagaimana kita hendak menghadapi dugaan yang seterusnya?

Kenapa "orang putih" boleh dan kenapa kita x boleh?

Sampai bila korang nak gaji korang 700? X boleh ke kerja kuat sikit, buat kerja part time ke, OT ke? Kerja tu kan jihad, x nak masuk syurga ke?

Aku lebih rela mati berkerja dari mati berehat.

"Ada Udang di sebalik Batu."

a) I would rather discuss my points of argumentation based on facts, something that can be disputed and based on numerous research rather than having discussion (read coffee talk) with seasoned citizens as they tend to be biased as well just like you.

Based on your postings, you seems to be reading one sided blogs and statements as well without knowing the credibility and the authenticity of the reports.

c) Please enlighten us what did Anwar do during Mahathir tenure as the prime minister and please back it up with solid facts. Don't quote something from pembelamelayu or malaysia-today. Let's discuss it further.

d) Mahathir wants Abdullah to resign NOW! Read his thoughts at chedet blog. Please don't assume that Mahathir is just disagreeing with Abdullah on some trivial matters, in fact Mahathir wants his successor on several occasion to resign immediately. He even quit Umno to pressure Abdullah to resign.

e) Which 'orang putih' said they can absorb the oil price increase? Are you making this up like always?

f) Please don't be condescending, some of us here earn more than 700 ringgit and even that is not enough to cover day to day living expenses.

[kilas 0]

Biarlah polyfuze_0411, dia budak lagi kot atau anak orang kaya agaknya...Mana reti nak nilai duit....

Berbalik kepada topik, semua orang tahu kerajaan nak turunkan harga minyak ni dalam masa terdekat ni, ada tak sesapa tahu rumor berapa sen dia nak turun. Aku rasa mesti lebih dari 50 posen, sebab nak lawan formula Anwar tu....hahahahha

[Mr Ijan 0]

Harga minyak turun 15 sen

KUALA LUMPUR: Harga runcit minyak petrol RON97 dikurangkan sebanyak 15 sen kepada RM2.55 seliter manakala harga runcit diesel sebanyak 8 sen kepada RM2.50 seliter mulai esok, demikian diumumkan oleh Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi di Putrajaya hari ini.

Beliau berkata Kabinet memutuskan harga runcit petrol RON97 akan dikurangkan sebanyak 15 sen daripada RM2.70 seliter kepada RM2.55 seliter manakala harga runcit petrol RON92 akan dikurangkan sebanyak 22 sen iaitu daripada RM2.62 seliter kepada RM2.40 seliter.

Harga runcit diesel akan dikurangkan sebanyak lapan sen seliter daripada RM2.58 seliter kepada RM2.50 seliter, katanya dalam kenyataan akhbar di sini.

Harga baru bahan api itu ditentukan dengan mengambilkira harga sebenar petrol daripada 1 Ogos hingga 21 Ogos serta penetapan subsidi 30 sen seliter manakala subsidi yang ditanggung oleh kerajaan untuk diesel berdasarkan harga baru itu ialah sebanyak 50 sen setiap liter.

“Jemaah Menteri hari ini telah mengambil keputusan untuk mempercepatkan tarikh penguatkuasaan pelarasan harga petrol baru,†katanya.

Sumber : Harian Metro Online

Harga petrol turun 15 sen mulai esok

PUTRAJAYA: Harga runcit petrol RON97 dikurangkan sebanyak 15 sen kepada RM2.55 seliter manakala harga runcit diesel sebanyak 8 sen kepada RM2.50 seliter mulai esok, demikian diumumkan oleh Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi di sini, hari ini.

Sumber : Berita Harian Online

Meskipun 15 sen, tapi alhamdulillah .. ada jugak penurunan ..

Edited August 22, 2008 by Mr Ijan

[hampeh 21]

harap2 makin lama makin turun mengikut harga pasaran minyak antarabangsa . Kalau makin naik ikut pasaran antarabangsa takmau la

[fenzo 1]

Biarlah polyfuze_0411, dia budak lagi kot atau anak orang kaya agaknya...Mana reti nak nilai duit....

Berbalik kepada topik, semua orang tahu kerajaan nak turunkan harga minyak ni dalam masa terdekat ni, ada tak sesapa tahu rumor berapa sen dia nak turun. Aku rasa mesti lebih dari 50 posen, sebab nak lawan formula Anwar tu....hahahahha

mat, saya baru je jumpa si robots ni, tinggi dan berbadan besar lagi, memang budak ni anak org kaya pun, tp awak x taw tentang peribadi hidup dia. Sungguhpun umor dia 18 tahun, dia buat banyak keje, apa awak tahu selain mengutuk sesama anak bangsa sendiri? Fikirlah dahulu sebelum posting, sediakan payung sebelum hujan, jangan main tembak je. Robots keje di watson bukit tinggi jusco klang pastu belajar kat kolej wit pandamaran then dia buka kedai burger kat taman rekreasi bandar botanic dan buat bisnes internet secara sambilan. Cuba awak bandingkan diri kamu dengannya? Jauh x ketaranya? Sebab tu lah dia tak pernah merungut dan membangkang dengan kerajaan sedia ada walaupun dia duduk di rantau orang.

Memang betul lah kamu ni semua budak kecil yang baru hendak belajar berjalan. Asyik nak mengutuk orang je, cermin lah diri tu dulu.

Anak2 muda zaman skang, umor je dah matang, tp perangai macam budak hingusan, bila remaja masuk campur beri pendapat, dihina dan dikutuknya, tp jika di bandingkan, perangai orang matang ni x kira orang tua atau dewasa ni lebih teruk dari remaja.

Please be open mind ya?

P/S: Jom lepak kedai burger robots nak? Orang kampung saya tu..

a) I would rather discuss my points of argumentation based on facts, something that can be disputed and based on numerous research rather than having discussion (read coffee talk) with seasoned citizens as they tend to be biased as well just like you.

cool.gif Based on your postings, you seems to be reading one sided blogs and statements as well without knowing the credibility and the authenticity of the reports.

c) Please enlighten us what did Anwar do during Mahathir tenure as the prime minister and please back it up with solid facts. Don't quote something from pembelamelayu or malaysia-today. Let's discuss it further.

d) Mahathir wants Abdullah to resign NOW! Read his thoughts at chedet blog. Please don't assume that Mahathir is just disagreeing with Abdullah on some trivial matters, in fact Mahathir wants his successor on several occasion to resign immediately. He even quit Umno to pressure Abdullah to resign.

e) Which 'orang putih' said they can absorb the oil price increase? Are you making this up like always?

f) Please don't be condescending, some of us here earn more than 700 ringgit and even that is not enough to cover day to day living expenses.

a. Your statement is just a PKR blog statement. I have enter many blog of PKR in this whole internet, but the contain was same, they just change some word but brought to the same mean. No fact in your statement, it's just propaganda to make malaysia "complete damage" because malaysia is the 1st islamic country that have a good economy and good management.

c. Please remind back what anwar did in 10 years before. He try to "sell" our country to USA, UK and another west country. He do this because he want to be a prime minister of malaysia.

d. ha3, like robots say, you never live in hostel that have 2 until 5 warden and the group of senior. When the people like to see the negative statements, they always stand at the back. Please be positive.

e. I think you got a whole knowledge about oil because you speak like a caliber man know so much what happen to this world, but i'm absolutely wrong, you do not know about what they mean by between oil and orang putih especially USA. Try use keyword, "Black Oil Alaska" in google.

f. He try to give us some advice especially you, to work hard to make your living better. Government, money, oil, price and anything else is not our life.

dah lama x speaking BI, teraburrrrrrrr....ha3..

P/S: Hidup Di Dunia Ini, Kita Hanya Sebagai Seorang Perantauan.

Edited August 24, 2008 by fenzo

[polyfuze_4336 0]

a. Your statement is just a PKR blog statement. I have enter many blog of PKR in this whole internet, but the contain was same, they just change some word but brought to the same mean. No fact in your statement, it's just propaganda to make malaysia "complete damage" because malaysia is the 1st islamic country that have a good economy and good management.

c. Please remind back what anwar did in 10 years before. He try to "sell" our country to USA, UK and another west country. He do this because he want to be a prime minister of malaysia.

d. ha3, like robots say, you never live in hostel that have 2 until 5 warden and the group of senior. When the people like to see the negative statements, they always stand at the back. Please be positive.

e. I think you got a whole knowledge about oil because you speak like a caliber man know so much what happen to this world, but i'm absolutely wrong, you do not know about what they mean by between oil and orang putih especially USA. Try use keyword, "Black Oil Alaska" in google.

f. He try to give us some advice especially you, to work hard to make your living better. Government, money, oil, price and anything else is not our life.

dah lama x speaking BI, teraburrrrrrrr....ha3..

P/S: Hidup Di Dunia Ini, Kita Hanya Sebagai Perantauan.

a. I did not quote the facts in regards to oil prices or the state of Malaysia economy from PKR blogs or any site affiliated to PKR website. I quote them from internationally known sources. Most of the analysis was quoted from Bloomberg, Transparency International, reuters, forbes, business week and wall street journal. Maybe, just maybe if you spend more time reading from sources other than utusan,bharian or malaysiakini, you will understand better. If you feel that my facts is just a propaganda, why don't you refute it with facts that was taken from credible sources?

b. What do you mean when you said Anwar want to sell Malaysia? Again, you're only repeating what you read in newspaper owned by the state. You're not challenging the statement but merely repeating it again and again. Challenging status quo and statement require some research and intelligence.

c. i lived in hostel before and what are you trying to say? What I'm trying to say is simple. Mahathir wants Abdullah to resign. Just read his comments in his blogs and what's the positive things he said about Abdullah administration so far?

d. I was asking asking robots, when he said 'Kenapa "orang putih" boleh dan kenapa kita x boleh?'. To whom exactly he was referring to when he said orang putih and what did he mean by that? I did googled about Black Gold Alaska and if you don't mind, what are you trying to say?

I think you're trying to ask me to goggle about Black Gold not Black oil, am i right?

e. Good advice. Point taken.

[fenzo 1]

a. I did not quote the facts in regards to oil prices or the state of Malaysia economy from PKR blogs or any site affiliated to PKR website. I quote them from internationally known sources. Most of the analysis was quoted from Bloomberg, Transparency International, reuters, forbes, business week and wall street journal. Maybe, just maybe if you spend more time reading from sources other than utusan,bharian or malaysiakini, you will understand better. If you feel that my facts is just a propaganda, why don't you refute it with facts that was taken from credible sources?

b. What do you mean when you said Anwar want to sell Malaysia? Again, you're only repeating what you read in newspaper owned by the state. You're not challenging the statement but merely repeating it again and again. Challenging status quo and statement require some research and intelligence.

c. i lived in hostel before and what are you trying to say? What I'm trying to say is simple. Mahathir wants Abdullah to resign. Just read his comments in his blogs and what's the positive things he said about Abdullah administration so far?

d. I was asking asking robots, when he said 'Kenapa "orang putih" boleh dan kenapa kita x boleh?'. To whom exactly he was referring to when he said orang putih and what did he mean by that? I did googled about Black Gold Alaska and if you don't mind, what are you trying to say?

I think you're trying to ask me to goggle about Black Gold not Black oil, am i right?

e. Good advice. Point taken.

a. That's why i've said your statement is just a propaganda and blog which mean internet propaganda.

Bloomberg, Transparency International, reuters, forbes, business week and wall street journal is from? Do you know why hitler kill all yahudi's and try to destroy a big force of west? they are liar's. Try to remind back about nazi history.

You think all of this source is international? Why do you think so? Please be more open.

I'll give some example to you,

WWF, WWE and another wrestling show is ONLY ACTING to attract the world audience. That's why they can be too popular and INTERNATIONAL.

Are you never think, that movie from west is only FANTASY ideas that came from creative director?

What i've try to say is western people like to "give" more about propaganda@fantasy to all muslim and asian people. That's why i do not trust any "INTERNATIONAL" source. You must look into your eyes by yourself. Not to trust any statement that from side to side.

b. The proof was known by all malaysian and also the world.

c. . Oklah, saya terangkan, kalau kita kena ragging, apa yg selalu kita fikirkan ye? Penderaan? Sekarang ni, kena tampar je dah buat report polis, kena buat larian satu padang je dah mula anti dengan orang yg ragging kita tu. Tapi pernah tak anda fikir kenapa para per- ragging ni ragging kita?

d. This just my rumors, maybe robots try to tell us to work hard for get a living better. "Orang Putih" sanggup menerima risiko bagai telur dihujung tanduk dengan mencipta sesuatu benda yang menakjubkan. Adakah kita sanggup mengambil risiko bagai telur dihujung tanduk contohnya mencipta bom yang berkuasa tinggi?

That's is our life and our problem, we did not try to accept the risk to make our life is better and higher than "orang putih".

Kita ni lebih suka meminta-minta bantuan dari mana-mana pihak especially kerajaan dari berusaha sendiri dan bekerja keras. That's why i say "MELAYU MANJA".

Try make a friend with american then try to discuss with them about black oil in alaska, AMERICA. I try to searc in google, but did not find it.

Biasalah google pun dari US juga.

e. Thanks for accept the advice.

[polyfuze_4336 0]

a. That's why i've said your statement is just a propaganda and blog which mean internet propaganda.

Bloomberg, Transparency International, reuters, forbes, business week and wall street journal is from? Do you know why hitler kill all yahudi's and try to destroy a big force of west? they are liar's. Try to remind back about nazi history.

You think all of this source is international? Why do you think so? Please be more open.

I'll give some example to you,

WWF, WWE and another wrestling show is ONLY ACTING to attract the world audience. That's why they can be too popular and INTERNATIONAL.

Are you never think, that movie from west is only FANTASY ideas that came from creative director?

What i've try to say is western people like to "give" more about propaganda@fantasy to all muslim and asian people. That's why i do not trust any "INTERNATIONAL" source. You must look into your eyes by yourself. Not to trust any statement that from side to side.

b. The proof was known by all malaysian and also the world.

c. . Oklah, saya terangkan, kalau kita kena ragging, apa yg selalu kita fikirkan ye? Penderaan? Sekarang ni, kena tampar je dah buat report polis, kena buat larian satu padang je dah mula anti dengan orang yg ragging kita tu. Tapi pernah tak anda fikir kenapa para per- ragging ni ragging kita?

d. This just my rumors, maybe robots try to tell us to work hard for get a living better. "Orang Putih" sanggup menerima risiko bagai telur dihujung tanduk dengan mencipta sesuatu benda yang menakjubkan. Adakah kita sanggup mengambil risiko bagai telur dihujung tanduk contohnya mencipta bom yang berkuasa tinggi?

That's is our life and our problem, we did not try to accept the risk to make our life is better and higher than "orang putih".

Kita ni lebih suka meminta-minta bantuan dari mana-mana pihak especially kerajaan dari berusaha sendiri dan bekerja keras. That's why i say "MELAYU MANJA".

Try make a friend with american then try to discuss with them about black oil in alaska, AMERICA. I try to searc in google, but did not find it.

Biasalah google pun dari US juga.

e. Thanks for accept the advice.

a. So am i supposed to trust all the news from utusan and bharian? What makes you think what you read in the newspaper is not propaganda? What makes you think what you read in newspaper is the truth? Have you tried to verify the news against independent sources? You're accusing other people of reading and spreading propaganda but you're not even aware that what you're reading from daily newspaper is indeed propaganda. You're a fanatic same like people who supported PR blindly, you're no better than them. You do not challenge the truth behind every statement. What i'm reading is from international sources, some of it may be biased, but some of it paint the truth about the whole malaysia economic condition. Inflation rose to record high and the OPR is artificially set lower without reflecting to real inflation and interest rate. FDI is going out of Malaysia to Singapore. This is real fact not propaganda.

Bloomberg and the rest are founded by jews,make no mistake about that. The question is why do believe them when they say something positive about the present government and dismiss them when they said something negative?

I'm urging you to be more open and read news from side of the fence.

b. The proof is known to all Malaysian. What proof are you talking about? Anything solid from reliable sources that you can reveal and be discussed here? Why don't you google Jack Abramoff and read what is the connection between Jack who is a Jew and the Malaysian Government? I'm guessing you're going to dismiss it as propaganda too.

c. Are you trying to say Mahathir is only ragging Abdullah to make him a better leader? Obviously you never read his comment and opinion. What Mahathir says is not mere rhetoric. He simply says in simple word - Abdullah is incompetent and should resign - . There's not even close to ragging.

d. Did you even read my previous post and robot previous post? I'm saying about higher fuel prices and asking about which orang putih is ok with the high oil price? from which country? Is that the majority or minority sentiment? Yes, i do agree that Malaysian should work harder, but shouldn't the government be more transparent and efficient with our money?

Shouldn't the ministers who gave out advice to the Malaysian to change your lifestyle do the same?Shouldn't they engage it corruption and malpractice?

e. I'm advising both of you to read more and don't be to naive.

[digitaltech 0]

Pendpat aku lah........tanpa formula anwar pun........harga minyak leh turun.........aku tpkir yg kat M'sia nih byk sgt cukai.......(esp Tol...yg byk dak Semenanjung complaint)........di mana hala tuju duit tu sumer??? Di mana lesap nyer?? Kjaan byk mengenakan cukai dari segala lapisan masyarakat........dan cukai jarang berubah2 nilai.....di mana lesap nyer duit tue.........

Itu sebab kenapa byk skang dah terbuka minda......ingin mencari alternatif........ingin merasa perubahan......sampai bila Msia akan tahan dgn tampuk pimpinan BN dak kroni2.......sampai bila........tengok jer news2 mainstream di Msia nih.......lansung tak mendidik.......bila kancah politik Msia meletup, tu lah menjadi topik utama news(TV,RAdio,Newspaper).......mcm mana nak maju kalo hari2 asyik propaganda.......tapi kepentingan ilimiah tak dijaga dahulu!!

[fenzo 1]

a. So am i supposed to trust all the news from utusan and bharian? What makes you think what you read in the newspaper is not propaganda? What makes you think what you read in newspaper is the truth? Have you tried to verify the news against independent sources? You're accusing other people of reading and spreading propaganda but you're not even aware that what you're reading from daily newspaper is indeed propaganda. You're a fanatic same like people who supported PR blindly, you're no better than them. You do not challenge the truth behind every statement. What i'm reading is from international sources, some of it may be biased, but some of it paint the truth about the whole malaysia economic condition. Inflation rose to record high and the OPR is artificially set lower without reflecting to real inflation and interest rate. FDI is going out of Malaysia to Singapore. This is real fact not propaganda.

Bloomberg and the rest are founded by jews,make no mistake about that. The question is why do believe them when they say something positive about the present government and dismiss them when they said something negative?

I'm urging you to be more open and read news from side of the fence.

b. The proof is known to all Malaysian. What proof are you talking about? Anything solid from reliable sources that you can reveal and be discussed here? Why don't you google Jack Abramoff and read what is the connection between Jack who is a Jew and the Malaysian Government? I'm guessing you're going to dismiss it as propaganda too.

c. Are you trying to say Mahathir is only ragging Abdullah to make him a better leader? Obviously you never read his comment and opinion. What Mahathir says is not mere rhetoric. He simply says in simple word - Abdullah is incompetent and should resign - . There's not even close to ragging.

d. Did you even read my previous post and robot previous post? I'm saying about higher fuel prices and asking about which orang putih is ok with the high oil price? from which country? Is that the majority or minority sentiment? Yes, i do agree that Malaysian should work harder, but shouldn't the government be more transparent and efficient with our money?

Shouldn't the ministers who gave out advice to the Malaysian to change your lifestyle do the same?Shouldn't they engage it corruption and malpractice?

e. I'm advising both of you to read more and don't be to naive.

a. i did'nt push you to to trust utusan or harian? just you say like that, not me. Have i said, i read newspaper or watching tv? did i said it?

b. google is from?

c. Yup, that's my point, Mahathir was only ragging abdullah to be a better leader. When abdullah was pushed by mahathir, he will be more competitive.

d. What robots say is the truth, i've believe him. OUR MONEY? oh no, it's a big mistake, sorry to say, no OUR MONEY but GOVERNMENT MONEY. They give us good service and we pay for it.

e. Naive? Reading blog or statement from you can't make me change to fight government. I would like to reading history than blog like what robot's say.

SEJARAH MENDEWASAKAN KITA.

Pendpat aku lah........tanpa formula anwar pun........harga minyak leh turun.........aku tpkir yg kat M'sia nih byk sgt cukai.......(esp Tol...yg byk dak Semenanjung complaint)........di mana hala tuju duit tu sumer??? Di mana lesap nyer?? Kjaan byk mengenakan cukai dari segala lapisan masyarakat........dan cukai jarang berubah2 nilai.....di mana lesap nyer duit tue.........

Itu sebab kenapa byk skang dah terbuka minda......ingin mencari alternatif........ingin merasa perubahan......sampai bila Msia akan tahan dgn tampuk pimpinan BN dak kroni2.......sampai bila........tengok jer news2 mainstream di Msia nih.......lansung tak mendidik.......bila kancah politik Msia meletup, tu lah menjadi topik utama news(TV,RAdio,Newspaper).......mcm mana nak maju kalo hari2 asyik propaganda.......tapi kepentingan ilimiah tak dijaga dahulu!!

macam yang saya kata, kamu kena kaji dimana hilangnya duit yang anda fikir duit itu DUIT RAKYAT.

They provide the service and we pay for it.

[aba 0]

lor.. klu bangkang apa yg nuar ckp, bia jela. xyah sibuk2 rungut psl harga petrol. byr je sudeh. xyah kecoh2. xyah merungut2. sng cite. duit sendiri2.

sibuk ckp psl duit rakyat.. yakin kerajaan x gelapkn duit rakyat?? 100% xde penyelewengan?? pasti??

[polyfuze_4336 0]

a. i did'nt push you to to trust utusan or harian? just you say like that, not me. Have i said, i read newspaper or watching tv? did i said it?

b. google is from?

c. Yup, that's my point, Mahathir was only ragging abdullah to be a better leader. When abdullah was pushed by mahathir, he will be more competitive.

d. What robots say is the truth, i've believe him. OUR MONEY? oh no, it's a big mistake, sorry to say, no OUR MONEY but GOVERNMENT MONEY. They give us good service and we pay for it.

e. Naive? Reading blog or statement from you can't make me change to fight government. I would like to reading history than blog like what robot's say.

SEJARAH MENDEWASAKAN KITA.

macam yang saya kata, kamu kena kaji dimana hilangnya duit yang anda fikir duit itu DUIT RAKYAT.

a) if i can't read bloomberg or sources from the internet because it is from American Jews, so which newspaper or articles should i read from? Which one in your opinion is the most appropriate and does not contain any propaganda? Which news agency is neutral? Can you actually name one?

Fine, if you don't want to google it, try researching Jack Abramoff from your most reliable sources. It's a pity that you said something like that but you continue using your computer as both were made and produced by the people of the same race and ideology.

c) Why don't you just drop Mahathir an email or ask him a question in his blog? Just ask him, do you want Abdullah to resign or do you want Abdullah to be more competitive? It's easier that way than assuming he just want Abdullah to be a better leader.

d) Where does the government money came from? Taxes? Oil related revenue and royalties? Timber? Who actually own these commodities? The government or malaysian citizens? After all these years, you still can't establish who own Malaysia? We own this country, the money that they spent is our money. The money that they spent was taken from Malaysia vast natural resources. These natural resources is not owned by the government or any individuals, it belongs to all of us. When we voted for them, we actually put them in charge to manage our money efficiently. We entrusted them to invest our money prudently and wisely. We believe they will take good care of our money. So you dare to say when they wasted billions of ringgit, they are not wasting our money? Where's your common sense?

e) I'm not asking you to start turning against the government. If you want to support the present government, that's fine by me. Your loyalty is commendable but naive. Just make sure you conduct some research and do not trust anything you read without doing your due diligence. Do not follow or support anyone blindly without direction. This goes to both side of the fence, BN and PR supporter.

[fenzo 1]

a) if i can't read bloomberg or sources from the internet because it is from American Jews, so which newspaper or articles should i read from? Which one in your opinion is the most appropriate and does not contain any propaganda? Which news agency is neutral? Can you actually name one?

cool.gif Fine, if you don't want to google it, try researching Jack Abramoff from your most reliable sources. It's a pity that you said something like that but you continue using your computer as both were made and produced by the people of the same race and ideology.

c) Why don't you just drop Mahathir an email or ask him a question in his blog? Just ask him, do you want Abdullah to resign or do you want Abdullah to be more competitive? It's easier that way than assuming he just want Abdullah to be a better leader.

d) Where does the government money came from? Taxes? Oil related revenue and royalties? Timber? Who actually own these commodities? The government or malaysian citizens? After all these years, you still can't establish who own Malaysia? We own this country, the money that they spent is our money. The money that they spent was taken from Malaysia vast natural resources. These natural resources is not owned by the government or any individuals, it belongs to all of us. When we voted for them, we actually put them in charge to manage our money efficiently. We entrusted them to invest our money prudently and wisely. We believe they will take good care of our money. So you dare to say when they wasted billions of ringgit, they are not wasting our money? Where's your common sense?

e) I'm not asking you to start turning against the government. If you want to support the present government, that's fine by me. Your loyalty is commendable but naive. Just make sure you conduct some research and do not trust anything you read without doing your due diligence. Do not follow or support anyone blindly without direction. This goes to both side of the fence, BN and PR supporter.

a. I will not give any link in any topic because i know if i give the people will say it just a propaganda source. That's why i say look it by yourself, do not trust any statement or blog essay. Think it back.

if you wanna get 99% true source, try to be "tourism".

c. My question is, r u believe the source that came from with email or blog, r u know who send it and write? Please be positivelah, r u sure mahathir was write an article in "his blog" and r u sure anwar was write "his article" in his website or blog? Do you see him write it infront his computer or laptop?

d. Aiyoo...government and malaysia citizens is the same mean lah...aiyoyo..Who work in government? Peoplelah, malaysian citizen.

This my question and some my research,

Government was malaysian citizens.

Malaysian Citizens was Government.

Why all people that pro government must say, government ate "DUIT RAKYAT"?

Whose RAKYAT and whose government?

aiyooo...i don't know, why Malaysian citizens like to say "DUIT RAKYAT"?

Where government spent " Your MONEY"?

Do you think?

e. For me, BN and PR supporter is just a "NEGATIVE" word. It's better if, we called it malaysian.

Sebab itulah, kamu berasa kamu patut membantah kerajaan, kerana otak kamu telah ditanamkan sentimen2 barat.

[rasberry 0]

ape yg ko mengarut ni fenzo?

[langkasuka 0]

harga minyak boleh diturunkan sebanyak RM0.15 utk memancing undi di P44

formula anwar betul!sbb kerajaan memang boleh turunkan harga minyak

[hampeh 21]

aiseh topik lain kene lock , nak sambung reply kat mana ?

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haha tu la perbezaan pandangan antara orang bumi dan non-bumi tengok anwar tu menang camne . bumi fikir nak hapuskan rasuah dan upkn ekonomi , yang non-bumi fikir hak dorang .

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kerajaan memang boleh turun minyak pasal harga minyak antarabangsa turun tak semestinya formula anwar sorang je kata minyak boleh diturunkan harga .

[spoket 0]

aiseh topik lain kene lock , nak sambung reply kat mana ?

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haha tu la perbezaan pandangan antara orang bumi dan non-bumi tengok anwar tu menang camne . bumi fikir nak hapuskan rasuah dan upkn ekonomi , yang non-bumi fikir hak dorang .

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kerajaan memang boleh turun minyak pasal harga minyak antarabangsa turun tak semestinya formula anwar sorang je kata minyak boleh diturunkan harga .

Tp formula DSAI boleh turunkan sehingga 70sen.. itu janji beliau.

[slymer 0]

Off topic sat,

Seperti korang sedia maklum DSAI menang di permatang pauh. Aku cuma fikirkan 1 je. Walaupn aku xde di permatang pauh, kalu kita perhatikan dr berita2 di TV... surat khabar. Smua berita hanya tentang BN .. xsampai dr 5% pn pasal parti pembangkang.. Aku percaya kalu aku dok tgk tv je. Pasti akan aku sokong BN. Apa yg aku nak tekan kan sini, apa2 berita dr tv mahu pn surat khabar skit pn tidak menjejaskan undi di permatang pauh. Apa sbnarnya pemikiran yg bermain di penduduk permatang pauh.. ? Jika di kata kan ada sumber2 dr luar spt blog dan sbgnya yg aku pasti hanya muda mudi yg arif mengenai blog atau internet. Tetapi kalu kita tgk undian hampir 2/3 menang DSAI. Walaupn pelik jika di lihat dr sudut yg berbza tp hakikatnya mmg DSAI telah pn menang. Adakah di permatang pauh tiada siaran TV atau surat khabar spt utusan bharian di jual di sana ..? seolah2 apa yg di berita kan di tv dan apa yg di berita kan di surat khabar sedikit pn tidak mempengaruhi undian di sana. Apa2 pn aku ucapkan tahniah pd DSAI. Semoga dpt melakukan satu anjakan paradigma dari segi jasmani, rohani dan juga pembangunan utk malaysia.

[scorps 1]

Off topic sat,

Seperti korang sedia maklum DSAI menang di permatang pauh. Aku cuma fikirkan 1 je. Walaupn aku xde di permatang pauh, kalu kita perhatikan dr berita2 di TV... surat khabar. Smua berita hanya tentang BN .. xsampai dr 5% pn pasal parti pembangkang.. Aku percaya kalu aku dok tgk tv je. Pasti akan aku sokong BN. Apa yg aku nak tekan kan sini, apa2 berita dr tv mahu pn surat khabar skit pn tidak menjejaskan undi di permatang pauh. Apa sbnarnya pemikiran yg bermain di penduduk permatang pauh.. ? Jika di kata kan ada sumber2 dr luar spt blog dan sbgnya yg aku pasti hanya muda mudi yg arif mengenai blog atau internet. Tetapi kalu kita tgk undian hampir 2/3 menang DSAI. Walaupn pelik jika di lihat dr sudut yg berbza tp hakikatnya mmg DSAI telah pn menang. Adakah di permatang pauh tiada siaran TV atau surat khabar spt utusan bharian di jual di sana ..? seolah2 apa yg di berita kan di tv dan apa yg di berita kan di surat khabar sedikit pn tidak mempengaruhi undian di sana. Apa2 pn aku ucapkan tahniah pd DSAI. Semoga dpt melakukan satu anjakan paradigma dari segi jasmani, rohani dan juga pembangunan utk malaysia.

tak yah laa nak off topik,

[memito 0]

betul formula anwar ni...dia pernah jd menteri kewangan...dan pernah dianugerahkan antara 4 menteri kewangan terbaik di dunia...

[nilasetitik 0]

aku percaya formula kadar penurunan harga minyak bukan lah semudah formula yg kita semua dok bahaskan ni . Aku yakin misti ada beberapa faktor lain yang akan diambil kira. Faktor 'lain' tu aku tak tau ...cuma logiknya mmg ada faktor sampingan .

Ada jugak yg aku baca sebut pasal penyelewengan .. Mungkin ye mungkin tak der.. sebab kita tak tau sebenarnya.. kita hanya andaikan saja. Tapi kalau ada sesiapa yang tau pasal penyelewengan sumber bumi kita ni , kena la buat laporan .. buat sidang akhbar ke .. kalau tak jalan kat malaysia .. pi report kat UN ke aljazeera ke CNN ke .. biar malu sket kepimpinan sekarang ni. Tapi kalau duk ikut je apa orang cakap .. tak smart la hehehehe.. kita kene ada asas dan bukti dan BERTINDAK. Macam PErmatang PAuh.. rakyat telah bertindak dgn cara yg adil.

Jadik kalau nak tau betul ke tidak formula asas tu .. kita tunggu la kalau bang nuar jadi PM. Itupun kalau PAS bagilah ... hehehe

TAKBIR !!

[rasberry 0]

Tak payah tau formula tu sebab formula tu dah digunakan oleh kerajaan.

Dan tkyah sibok-sibok nak tau sapa yg akan jadi PM nanti. Lagi ko sibok , lagi la ko tak sedar kain sendiri dok terlondeh. ekekeke

[nilasetitik 0]

Tak payah tau formula tu sebab formula tu dah digunakan oleh kerajaan.

Dan tkyah sibok-sibok nak tau sapa yg akan jadi PM nanti. Lagi ko sibok , lagi la ko tak sedar kain sendiri dok terlondeh. ekekeke

tu bukan sibok itu ayat penyata .. bukan penyebok tapi kan nama nya ni forum, kalau orang bagi pandangan kene pikirla betul ke idak kalau salah bagi betul lah , tapi kalau betul kenapa tak nak terima.

bukan pasal kain saper telondeh tapi takut sahabat tak sedar dalam duk kata kain orang dah telondeh , tapi sahabat sendiri tak pakai apa-apa hehehehe " telanjang"

[fenzo 1]

ape yg ko mengarut ni fenzo?

Budak ni mesti x baca komen2 dan pendapat dari awal lagi...x tahu tajuk rupenye...ish3...

harga minyak boleh diturunkan sebanyak RM0.15 utk memancing undi di P44

formula anwar betul!sbb kerajaan memang boleh turunkan harga minyak

Pasti ke Anwar mempunyai formula minyak? Pasti ke formula yang dikata kata kan anwar tu beliau sendiri yang menciptanya?

Siapa yang kawal harga minyak dunia? Siapa rakan baik yang mengawal harga minyak dunia?

"Kawan Baik Susah Dicari"

betul formula anwar ni...dia pernah jd menteri kewangan...dan pernah dianugerahkan antara 4 menteri kewangan terbaik di dunia..

maaflah yer bang, bukan dunia tapi US only.

Polyfuze where r u now?

[polyfuze_4336 0]

a. I will not give any link in any topic because i know if i give the people will say it just a propaganda source. That's why i say look it by yourself, do not trust any statement or blog essay. Think it back.

if you wanna get 99% true source, try to be "tourism".

c. My question is, r u believe the source that came from with email or blog, r u know who send it and write? Please be positivelah, r u sure mahathir was write an article in "his blog" and r u sure anwar was write "his article" in his website or blog? Do you see him write it infront his computer or laptop?

d. Aiyoo...government and malaysia citizens is the same mean lah...aiyoyo..Who work in government? Peoplelah, malaysian citizen.

This my question and some my research,

Government was malaysian citizens.

Malaysian Citizens was Government.

Why all people that pro government must say, government ate "DUIT RAKYAT"?

Whose RAKYAT and whose government?

aiyooo...i don't know, why Malaysian citizens like to say "DUIT RAKYAT"?

Where government spent " Your MONEY"?

Do you think?

e. For me, BN and PR supporter is just a "NEGATIVE" word. It's better if, we called it malaysian.

Sebab itulah, kamu berasa kamu patut membantah kerajaan, kerana otak kamu telah ditanamkan sentimen2 barat.

Fenzo,

Please take this positively, please do not reply to my posts in English anymore, you run the risks of sounding like an ignorant if you kept replying to me in English. I'm sure you have valid points and arguments that can be discussed further by all of us but by replying in English your points is not understandable and comprehensible. Just reply to me in BM so that i can understand your posts better.

a) So basically you're not giving your source of information because you're not confident that your source is propaganda free? If you're very sure then you don't have to feel insecure about your sources of information.

What the heck be tourism means?Please enlighten me.I'm not even sure if that a valid sentence

c) Fenzo, people knew who wrote www.chedet.com. It's a well known fact. Now you're trying to refute my points by saying it's not Mahathir that's writing that blog? Mahathir during his press statement acknowledge that he's writing that blog,so what are you trying to say now?Maybe you can read below for his latest comments about Abdullah and see how you're going to refute this.

10. Kamu boleh terus sokong Dato Seri Abdullah sebagai Presiden parti. Tetapi rakyat tidak akan sokong UMNO kerana UMNO sudah jadi alat Dato Seri Abdullah dan keluarganya. Apabila datang pilihanraya ketiga belas rakyat akan jatuhkan UMNO dan Barisan Nasional kerana hanya dengan cara ini sahaja rakyat akan dapat jatuhkan Dato Seri Abdullah.

12. Untuk pulihkan sokongan kepada UMNO dan Barisan Nasional, Dato Seri Abdullah perlu bertanggungjawab dan letak jawatan sekarang. Ini akan memberi masa empat tahun bagi pemimpin-pemimpin UMNO berusaha untuk menarik balik penyokong UMNO dan Barisan Nasional. Jika ditunggu hingga Jun 2010 masa yang tinggal untuk pemulihan hanyalah 2 tahun; terlalu pendek untuk kerja yang berat ini.

13. Pilihan bagi UMNO hanya dua. Setia kepada Dato Seri Abdullah dan kalah dalam Pilihanraya Umum ke 13 atau setia kepada UMNO lebih daripada setia kepada Dato Seri Abdullah dengan kemungkinan menang Pilihanraya Umum ke-13.

15. Saya percaya akhbar dan TV arus perdana akan putar cerita pilihanraya kecil Permatang Pauh untuk menyedapkan hati pemimpin UMNO dan Dato Seri Abdullah. Justeru itu pemimpin, terutama Dato Seri Abdullah akan yakin yang dianya dikehendaki untuk pulih semula parti. Dan UMNO pun akan terus pilihnya dengan sebulat suara pada bulan Disember. Dan akan merosot lagilah UMNO dan Barisan Nasional.

17. Kelebihan undi bagi Dato Seri Anwar berbanding Mac 2008 tentulah kerana dalam jangka hanya lima bulan sokongan kepada BN dan UMNO merosot lagi.

18. Nak tunggu sampai bila wahai ahli UMNO, sebelum kamu sedar akan perlunya kepimpinan Dato Seri Abdullah ditamatkan?

For full posting you can access his website directly.

d) I don't understand what you're tying to say. You're running in circles

e) Kebanyakkan umat tidak membantah perilaku segelintir perilaku menteri atau tindakan kerajaan kerana terpengaruh dengan sentimen barat. Umat islam membantah perilaku mereka bersesuaian dengan hadith rasullulah yang memerintahkan umatnya supaya menyatakan kebenaran Islam sebagaimana dapat difahami daripada sabda Rasulullah SAW yang bermaksud: “Sesiapa ada melihat kemungkaran di hadapan kamu maka hendaklah kamu mengubah dan mencegahnya dengan tangan kamu (dengan kuasa yang ada pada kamu), jika kamu tidak mampu (dengan tangan kamu) maka hendaklah kamu ubah dengan lidah. Jika kamu masih lagi tidak mampu, maka hendaklah kamu ubah dengan hati. Itu adalah selemah iman.†(Hadis riwayat Muslim, Tirmizi dan Ibnu Majah)

Kisah pidato perdana Saidina Abu Bakar al-Siddiq masih segar dalam lipatan sejarah sebaik saja beliau diangkat sebagai khalifah pertama dengan berkata: “Wahai manusia! Aku telah dipilih untuk memimpin kamu padahal aku bukanlah orang yang paling baik daripada kalangan kamu. Jika aku melakukan perkara yang betul maka hendaklah kamu semua membantuku dan jika aku melakukan penyelewengan maka hendaklah kamu memperbetulkan aku.â€Â

Dapat disimpulkan, Saidina Abu Bakar menyedari memberikan rakyat jelata hak bersuara untuk memberikan pandangan dan kritikan kepada kepemimpinan beliau. Walaupun tempoh kepemimpinan Abu Bakar agak singkat, namun zaman beliau berjaya meneruskan kesinambungan era kecemerlangan Islam yang diasaskan Rasulullah SAW.

Credit to nurjeehan.