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ko pki vista ultimare 32bit @ 64bit?
kalau ko pki 32bit?
x payah la ko letak 8GB dlm tu...
yg terpakai hanya dlm 3.5GB je...
baki tu membazir je....

lagi satu...
ko kata slow?
ko pki proc aper? PSU ape? GC aper?
ko run aper yg nmpk slow tu?

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Dec 8 2008, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
slow ke 4GB? tweak la. aku penah jumpe vista 32bit berdesup atas Pentium M 800 Mhz + 2GB DDR2 667MHz. serius. smile.gif



yup..bg me..mcm slow lg...me punya vista ultimate...x64bit..2 leh cecah sampai 4gb...intel dual core....hoho...me dah tweak mcm2...tapi bukan guna software tweak sgt...sebabnya...i dah ada pengalaman guna software tweak nie..ada yg ok..ada yg x...ada yg software ada virus..ada yg x...so i know..mana 1 better...utk i...cuma..yg i tanya pasal ram 2 je masalahnya...nak bg ok sikit pc nie..buat keje pun senang ati..

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macam mane kite gune PC tu yang penting. startup, running services, yang agak2 tak gune tu, terminate je. banyak tutorial tweak kat internet ni. tinggal nak tak nak je.

gune proc ape? mobo? GC? sebab vista lain sikit. macam XP sume process 100% depend kat proc. kalau vista ade sikit dier bagi kat GC.

test n error la. sebab aku penah 'kambinghitam' kan 1 PC ni. Run vista ultimate X64 atas ram 1.5GB DDR1 (ye, bukan DDR2), proc Pentium D 3.2GHz smithfield, chipset P4M800 je. orait je run call of duty 2 (low setting, sebab monitor dier besar). takde ape2 masalah. sume ok. run microsoft word ok, run flash CS3 pon ok.

so, pepandai la tweak windows ni. bukan ape, kekadang kite tak dapat sepenuhnyer ape yang kite invest kat PC ni. so ape yang mampu kite tweak. kasik full performance hardware2 tu.

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QUOTE(SharedBox @ Dec 9 2008, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yup..bg me..mcm slow lg...me punya vista ultimate...x64bit..2 leh cecah sampai 4gb...intel dual core....hoho...me dah tweak mcm2...tapi bukan guna software tweak sgt...sebabnya...i dah ada pengalaman guna software tweak nie..ada yg ok..ada yg x...ada yg software ada virus..ada yg x...so i know..mana 1 better...utk i...cuma..yg i tanya pasal ram 2 je masalahnya...nak bg ok sikit pc nie..buat keje pun senang ati..


aku pakai 4gb main crysis high setting takde masalah...
takde tweak apa pun...laju je...
photochop, premiere ke hape suma ok...
vid rendering pun takde masalah...

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Dec 8 2008, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
slow ke 4GB? tweak la. aku penah jumpe vista 32bit berdesup atas Pentium M 800 Mhz + 2GB DDR2 667MHz. serius. smile.gif


btul ke ni?kalu ram tue aku pcya le...yg proc tue mmbuat aku was2....dual core 1.8ghz+2GB DDR2 800mhz pun merangkak2 pakai vista home premium.. sleep.gif

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QUOTE(Fen-D @ Dec 8 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dua jek ak nak tanye...

ko nak OC atau saje2 gune bese2 jek?

kalo nak OC...tak kisah ler ape2 ram pon..janji chip dye micron d9

kalo nak gune bese2 jek...bantai value jela...


me nak oc punya...asalkan leh tambahkan performance pc i nanti...

QUOTE(diamondclow @ Dec 8 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@sharedbox
ko pki vista ultimare 32bit @ 64bit?
kalau ko pki 32bit?
x payah la ko letak 8GB dlm tu...
yg terpakai hanya dlm 3.5GB je...
baki tu membazir je....

lagi satu...
ko kata slow?
ko pki proc aper? PSU ape? GC aper?
ko run aper yg nmpk slow tu?


me guna vista ultimate 64bit....
sebab 2 lah leh capai sampai 4gb...alang2 2...i nak cukupkan sampai 8gb....sebabnya..limitnya..sampai 8gb....
me pakai intel® pentium® dual core E1280...2.00GHz...me tengah guna graphic card nvidia geforce 8500gt..
me run sesetengah 2 mcm slow...tengok keadaan dia juga...

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wahahaha~
patut la slow...

pki E2180 ngan 8500GT rupanya...
yang slow tu part proc dan GC ko...
kalau ikutkan, RAM ko dah lebih dari cukup...

ps: ko tau ke nak OC?

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Dec 9 2008, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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macam mane kite gune PC tu yang penting. startup, running services, yang agak2 tak gune tu, terminate je. banyak tutorial tweak kat internet ni. tinggal nak tak nak je.

gune proc ape? mobo? GC? sebab vista lain sikit. macam XP sume process 100% depend kat proc. kalau vista ade sikit dier bagi kat GC.

test n error la. sebab aku penah 'kambinghitam' kan 1 PC ni. Run vista ultimate X64 atas ram 1.5GB DDR1 (ye, bukan DDR2), proc Pentium D 3.2GHz smithfield, chipset P4M800 je. orait je run call of duty 2 (low setting, sebab monitor dier besar). takde ape2 masalah. sume ok. run microsoft word ok, run flash CS3 pon ok.

so, pepandai la tweak windows ni. bukan ape, kekadang kite tak dapat sepenuhnyer ape yang kite invest kat PC ni. so ape yang mampu kite tweak. kasik full performance hardware2 tu.


i see...tapi..i xberapa berani sgt nak terminate mcm2..sikit boleh je...i dah jdkan vista i nie..mcm nampak xp dah..dah tutup segala2 animation kat vista nie...i tweak kebanyakkannya..kat regedit&gpedit.msc..services.msc pun sama juga...sampai msconfig...utk bg shutdown bg cepat...
motherboard i..guna asus P5K SE...chipset P35...

QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 9 2008, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
aku pakai 4gb main crysis high setting takde masalah...
takde tweak apa pun...laju je...
photochop, premiere ke hape suma ok...
vid rendering pun takde masalah...


maybe u punya proccessor ok kot...graphic u ok..u punya pc proccessor apa..graphic card apa...

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skrg ni masalahnya kat proc dan GC....
cuba kumpul fund utk 2 benda ni...
bagi aku 4GB dah lebih dari mencukupi....
RAM sekadar melancarkan operasi VISTA je...

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QUOTE(diamondclow @ Dec 9 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wahahaha~
patut la slow...

pki E2180 ngan 8500GT rupanya...
yang slow tu part proc dan GC ko...
kalau ikutkan, RAM ko dah lebih dari cukup...

ps: ko tau ke nak OC?



hoho...dah 2 je..i mampu beli masa 2...nie pun tengah nak upgrade 1per 1...nie...i see...ok2..thanks....mula2 i nak upgradekan...graphic card i dulu...lepas 2..baru proccessor...
maksudmu...tahu nak pasang/x ke oc 2 kat aku punya pc ke..kadang2 i blur2 sikit...hoho... blink.gif kalo i xtahu..apa kena buat pula..kalo i tahu apa pula...hoho...

QUOTE(diamondclow @ Dec 9 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
skrg ni masalahnya kat proc dan GC....
cuba kumpul fund utk 2 benda ni...
bagi aku 4GB dah lebih dari mencukupi....
RAM sekadar melancarkan operasi VISTA je...


ok2...nie yg i tengah kumpul2 nie..tengah fikir..alternatif lain...nak bg pc lg ok...xpelah...i cuma nak testing2 je apa yg akan berlaku lepas 2...mana tahu kalo i upgrade ram jenis mcm 2..ok sikit drpd sblm2 nie...janji ada perubahan sikit...hoho...

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yela...
ko kata nak tambah lagi 4GB RAM dlm tu...
dan aku terbaca ko nak oc sbb tu nak pki RAM yg bagus....

adalah lebih baik kesemua RAM otu sama brand, speed dan identical antara satu sama lain sbb benda tu yg memainkan peranan masa ko nak OC nanti...

result tetap sama kalau ko campurkan value RAM + performance RAM...
dier akan ikut performance RAM yg paling rendah... Edited by diamondclow

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QUOTE(diamondclow @ Dec 9 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yela...
ko kata nak tambah lagi 4GB RAM dlm tu...
dan aku terbaca ko nak oc sbb tu nak pki RAM yg bagus....

adalah lebih baik kesemua RAM otu sama brand, speed dan identical antara satu sama lain sbb benda tu yg memainkan peranan masa ko nak OC nanti...

result tetap sama kalau ko campurkan value RAM + performance RAM...
dier akan ikut performance RAM yg paling rendah...


ok2...hehe...i see...ok2...i xnak guna value ram dah...i nak letak semua yg high performance/extreme gaming punya ram dah..lepas nie...
so ram yg dulu 2..i nak letak kat pc adik i nanti..hoho....

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QUOTE(SharedBox @ Dec 9 2008, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i see...tapi..i xberapa berani sgt nak terminate mcm2..sikit boleh je...i dah jdkan vista i nie..mcm nampak xp dah..dah tutup segala2 animation kat vista nie...i tweak kebanyakkannya..kat regedit&gpedit.msc..services.msc pun sama juga...sampai msconfig...utk bg shutdown bg cepat...
motherboard i..guna asus P5K SE...chipset P35...



maybe u punya proccessor ok kot...graphic u ok..u punya pc proccessor apa..graphic card apa...


aku pakai xeon ngn 3870...
tp aku punya laptop 2GB stil takde prob pe...
lagi cekai dari E2180...

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 9 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
aku pakai xeon ngn 3870...
tp aku punya laptop 2GB stil takde prob pe...
lagi cekai dari E2180...


hoho..yo kor...laptop lain pula....desktop pun lain...i pun kadang2 poning nak fikir...mcm mana nak settlekan masalah mcm nie...agaknya...dia nak suruh tuannya...tukar semua kot...hoho...

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 9 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
try chkdsk and defrag...
repair registry sekali...
try update driver...

nah...ni link cpu-z aku...kalau ko ingat aku tpu la...

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=428449


me dah update segala driver...termasuk graphic card skali...me cuma nak tahu je u punya pc mcm mana...bila i tengok..semuanya ok....intel xeon..i xmampu nak beli...hoho..nie...i baru tengok kat pc zone ari nie punya harga....cuba u tengok kat pc zone 2..kat box yg mushkin ddr2 performance memory 2...yg extreme perfomance (XP) ultra low latencies....jenis XP2-8500-55515-4GD ddr2 1066 5-5-5-15 2x2gb rm450...ok x 2...and XP2-6400-44412-4GD ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 2x2gb rm360....mana 1 yg ok ye...tlg....tengah poning pula tengok nie...mana 1 nak ambil..

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QUOTE(SharedBox @ Dec 9 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
me dah update segala driver...termasuk graphic card skali...me cuma nak tahu je u punya pc mcm mana...bila i tengok..semuanya ok....intel xeon..i xmampu nak beli...hoho..nie...i baru tengok kat pc zone ari nie punya harga....cuba u tengok kat pc zone 2..kat box yg mushkin ddr2 performance memory 2...yg extreme perfomance (XP) ultra low latencies....jenis XP2-8500-55515-4GD ddr2 1066 5-5-5-15 2x2gb rm450...ok x 2...and XP2-6400-44412-4GD ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 2x2gb rm360....mana 1 yg ok ye...tlg....tengah poning pula tengok nie...mana 1 nak ambil..


baik ambik OCZ punya hp ram...
tgk kat lyn punya garage sales...
4gb kit RM300 je...
aku beli pi black series cuma RM300...
CL4 @1000mhz.... blink.gif

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high performance ram tu gimik marketing je. sebenarnye tu RAM ntuk OC. if tak OC, amik je value RAM.

tweak jangan tak tweak. gpedit.msc tu stended sebab vista run lagi banyak services dari XP. gpedit.msc tu XP pon bole.

about tweak Pentium M tu, aku x mampu nak buat lagi, sebab tu betul2 sifu nyer laptop. dier boleh write MFT (master file table) sendiri gune calculation(yup, manual). selalu kite buat pakai Vista/XP repair CD je. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 9 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
baik ambik OCZ punya hp ram...
tgk kat lyn punya garage sales...
4gb kit RM300 je...
aku beli pi black series cuma RM300...
CL4 @1000mhz.... blink.gif


owh...i see..2..u tengok kat kedai mana 2...pc zone juga ke..ke kedai lain 2...kalo ocz 2...ada ddr2 fatal1ty edition...ddr2 platinum edition...ddr2 nvidia epp...ddr2 reaper edition....yg mana 1 ok...antara list2 brand 2....cuba utk tengok kat pc zone 2...kat list yg i ckp nie..mana 1 ok ye...i nak yg 2x2gb punya....

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nak tanyer TS, software ape yang TS gune paling berat?

Autocad?
Rhino?
CadCam?
Photoshop?
Illustrator?
After Effects?
Premiere?
Vegas?
Maya?
3dsMax?
or lain2 software?

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QUOTE(HexPhoenix @ Dec 9 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nak tanyer TS, software ape yang TS gune paling berat?

Autocad?
Rhino?
CadCam?
Photoshop?
Illustrator?
After Effects?
Premiere?
Vegas?
Maya?
3dsMax?
or lain2 software?


nak kata berat sgt...xdelah..cuma lambat sikit loadingnya...utk save file kadang2...nie..bila kita guna software flash 8...banyak guna memory kadang2..nak save 2 lah..kadang2 terkeluar terus..tension tul..nak kata virus ada...selalu scan...nak guna av yg ok pula 2..selalu...maintainance...lepas 2..bila kita nak play lagu kat window media play lambat sikit..kalo i guna winamp/yg lain ok pula..yg 2 je masalahnya...

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aku pakai value mushkin 2Gb pastu OCZ SLI 2gb pastu OCZ reaper 4Gb pastu tukar crutial ballistic tracer 4GB..aku xrasa perubahan speed pun.

cuma OCZ reaper nmpk ganas then crutial tracer cantik byk lampu. bila bench OCZ sli markah byk..

kalau ada perubahan cepat 2 saat bkn rasa sgt..

watpe nak pakai 8Gb..4Gb pon dah cukup byk skrg. pasang 4 keping ram buat semak mobo dgn tambah heat and power consumption je. Edited by kbf

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QUOTE(kbf @ Dec 9 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
aku pakai value mushkin 2Gb pastu OCZ SLI 2gb pastu OCZ reaper 4Gb pastu tukar crutial ballistic tracer 4GB..aku xrasa perubahan speed pun.

cuma OCZ reaper nmpk ganas then crutial tracer cantik byk lampu. bila bench OCZ sli markah byk..

kalau ada perubahan cepat 2 saat bkn rasa sgt..

watpe nak pakai 8Gb..4Gb pon dah cukup byk skrg. pasang 4 keping ram buat semak mobo dgn tambah heat and power consumption je.


saja nak test sampai 8gb.....dah alang2 limitnya...mcm 2..guna sampai 8gb....lepas 2..guna kipas yg banyak...xpun..cari cooler...yg leh sejukkan...

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QUOTE(kbf @ Dec 9 2008, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
aku pakai value mushkin 2Gb pastu OCZ SLI 2gb pastu OCZ reaper 4Gb pastu tukar crutial ballistic tracer 4GB..aku xrasa perubahan speed pun.

cuma OCZ reaper nmpk ganas then crutial tracer cantik byk lampu. bila bench OCZ sli markah byk..

kalau ada perubahan cepat 2 saat bkn rasa sgt..

watpe nak pakai 8Gb..4Gb pon dah cukup byk skrg. pasang 4 keping ram buat semak mobo dgn tambah heat and power consumption je.


try 1ghz cl4...
run super pi 16mb...

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