HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 aku sbnrnye nk dptkn KESAHIHAN tntg topik nih drpd korg sume..aku pown x brape sure sgt...aku juz tau pown sbb penah trbce kt mne2 nth....aku da x igt...aku pown da naik pening time tau nih…sbb x ke da mmbuang mase student2 yg amik dip?? lg1, aku bce kt situ die kte die kuarkn bdk dip tok keje (yg ats alasn Pra Profesional~) sbb nk bg laluan dak2 m3k ngn stpm!!!....pasal lak??aku kt sni pown brtmbh pening+pelik so..pade sesape yg ade maklumat tu, respon2 la yer.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 camni.utk smbung degree, tempat utk degree bnyak ditawarkan kepada budak matric dan stpm. diploma sket je ruang die.tp, kalo ko skor diploma, at least 3.5pointer, ad harapan nk smbung degree. kalo x, ko kene keje dulu dlm setaun-dua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpongeBob NoPants 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 oh..cam2....nasib baik aku amik fet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 lorh...mne bley dorg wat camni...ape motifnye??x bgs tol lah...kesian wo kt dak2 dip!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zex 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 Bagi aku amik dip ni x buang mase coz aku amik dip dulu baru degree..aku suka dip ni coz bnyk kelebihan die..1- kebanyakan company amik budak dip utk mengurangkan kos company n slalunye budak dip lebih advanced dan lebih bagus dr budak degree coz die blaja detail n die tau die kurang, die slalu blaja n tingkatkan produktiviti n ilmu dier...2- Kalu org yg diploma, walaupun ade degree. leh mintak keje lagi guna sijil dip utk minimun requirement, tapi orang yang degree.. xkan nak guna spm utk minimun requirement..huhu..3 - OT, dip leh wat. Kalau degree, terumatamnya yang jd engineer..harapkan basic sajer ade..huhuhu.. Terkejut aku dengar technician TNB, Gaji + OT die melebihi gaji seorang engineer kat tnb..huhu...Kesimpulan..X ruginye ko amik dip........... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 kalo diploma.ko dh lebih prepare utk smbung degree, sbb ko dh ade basic knowledge. org ckp, student diploma yg smbung degree sumer perform. tp, ad gak student drpd matric atau stpm yg bley kalahkan diploma.sbnarnya, xkira la drpd mana2. asal ada usaha, semua bley jalan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpongeBob NoPants 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 usaha & minat....cam aku nie amik foundationsem1 & sem2 study basicsem3 depends pada korunk maner nak pegi ,mase niey r ko wat pilihan pas2 diorang anta gi branch maner korunk minat dlm masa tu ..terdedah kepada ape yg budak diploma 3 tahun tu belajar...pas2 masuk r degree..4 tahun blaja bende samediploma ______ko decide nak amik diploma tu...jadi dah setahun lebih ar korunk blaja..pastu dengar2 cite/korunk rase muak korunk tukar amik course len plak...kalau boleh cepat catch-up xpe gak ar....niey yg xleh catch-up...jap agi nak masuk degree...degree benda yg same gak....klau minat yg mendalam.ok ar....kene tahan dip 3 tahun + degree 4 tahun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 ZEX..Mmg arr amik dip dlu bru degree… >Ape mksod ko yg dak dip lebih bgs dr degree?..bkn ke bdk2 degree lebih byk pengetauan mreka dr dip sbb da lanjut ke peringkat degree plakk….>Erk..mmg arr sijil dip leh gune tok ply keje…tp apsal lak ko kte bdk degree nk kene gune sijil spm lakk..?? da ofcource arr dak degree akn gune sijil degree dorg kn..sbb sume org tau yg degree lebih tinggi tarafnyer dr dip…Zex, sound ko cam dip is better than degree arr…aku rse ko mesti ade sbb trsndri…aku nih bknnye tau sgt bende2 nih...huhu..ade sesape yg ade tau menahu x?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 ZEX..Mmg arr amik dip dlu bru degree… >Ape mksod ko yg dak dip lebih bgs dr degree?..bkn ke bdk2 degree lebih byk pengetauan mreka dr dip sbb da lanjut ke peringkat degree plakk….>Erk..mmg arr sijil dip leh gune tok ply keje…tp apsal lak ko kte bdk degree nk kene gune sijil spm lakk..?? da ofcource arr dak degree akn gune sijil degree dorg kn..sbb sume org tau yg degree lebih tinggi tarafnyer dr dip…Zex, sound ko cam dip is better than degree arr…aku rse ko mesti ade sbb trsndri…aku nih bknnye tau sgt bende2 nih...huhu..ade sesape yg ade tau menahu x??ko salah faham nih.stkat nih, ad dua cara utk ke degree.first route, diploma ke degree.2nd route, asasi(pre-u/matric/stpm/a-level) ke degree.yg Zex maksudkan tuh, budak yg dh ade diploma, lepas tu ke degree, dorang lagi selamat. sebab dorang ade dua sijil. diploma dan degree.kalo asasi ke degree, dorang nih kurang sket. sebab dorang cuma ad sijil degree.macam diploma, die latih utk ko pandai bwat kerja. sebab, diploma ni lebih banyak hands-on.degree plak utk ko keje bidang profesional.diploma + degree = pandai bwat keje + kebolehan dlm bhgian lbey tggi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 owh...aku wat silap arr nih...sorry2 pd ZEX!!aku kn x brape nk tau..anyhw, thanks arr...tp apsal byk yg hands on pd sijil dip?destroyer, ko kte sape sijil degree profesional kn..so, asal x amik dak degree lebih??stakat dak dip..dorg kn juz pra profesional jew... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Navigator® 6 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 camnih la, bagi aku plak , dua2 sama je dip ke ijazah ke , janji ko pandai cari keje , sume tuh atas rezeki ko . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 camni.tujuan diploma, die bukan nk lahirkan consultant, project manager.diploma ni, die lahirkan pekerja cam technician, assistant.kalau degree, ko keje jd consultant, senior engineer, project manager. camtu r.tapi, kalo ad diploma + degree, employer pandang lbey r.sbb, bile ade sijil diploma, itu kire menunjukkan kebolehan ko utk buat kerja.normally, org yg ade diploma dan degree, dorang buat kerja lbey cepat dan lbey baik daripada yg ade degree sahaja.tp, ade jugak yg ade degree tp lagi bagus drpd yg ade diploma+degree.pendek kata. kat diri sendiri jugak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 owh bru aku phm kini..thanks arr destroyer ats xplaination ko yg berjele tuh...yeah..that's true lor..papepown sumenyer terletak pd individu tuh...rezeki lakk ade dimane2..aku nih pandai tulis jew...hehe.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zex 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 xpe2.. ur welcome.. aa..maksud aku sama cam en.destroyer gtaulah tu..bukannya maksud aku, degree lebih bagus dari diploma, atau degree sama taraf ngan diploma..cume selalunye diploma dilebihkan teknikal skit drpd degree..yang bagusnya kalu ade dua2... maksudnye kalau ko tak cukup syarat utk keje gune degree, leh gune diploma dulu.. bile ader pengalaman lebih skit, setahun 2, senang2 je dpt keje tahap degree, cam engineer ke atau projek manager ke?Perpun suma atas kite, x kire degree atau diploma, ade matlamat dan kesungguhan, suma leh jadi..yang penting cari ilmu dan pengalaman untuk mantapkan diri..Sori, kalu ade ape2 yg salah, tolong betulkan eh.. ni berdasarkan dari pengalaman aku jer..P/S : student dip poli + sambung degree kat 'U' = mantap tol.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 xpe2.. ur welcome.. aa..maksud aku sama cam en.destroyer gtaulah tu..bukannya maksud aku, degree lebih bagus dari diploma, atau degree sama taraf ngan diploma..cume selalunye diploma dilebihkan teknikal skit drpd degree..yang bagusnya kalu ade dua2... maksudnye kalau ko tak cukup syarat utk keje gune degree, leh gune diploma dulu.. bile ader pengalaman lebih skit, setahun 2, senang2 je dpt keje tahap degree, cam engineer ke atau projek manager ke?Perpun suma atas kite, x kire degree atau diploma, ade matlamat dan kesungguhan, suma leh jadi..yang penting cari ilmu dan pengalaman untuk mantapkan diri..Sori, kalu ade ape2 yg salah, tolong betulkan eh.. ni berdasarkan dari pengalaman aku jer..P/S : student dip poli + sambung degree kat 'U' = mantap tol..hoho. itu mmg xdinafikan. sbb, bdk poli yg trus bwat degree nih bukan calang2. kebanyakan mmg btul2 fokus study bile masuk U. ramai lecturer ckp, bdk poli yg bwat degree ni very2 fast worker.cuma dorang kene catch-up sket kt bahagian teori. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 btol gak ape yg ko ckp tuh zex...dip poli + dip u = mmg mantap..!!..tp ade ke yg wat camtu?? ...haha..anyhw,name pown da politeknik..mesty arr dorg ke arh technichian jew compare to teori..papepown aku da x pening sgt da skg..thanks 4 the xplainations u guys!! (= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 mengenai soalan asal ko berkenaan bdk dip kene kerja baru smbung degree ak explain sket.kalo pointer diploma ko tggi, for example 3.75, ko bley trus smbung degree tanpa kerja.tp kalo 3.3/3.4 and lower than that, biasanya U xkan terima dulu. lepas ko keje setaun baru dorang amek ko bwat degree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2008 mengenai soalan asal ko berkenaan bdk dip kene kerja baru smbung degree ak explain sket.kalo pointer diploma ko tggi, for example 3.75, ko bley trus smbung degree tanpa kerja.tp kalo 3.3/3.4 and lower than that, biasanya U xkan terima dulu. lepas ko keje setaun baru dorang amek ko bwat degree.waa....skg aku da brtmbh2 pemahaman trhdp isu nih..thanks arr destroyer....siap ngn xample agi.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixx 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 kalau ada pengalaman kerja, ipt lg senang nak ambik banding yg fresh2 nih. pengalaman kerja tu utk tambah nilai kat diploma tu lah. 3.5+2 tahun pengalamaan kerja lebih bernilai dpd 3.5 fresh grad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HazZ HertZ 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 owh begitu ye...jd kesimpulannyer d sni....dip U is a long journey to graduate..compare to dip poli,matrik,stpm....(so on)papepown, klu kte nk short journey on dip U, we have to work hard n struggle to achieve the best poiter which is 3.75 something...anyhw, sume nih brgntg pd..>INDVDU have to berusaha tok dpt terbaik dan x lupe brdoa untk kejayaan....n maybe solat hajat skali..>REZEKI MASING2 huraiannyer....rezeki itu ade d mne2...P/S thanks a lot to all yg respond2 tuh.. well kite mnusia kene sling tlg mnolg pd mrk yg dlm kesusahn... anywy..aku nih pown kengkadg ckp jew pandai...watnye x..hehe..mmg hipokrik jew kn sound nye??..haha..base r kekurgn dri.. pade sape2 yg da bce forum nih..aku hrp korg dpt r serbe byk maklumt dr nyer...ok?..(= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazy_labelle 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 ak diploma amek It...tp degree ak nak amek muzik boleh??? haha... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 owh begitu ye...jd kesimpulannyer d sni....dip U is a long journey to graduate..compare to dip poli,matrik,stpm....(so on)papepown, klu kte nk short journey on dip U, we have to work hard n struggle to achieve the best poiter which is 3.75 something...anyhw, sume nih brgntg pd..>INDVDU have to berusaha tok dpt terbaik dan x lupe brdoa untk kejayaan....n maybe solat hajat skali..>REZEKI MASING2 huraiannyer....rezeki itu ade d mne2...P/S thanks a lot to all yg respond2 tuh.. well kite mnusia kene sling tlg mnolg pd mrk yg dlm kesusahn... anywy..aku nih pown kengkadg ckp jew pandai...watnye x..hehe..mmg hipokrik jew kn sound nye??..haha..base r kekurgn dri.. pade sape2 yg da bce forum nih..aku hrp korg dpt r serbe byk maklumt dr nyer...ok?..(=wait a minute. ade sedikit kesalahan. diploma poli sama standard dgn diploma U. jangan hina diploma poli. dorang sama taraf.ko kene faham, pre-U(stpm, matric, a-leve) dan diploma mmg lain kumpulan.ko boleh guna sijil diploma utk keje.tp ko xbley guna sjil stpm utk keje. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_elida 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 salam...tak kira lah dip ker degree ker...yang penting skill dan pengetahuan anda...sbb time cr keje nanti....dia akan lihat semua ini...apa salahnya kalo anda try kerja...maybe pengetahuan akan bertambah...pernah jumpa dak degree...tapi jap lg nak try tunjuk kat budak dip...org kata berlagak ar...dia kena balik...pasal???dak dip tue lagi teror...hua...hua... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixx 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 wait a minute. ade sedikit kesalahan. diploma poli sama standard dgn diploma U. jangan hina diploma poli. dorang sama taraf.ko kene faham, pre-U(stpm, matric, a-leve) dan diploma mmg lain kumpulan.ko boleh guna sijil diploma utk keje.tp ko xbley guna sjil stpm utk keje.sapa kata stpm tak bole guna utk kerja? stpm ada sijil dan boleh digunakan utk kerja sama mcm spm. matriks & asasi je yg tak bole guna utk kerja Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destroyer 0 Report post Posted May 8, 2008 owh.sori2. ak trsalah tadi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
