Linux Leh Masuk Apple Tak?

[Peacez 0]

Ade Tak Linux..Sebarang Linux Ar..

bleh masuk kat iMac..

[Hackezkk 4]

ade!

ubuntu ntuk MAC ade aper

tapi aku tak pnah test laa

[Navigator® 6]

huhuh.. aku rase.. untuk old mac kot.. kalau baru tak tau lak..

ko try la..

[mykomuniti 0]

aku ader utk mac punyer kalu kor nak free jer... PM aku balik aaa

[prolinux 0]

Ade Tak Linux..Sebarang Linux Ar..

bleh masuk kat iMac..

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Aku dah try Ubuntu live CD pada iBook G4 dan Powermac aku kat rumah....tak ada masalah. Mcm PC gak

[Ehc 0]

aku install SuSE 10 ppc atas PowerBook G4,

cun abis.......

untuk details PM aku.

[ahmades 2]

Pergh..... mmg best la Linux bleh run kat platform Apple. Windows je x da lagi. Kalau ada aku mesti sambar Apple puyai.

[Ehc 0]

Windows je x da lagi. Kalau ada aku mesti sambar Apple puyai.

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takder team developer yang nak develop windows dalam apple kot?

[TRUNASUCI 15]

erm rasa aku kalau org tuh dah pakai MacOS, sahnya taknak pakai windows dah.. that's why depa beli iMac ke apa pun .. pelik plak kalau ada org mintak nak windows run kat mac..

ibarat org nak barang proton wira masuk kat EVO la ...

[Ehc 0]

betul tu, apa istimewanya kalau Windows dapat install dekat apple?

atau tak kena virus ke?

apa pula istimewanya linux on apple?

it always free.

[cikgureza 5]

Aku wakil dari the Open Source Valley Project (OSVP)

http://osvp.homelinux.org

OSVP ada Ubuntu Linux (Breezy Badger~Debian Core) untuk Mac (Original CD) ,boleh bagi free tanpa sebarang bayaran duit. Tapi kena buat kerja sikit le kalau nak CD tu . Iaitu kena bagi komitment untuk sebarkan (copykan cd tu) ke 100 user lain. Kemudian senarai 100 orang tu forward balik ke OSVP. Itu je..bukan kena bayar pun, OSVP siap bayar duit postage untuk hantar cd tu lagi. Ada dua version, 1 install CD dan satu Live CD..Kalau nak contact cepat

email ke [email protected]

[ahmades 2]

Kepada Ehc dan TRUNASUCI, nih aku jawab persoalan kamu berdua.

Well, komuniti komputer yang ada kat Malaysia ni 90% lebih menggunakan Windows sebagai platform utama, aku bleh menggunakan MAC atau Linux untuk platform OS aku tetapi oleh kerana kedudukan resource bagi MAC dan Linux adalah kurang dan terhad berbanding resource Windows maka aku terpaksa menggunakan Windows sebagai platform utama. Resource yang dimaksudkan adalah file sharing, community, gaming serta software.

Aku suka Linux kerana aku bleh ubahsuai coding Linux sesuka hati aku dan OS tu berjalan mengikut kehendak aku, dan I love MAC very much cause aku memang suka performance MAC yang terbukti untuk kerja-kerja grafik.

Of cource, kalau aku pilih MAC maka komuniti yang bekerja bersama-sama aku mesti menggunakan MAC kalau tanak masalah perkongsian berlaku. Kalau aku menggunakan Linux, kerja-kerja grafik serta kebebasan gaming pula kurang. Tu yang terpaksa menggunakan Windows walaupun aku suka guna Linux.

Kalau Windows berada pada mesin Apple ini bermakna, kuasa Windows untuk mengedit grafik dan sokongan software serta gaming akan meningkat sekaligus meningkatkan produktiviti kerja aku.

[AkuSemakinBlur 0]

macintosh bukan ke nama asal dia von neumann machine..tak silap aku ahh..komputer pertama dunia..then lepas beberapa dekad barulah terciptanya windows..then muncul lagi linux anak kepada macintosh yg banyak diubah suai tapi tak jaoh beza..macintosh tak popular dikalangan malaysian...no wonder laa masih ramai lagi yg suka menggunakan windows....seperti yg ahmades terangkan kat atas windows senang nak edit coding,sharing,community gamming dan juga pemilihan software tapi ahmades terlupa satu perkara tentang windows ....platform OS tu adalah senang masuk virus kena hijack termasuk malware keylogger dan yg sekutu dgnnya..tetapi sebaliknya apabila anda menggunakan macintosh..ini pandangan dari satu sudut lahkan..banyak lagi sebnarnya kelebihan macintosh kalau nak compare ngan windows..aku tgk kat overseas ..banyak animation studios guna macintosh ..mereka juga sharing file buat community gamming gak then of course ahh melakukan kerja2 graphic edit mengedit gak tetapi productivity kerja dia pon superb gak..cuma kat malaysia ni tak ramai yg berani nak menggunakan platform mac OS sebagai platform utama mereka...

[ahmades 2]

........ahmades terlupa satu perkara tentang windows ....platform OS tu adalah senang masuk virus kena hijack termasuk malware keylogger dan yg sekutu dgnnya.....

Betul yang ni aku terlupa. Minta maaf.

[congkak 0]

aku dah berjaya buat dual boot OS X 10.4 Tiger dengan Ubuntu Linux 5.10 atas iBook G4 aku.

Info macam mana aku buat ada kat blog aku:

http://aku.sukamac.com/?p=7

Aku nak tambah sikit lagik pasal info Mac nih. Kebanyakkan member2 yang pakai Windows selalu ingat Mac ni mahal. Bila aku cakap pasal Mac mini harga dia RM 2,300 semua tak caya. Basically seme orang bleh la nak pakai Mac kalau nak.

Memang tak dinafikan Mac mmg kurang dari segi games, tapi dalam development, aku pakai Mac untuk edit PHP, run Apache web server, etc.Plus aku bleh install Linux punye apps pakai Fink atau boot Mac aku Linux.

Harga Macs sekarang ni mmg dah kira tak semahal Mac yang dulu. iBook yang paling low end pun baru harga RM3000++.

Tu je kot

[ahmades 2]

Harga Macs sekarang ni mmg dah kira tak semahal Mac yang dulu. iBook yang paling low end pun baru harga RM3000++.

Tu baru yang paling low-end. Kalau yang high-end punya entahlah rege dia....

[enn0suke 0]

Aku ader dpt satu info yg nak share sikit kat sini. Ari tu ader contest utk 'port'kan windows Xp supaya blh run dual boot ngan Mac OSX dlm sebijik i-Mac. Hadiah dia agak lumayan gak. Info dia kat sini. Contest tu dah tamat dah & dah ader pemenang pun.

[AkuSemakinBlur 0]

alamak habislaa keaslian MACINTOSH kalau camni...aku sayang apple dan juga macintosh serta kaum kerabat dia termasuk desktop dia..kalau boleh taknak ada org clone kan computer ni serious talking memang taknak sangat org copy or combine dgn microsoft product or linux..tapi apa leh wat skang cam2 ilmu leh dapat dgn hujung jari.....sebnonya mac tak popular dikalangan malaysian je thats why depa selalu kata harga mahal..yg mahal tu apple yg high standard+original software dia..satu lagi kalau seme org dah start clone macintosh system ..hilanglah keunikan apple product....alamak aku cakap cam director apple ler plak i lurv my mac

[Yunara 0]

alamak habislaa keaslian MACINTOSH kalau camni...aku sayang apple dan juga macintosh serta kaum kerabat dia termasuk desktop dia..kalau boleh taknak ada org clone kan computer ni serious talking memang taknak sangat org copy or combine dgn microsoft product or linux..tapi apa leh wat skang cam2 ilmu leh dapat dgn hujung jari.....sebnonya mac tak popular dikalangan malaysian je thats why depa selalu kata harga mahal..yg mahal tu apple yg high standard+original software dia..satu lagi kalau seme org dah start clone macintosh system ..hilanglah keunikan apple product....alamak aku cakap cam director apple ler plak i lurv my mac

As from today - 5th April 2006 - Apple is officially 'allowing' Windows XP to run on Apple hardware. They came out with this small software called 'Boot Camp', which allows windows xp to run natively without virtualisation. BUT. It's only possible on the new Intel Macs, not the PPC macs, sorry.

[cikgureza 5]

As from today - 5th April 2006 - Apple is officially 'allowing' Windows XP to run on Apple hardware. They came out with this small software called 'Boot Camp', which allows windows xp to run natively without virtualisation. BUT. It's only possible on the new Intel Macs, not the PPC macs, sorry.

Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)! This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple). And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name. And as for mac osx, they just enable a program that lock other os (except Linux) to run on their machine. But if you have the Mac OSx developer version, you can run it on an new intel's or amd's box-hassle free...

[Yunara 0]

Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)! This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple). And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name. And as for mac osx, they just enable a program that lock other os (except Linux) to run on their machine. But if you have the Mac OSx developer version, you can run it on an new intel's or amd's box-hassle free...

Salam,

I am really sorry but your English is rather confusing. Your statements don't make sense:

1) "Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)!"

First of all, we are talking about 'BootCamp', NOT about os x running on intel machines, which is totally a different subject. "On April 5th 2006 Apple announced the release of Boot Camp which will allow users of Intel based Macs to run Windows XP" - (source: Wikipedia)

Compare with your statement again:

"Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)!"

????

"This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple)"

Since when?? Plus, your English don't make sense at all. The first sentence totally mismatch the second sentence. What money did Steve Jobs owe Bill Gates? To become back the CEO of Apple?? Ni citer mana ni?

If you are talking about Microsoft giving $150 million dollars to Apple in 1997, it is not in order to help Steve Jobs to become CEO, but it is a non-voting investment in Apple's stock at that time.

3)"And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name."

Since when is the new core duo chips are the SAME with celeron duo core and p4 duo core? I think you have your facts wrong. Some facts from 'http://www.hardwaresecrets.com':

"Core Duo (formerly known by its codename, Yonah) is the first dual-core Intel CPU targeted to the mobile market, i.e. inside it there are two complete CPUs. Curiously it is also the first Intel processor to be adopted by Apple Computer...

Core Duo is, in fact, a Pentium M with two cores and manufactured using 65-nm process (Pentium M is manufactured using 90 nm process)."

From here, we know that Core Duo is an advanced chip based on Pentium M. So what is Pentium M?

"Pentium M is based on Intel’s 6th generation architecture, a.k.a. P6, the same used by Pentium Pro, Pentium II and Pentium III CPUs and not on Pentium 4’s as you may think, being originally targeted to mobile computers. You may think of Pentium M as an enhanced Pentium III. Pay attention to not confuse Pentium M with Pentium 4 M or with Pentium III M, which are different CPUs." - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com

Let's look at your statement again:

"And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name."

This statement is clearly wrong because Core Duo is based on Pentium M's architecture and Pentium M is an enhanced version of Pentium 3, not Celeron Duo Core or P4 Duo Core for that matter. Plus, the new mac laptop is called MacBook Pro, not PowerBook.

4) "And as for mac osx, they just enable a program that lock other os (except Linux) to run on their machine. But if you have the Mac OSx developer version, you can run it on an new intel's or amd's box-hassle free..."

Ya Allah... English... maaflah kalau saya kata your English is rather appalling. The sentence doesn't make sense. What are you trying to say? Let me translate what you've just said:

Dan berkenaan Mac OS X, mereka hanya membolehkan satu program yang menghalang operating system yang lain (kecuali Linux) untuk digunakan pada computer mereka. Tetapi jika anda ada Mac OS X versi developer, anda boleh mengunnakannya pada computer intel atau amd tanpa halangan..

What are you trying to say in this sentence? Tak faham... How does it relate to Boot Camp?? Please clarify your statements.

Please read your comments again, for example this one:

"Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)! This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple)."

Translate: Sebenarnya, bukan win xp yang berjalan atas Mac baru, tetapi OS X yang berjalan atas computer Intel (AMD juga). Ini adalah kerana Steve Jobs berhutang dengan Bill Gates (untuk menjadi CEO Apple)

Huh? Statement apa tu? There's not logical link between the first sentence and the second one. Disebabkan Steve Job berhutang dengan Bill Gate, OS X berjalan atas computer Intel?

Maaf kalau menyinggung, tak bermaksud sebenarnya.

[AkuSemakinBlur 0]

yunara u ni sure apple macintosh maniac kan ..kewl babe

[ahmades 2]

Hmpp... aku dah mula sukakan thread nih.

Sebenarnya, dari segi pandangan kita mengenai hardware, kenapa agaknya Apple menggunakan P4 sebagai pemproses kepada Mac, bukannya PowerPC. Sedangkan PowerPC tu lagi power dari Intel tu (iyelah, aku ada jenguk satu komputer Apple yang run PowerPC berkelajuan 400Mhz tapi power sungguh komputer tu kalau nak dibandingkan dengan Intel Pentium 4 2.4, ini aku testing dengan menggunakan perisian mathlab , kelajuan mengira).

Secara pandangan business, Apple seolah-olah men-down-grade hardware MAC dengan menggunakan Pentium. Tapi, kebanyakkan komputer Apple nih sungguh mahal, dan tak termampu orang biasa atau separa-professional nak membelinya. Dengan mendown-grade MAC, Apple dapat menjimatkan kos dan mejual MAC dengan harga yang agak murah sedikit. Dengan itu lebih ramai lagi pengguna membeli MAC.

Satu lagi berkenaan Windows yang boleh run atau MAC Pentium, Apple terpaksa membenarkan sistem hardware mereka meyokong Windows kerana itu kehendak pengguna sendiri yang inginkan enviroment Windows, maklumlah secara kasarnya mereka terbiasa dengan Windows sebelum munculnya MAC nih. Kalau tak dibenarkan, camner MAC hendak disasarkan kepada pengguna kelas biasa dan separa-professional. Semua ini adalah teknik business.

Kalau korang gaduh pasal platform pun tak guna, kerana diorang nih business. Dan MAC pula masih kurang mendapat sambutan golongan separa-professional. Terpaksalah buat itu-ini untuk sasarkan produk mereka.

Peace..

[cikgureza 5]

Salam,

I am really sorry but your English is rather confusing. Your statements don't make sense:

1) "Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)!"

First of all, we are talking about 'BootCamp', NOT about os x running on intel machines, which is totally a different subject. "On April 5th 2006 Apple announced the release of Boot Camp which will allow users of Intel based Macs to run Windows XP" - (source: Wikipedia)

Compare with your statement again:

"Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)!"

????

"This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple)"

Since when?? Plus, your English don't make sense at all. The first sentence totally mismatch the second sentence. What money did Steve Jobs owe Bill Gates? To become back the CEO of Apple?? Ni citer mana ni?

If you are talking about Microsoft giving $150 million dollars to Apple in 1997, it is not in order to help Steve Jobs to become CEO, but it is a non-voting investment in Apple's stock at that time.

3)"And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name."

Since when is the new core duo chips are the SAME with celeron duo core and p4 duo core? I think you have your facts wrong. Some facts from 'http://www.hardwaresecrets.com':

"Core Duo (formerly known by its codename, Yonah) is the first dual-core Intel CPU targeted to the mobile market, i.e. inside it there are two complete CPUs. Curiously it is also the first Intel processor to be adopted by Apple Computer...

Core Duo is, in fact, a Pentium M with two cores and manufactured using 65-nm process (Pentium M is manufactured using 90 nm process)."

From here, we know that Core Duo is an advanced chip based on Pentium M. So what is Pentium M?

"Pentium M is based on Intel’s 6th generation architecture, a.k.a. P6, the same used by Pentium Pro, Pentium II and Pentium III CPUs and not on Pentium 4’s as you may think, being originally targeted to mobile computers. You may think of Pentium M as an enhanced Pentium III. Pay attention to not confuse Pentium M with Pentium 4 M or with Pentium III M, which are different CPUs." - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com

Let's look at your statement again:

"And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name."

This statement is clearly wrong because Core Duo is based on Pentium M's architecture and Pentium M is an enhanced version of Pentium 3, not Celeron Duo Core or P4 Duo Core for that matter. Plus, the new mac laptop is called MacBook Pro, not PowerBook.

4) "And as for mac osx, they just enable a program that lock other os (except Linux) to run on their machine. But if you have the Mac OSx developer version, you can run it on an new intel's or amd's box-hassle free..."

Ya Allah... English... maaflah kalau saya kata your English is rather appalling. The sentence doesn't make sense. What are you trying to say? Let me translate what you've just said:

Dan berkenaan Mac OS X, mereka hanya membolehkan satu program yang menghalang operating system yang lain (kecuali Linux) untuk digunakan pada computer mereka. Tetapi jika anda ada Mac OS X versi developer, anda boleh mengunnakannya pada computer intel atau amd tanpa halangan..

What are you trying to say in this sentence? Tak faham... How does it relate to Boot Camp?? Please clarify your statements.

Please read your comments again, for example this one:

"Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)! This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple)."

Translate: Sebenarnya, bukan win xp yang berjalan atas Mac baru, tetapi OS X yang berjalan atas computer Intel (AMD juga). Ini adalah kerana Steve Jobs berhutang dengan Bill Gates (untuk menjadi CEO Apple)

Huh? Statement apa tu? There's not logical link between the first sentence and the second one. Disebabkan Steve Job berhutang dengan Bill Gate, OS X berjalan atas computer Intel?

Maaf kalau menyinggung, tak bermaksud sebenarnya.

Walaikumsalam..

Sorry..no hard feelings, i didnt mean to hurt any Mac Fan punya feelings, cuma, as a GNU/Linux user yang bagi "pendapat atas pagar" it is considered fair since the Main topic here is " Boleh ke Linux jalan atas MAC?" (sila refer balik pada tajuk thread ni ye..)

Dan, statement penaja IKLAN >>

"As from today - 5th April 2006 - Apple is officially 'allowing' Windows XP to run on Apple hardware. They came out with this small software called 'Boot Camp', which allows windows xp to run natively without virtualisation. BUT. It's only possible on the new Intel Macs, not the PPC macs, sorry."

Jadi bila saya tulis (walaupun english saya merapu~sebab saya tak sekolah kat the UK)

"Actually its not the win xp that can run on the new mac, but the mac osx is running on intel's box (amd box also)!" i really, really mean it, like it or not! Maksud nya, saya cuba bagi tau semua org bahawa, "bukan Windows Xp yang di benarkan jalan atas Apple hardware, tapi mAC osx tu yang boleh jalan atas intel punya box(sebab sebelum ni intel box's di monopoly oleh SEBAHAGIAN kecil microsoft punya os dan BANYAK GNU/Linux OS)" maybe cik Yunara confuse sebab statement " osx is" tu kot? sepatutnya saya bubuh "os x will be able to runs on" (sorry le, sebab cikgu english saya mati masa nak ajar bab ni le..kesian cikgu saya.. )

Saya kena adil pada semua forumers, sebab cik/encik YUnara macam nak sorok cerita yang sebenar je? mAafkan saya kalau tersilap tafsir niat Cik Yunara. Maybe sebab saya confused bila cik yunara tulis "Apple is officially 'allowing' Windows XP to run on Apple hardware" sebab english saya tak berapa elok, jadi maybe saya tersalah tafsir perkataan "allowing" tu kepada "mengizinkan/membenarkan" sorry le kalau tersalah kamus..tapi saya rasa org lain berhak tahu bahawa bukan Boot Camp yang izinkan Win XP run on Apple hardware> sebab apple hardware baru ni sama je macam box yang boleh dapat kat mana2 kedai komputer (minimum sse2)! Dan bab ni berbalik pada kisah ni bila ditanya balik pada "how does it related to boot camp?" dan bila saya kata :

"And as for mac osx, they just enable a program that lock other os (except Linux) to run on their machine. But if you have the Mac OSx developer version, you can run it on an new intel's or amd's box-hassle free..."

trnaslation bahasa melayu versi saya :

" Dan bagi Mac OS X, ianya hanya meng enable kan sejenis program yang menghalang OS lain (selain Linux) untuk run atas machine mereka (Apple). Tetapi jika anda ada MAc OSX versi developer, anda boleh menjalankan ia (Mac OSX) atas mana2 komputer intel atau AMd yang baru (minima ada sse2) "

sorry le kalau english saya mengkonpiuskan org..(gimmi a fish for a day..and i'll eat it for a day. Teach me to fish, and..)

Saya memang tersilap, sebab bukan program yang di enable tapi satu chip yang di pasang dan di gelar TPM (Trusted Platform Module) atas Appple hardware. Dan pada awalnya MAcIntel punya PC (what soever the name is!) di pasang dengan chip TPM, tu, supaya, Micsoft punya OS tak leh di install, (tapi linux memang dari dulu buleh, atas PPC pun buleh!) tapi, para penggodam telah mencuba dan berjaya mengatasi encryption TPM pada MACintel punya laptop sampaikan ada para penggodam yang kata "Apple could have made the lock heavier." Jadi kaitan kisah yang saya tulis dengan boot camp software tadi? Maksudnya~ there is no boot camp, tapi Apple terpaksa buat software tu memandangkan sooner or later, Apa2 OS atau program pun buleh run atas MacIntel diorang. Dan begitu juga sebaliknya,kalau kita guna OSX developer edition (bahasa halus untuk OSX versi Torrent/Pirated!),untuk di instal atas Intel box, tak payah tunggu Macintel yang ada chip TPM tu (sebab masa awal2 dulu diorang claim OS X cuma boleh jalan atas Mac yang ada chip TPM ajer!)

Dan statement saya " "This is due to the fact that Steve Job owe Bill Gate his money (to become back the CEo of Apple)" pun saya really,really mean it. Ini berdasarkan kaitan dengan logik akal... bukankah pada tahun 1997 Microsoft inject duit USD$150 million? dan kalau ikutkan milestone apple pada tahun 1997, citernya cam ni..

1997

January: Steve Jobs returns to Apple as an advisor.

January: Apple unveils plans for a new OS that incorporates NextStep; it’s code-named Rhapsody.

May: To mark its 20th anniversary as a company, Apple releases the 20th Anniversary Macintosh (price: $10,000).The 20th Anniversary Mac

July: Gil Amelio resigns from Apple. (Kenapa dia resign sebulan sebelum MAcWorld expo?)

August: The satellite-beamed image of Bill Gates shares the Macworld Expo stage with Jobs, as Microsoft and Apple announce a five-year technology alliance. ( Rasa2nya kalau Gil ada lagi kat Apple dia bagi ke Macworld punya expo tu ada Bill? Dan kalau ikut kan tahun technology alliance- tahun ni dah yang ke 8 kan)

August: Mac OS 8 ships.

August: Macworld and MacUser merge into a single magazine.

September: Jobs becomes Apple’s interim CEO.

It so happen bila tahun yang sama Bill inject duit, Gil chalo dari Apple, dan Bill kawan baik ngan Apple (masa tu tgh hangat kes saman2 menyaman sebab monopoly Microsoft), dan tahun yang sama jugak Steve jadi iCEO Apple...hmmm )

Dan milestone membuktikan segala teori saya.. Panggillah saya sebagai seoarng skeptic ke, disbeliever ke, apa ke, tapi saya akan stick dengan statement saya. Dan sepatutnya Mac fan kena berfikiran sama..Woziak pun berenti sebab apa?

Dan jgn terkejut, kalau dia sendiri kata dia pun tak berapa suka Kepulangan Steve ke apple..ini petikan interview dengan dia.. (http://www.failuremag.com/failure_interview.html)

"How did you feel when Steve Jobs returned to Apple?

I wasn’t totally happy about it in light of the fact that Apple was having horrible problems. Steve being there looks good—it inspires people. I don’t think he’s the best choice as a hero for Apple, but I think he believes inside himself very strongly that he is. You’d rather have a person that just totally believes in the company. But the press is looking for a hero. Basically, the steps he’s taken are to run Apple as efficiently as possible. In the past, we would just take big flyers and have tons of junk leftover that we couldn’t sell, and that was really where we lost our money. Now things are very tight. That means you can’t get computers and accessories very easily. But if you know that a certain number of people are going to buy Macs, build a good Mac for them and you are guaranteed the profit. Just don’t make mistakes and overbuild and try to challenge new markets. So it’s being run conservatively. Good for Apple."

Teori ni lah yang membuktikan kenapa saya kata Steve Job masuk balik Apple sebab Bill, dan kaitan dengan kisah MAcIntel (mac yang boleh jln atas INTEL) adalah sebab kisah atas ni le. Dan bila dah berhutang, Steve terpaksa le kena ikut cakap Bill, sebab kena ikat idung dia. Maybe Bill rasa terancam bila tiba2 je dalam couple of years ni, (start dari g3 kot), cult Mac ni semakin membesar. Di tambah pulak cool ness (betul ke ayat ni?) bagi owner Mac start dari G3 sampai G5. Kalau sebab harga dia nak turunkan spec Mac, maybe tidak, sebab Mac bukanlah semahal yang di sangka~jika dibandingkan dgn pakej yang diberi. IBook G4 (kot) baru dalam RM 3600 (harga dealer), tapi perasaan bila guna iBook tu kat coffee bean ke starbucks ke (untuk wi fi)~ priceless.

Dan jugak, sila pikirkan semula, sebagai MAC FAN, anda semua pasti tahu, bahawa (dulu) Apple sebenarnya menjual "hardware" nya sendiri dan bukan nya software dia sgt.sebab tu Apple unik. Dan semua tahu jwapan bahawa, Windows memang takleh jalan atas Apple hardware (dulu), dan cara untuk dia monopoly mindsetting cult Apple adalah dengan mintak steve buatkan Darwin dia tu mampu run atas intel. Kalau tak takkan le Mac baik sgt nak iklan yang XP buleh jalan atas MacIntel..logik kan?

Bahagian 3)"And the the new intel duo core which running on the new powerbook, is actually the same as the celeron duo core or the p4 duo core, they just chage the name."

Yang ni saya mengaku kesilapan teknikal saya... yang run on MacIntel tu Core Duo dan version bukan MacIntel pulak adalah Intel Pentium Dual-Core. Dan sememngnya tida celeron atau P4 dual core.

Cuma buat pengetahuan semua, intel Core Duo (MAcIntel) sama dengn iNtel Dual-Core, adalah dari segi kebolehan kedua2 nya untuk meng run kan Mac OS X.

Jadi harapan saya adalah..agar terducate lah semua org yang mengikuti thread ni...Kalau ada salah dan silap, saya minta maaf. tapi yang penting 'GNU/LINUX MEMANG BOLEH JALAN ATAS MAC".

Edited April 11, 2006 by cikgureza

[cikgureza 5]

Ada sesapa nak kongsi conspiracy theory pasal apple?