luriahk 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2006 Am2 ni memory controller 800 ker??masa 939 mc 200 sekarang ni?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahmades 2 Report post Posted June 14, 2006 Takpe.Processor tuh takkan ubah impianku untuk dptkan conroe yang cambest tuh YEahhh... you roxx hitman.. still am2 masih fikiran aku jua untuk mendapatkan conroe.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2006 frankly, conroe memang power! bnyk benchmark yg unbiased (terbaru), conroe extreme edition beat sayur2 je FX-62. pergh!!! power siot! dah yg best lg COnRoE, dgn model core duo, harga memang mengancam! even core duo entreme edition max USD999 je. tu mmberikan ancaman kpd top-of-the-line processor dpd AMD, yg ada mncecah USD1500.menmbhkan ancaman lg kpd AMD, COnRoE akan launch bulan depan, 23hb Julai, dan Intel jgk mngumumkan reger baru (potongan harga) kpd sume model processornya, Pentium D dan Pentium 4. tp disbbkan reger PD dan P4 hanya lebih kurang dgn COnRoE, djngka model ini (COnRoE), demand akn jd tinggi giler. ape ancaman kpd AMD? sume model Intel ni adlh dual core! sdgkn reger tu sama dgn AMD single core, di mana X2, FX60 dan FX62 masih terlalu mahal!dan ape yg AMD nak buat? AMD akn umumkan harga baru jgk (potongan harga!) kpd sume processor diorg (stkt ni Athlon64, X2 dan Opteron xtau lagi) yg hampir 50%!!! pergh! best tu!!! dn pengumuman potongan hrga ni akan dibuat selepas Intel launch diorng punye COnRoE, iaitu pd 24hb Julai.ape lg best??? kita hrpkan je AMD akn turunkan reger jgk utk X2 dan Opteron. sbb Intel dh bleh bg murah utk dual core diorg. jd pedulikan dgn performance AM2, utk dual core, dah tentu lg best dpd single core Athlon64. so, x kisah la 939 lebih power dpd AM2, itu utk entry level A64 je. sbb kita pun akn shift ke dual core. maka performance akn jd lebih power!!!ape lagi, marilah kita bersama mengumpul duit, dan carik org utk jual sistem skg. okhokhokh...Alien vs. Predator - whoever wins, we lost...AMD vs. Intel - whoever wins, we still win!!!dan x sabar plak nak tunggu K8L... hehehe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WanR 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2006 persaingan yg best.. amd mesti kena turun rega, bleh angkut dual core la pas ni aku.. best skit keja aku convert2 movie.. skrg intel punya rm400+ dah dpt dual core. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pokyah 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) kalo amik AM2 mabo plak susah carik...urmmm...biar lama dulu..biar basi dulu...tapi mcm mana pun aku tatap menungu athlon X2 4400 = RM400++ ...heheheh...aku beli terus......hohoh Edited June 15, 2006 by pokyah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2006 tuela...aku lebih suka AMD ni jadi 2nd besh.... mcm zaman athlon xp vs northwood... bleh dptkan harga processor yang power cth dual core dlm harga yang murah.... anyway AMD x dok diam just lambat sket nak lawan...biasa la... ptong memotong... tunggu 65nm AMD baru harga bleh jatuh lagi...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2006 tuela...aku lebih suka AMD ni jadi 2nd besh.... mcm zaman athlon xp vs northwood... bleh dptkan harga processor yang power cth dual core dlm harga yang murah.... anyway AMD x dok diam just lambat sket nak lawan...biasa la... ptong memotong... tunggu 65nm AMD baru harga bleh jatuh lagi......tp dr segi business, AMD mgkin mghadapi masalah kewangan paling teruk, dan mmg diorang akn suffer dlm 6-12 bulan ni. ada yg kata AMD mgkin hmpir bankrap. tp org xkan biar je AMD bankrap, dan Intel pon xkan biarkan (utk mengelakkan monopoli).huhuhu... athlonium, ko nk tunggu smpai 65nm kuar? lama lg tu bang. roadmap AMD kmgkinan plh awal Q1 2007, plg lewat Q4 2007 dan lebih lewat. sbb situ la generasi K8L akan kuar, iaitu setahun lg selepas COnRoE kuar. buat masa ni, AMD mmg xbleh lawan COnRoE, sbb even Core Duo pun beat FX-62. Core Duo Extreme Edition mmg lg power gaban la. AMD xde cara lain selain terus mghasilkan X2, Opteron dan FX dgn 90nm SOI, utk clock yg lebih tinggi (sbnrnye lbh baik performance yg lebih power) dan sdikit demi sdikit menurunkan harga.reger processor Intel mulai bulan depan. Core 2 murah tu, lebih murah la bndng dgn X2... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 mcm mane AMD nak beat COnRoE? guna BIOS update je. wakakaka... mcm2 la AMD ni nak wat lawak. tp ni utk s-AM2 je la. tu pun kalau betul. ntah ye ntah x. kalau betul bagusla...BIOS Update AM2sumbernye adlh:AMD выпуÑтит "анти-Hyper-Threading" в Ñтом году: Ñекретное оружие Socket AM2Ещё в апреле Ñтого года поÑвилиÑÑŒ Ñлухи о том, что ÐºÐ¾Ð¼Ð¿Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ AMD разрабатывает технологию, обратную по Ñвоему дейÑтвию извеÑтной технологии Hyper-Threading от Intel. Ðапомним, что поÑледнÑÑ Ð¿Ð¾Ð·Ð²Ð¾Ð»Ñет одному процеÑÑору заменÑÑ‚ÑŒ Ñобой два виртуальных Ñдра, и разделÑÑ‚ÑŒ между Ñобой потоки данных. Intel отказалаÑÑŒ от дальнейшего Ñ€Ð°Ð·Ð²Ð¸Ñ‚Ð¸Ñ "виртуальной многоÑдерноÑти" в пользу реальной многоÑдерноÑти, но не иÑключает возможноÑти Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ñ€Ð¾Ð¶Ð´ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ñ‚Ð°ÐºÐ¾Ð¹ технологии в новом иÑполнении.По нашей ÑобÑтвенной информации, полученной от знакомых Ñ Ð¿Ð»Ð°Ð½Ð°Ð¼Ð¸ AMD иÑточников, уже в Ñтом году ÐºÐ¾Ð¼Ð¿Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð¾Ñ‚ÐºÑ€Ð¾ÐµÑ‚ доÑтуп к технологии, обратной по Ñвоему дейÑтвию Hyper-Threading. ЕÑли поÑледнÑÑ Ñ€Ð°Ð·Ð´ÐµÐ»Ñет реÑурÑÑ‹ одного физичеÑкого процеÑÑорного Ñдра, то ноу-хау AMD позволит объединÑÑ‚ÑŒ реÑурÑÑ‹ двух физичеÑких Ñдер Ð´Ð»Ñ ÑƒÑÐºÐ¾Ñ€ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð·Ð°Ð´Ð°Ñ‡, оптимально работающих на одноÑдерных процеÑÑорах. Ðапример, Ñто позволит удвоить количеÑтво декодеров, и "объединённый" процеÑÑор будет выполнÑÑ‚ÑŒ шеÑÑ‚ÑŒ инÑтрукций за такт. Ðто уже Ñамо по Ñебе может Ñтать неплохим ответом на выход процеÑÑоров Conroe, и дебют ÑоответÑтвующей технологии навернÑка ÑоÑтоитÑÑ Ð² канун 24 июлÑ.СоответÑÑ‚Ð²ÑƒÑŽÑ‰Ð°Ñ Ñ„ÑƒÐ½ÐºÑ†Ð¸Ð¾Ð½Ð°Ð»ÑŒÐ½Ð¾ÑÑ‚ÑŒ уже вÑтроена в двухъÑдерные процеÑÑоры Athlon 64 X2 в иÑполнении Socket AM2. Ð”Ð»Ñ ÐµÑ‘ активации понадобитÑÑ Ð»Ð¸ÑˆÑŒ обновить драйвер процеÑÑора и BIOS материнÑкой платы. ÐšÐ¾Ð¼Ð¿Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Microsoft должна выпуÑтить ÑоответÑтвующий патч Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¾Ð¿ÐµÑ€Ð°Ñ†Ð¸Ð¾Ð½Ð½Ñ‹Ñ… ÑиÑтем, который позволит воÑпринимать два Ñдра Athlon 64 X2 как одно. КÑтати, по предварительным данным, процеÑÑор Ñможет переключатьÑÑ Ð² "объединённый" режим динамичеÑки, в завиÑимоÑти от типа иÑпользуемого приложениÑ. Ðе Ñекрет, что многие задачи по-прежнему выигрывают от иÑÐ¿Ð¾Ð»ÑŒÐ·Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ñ€Ð¾Ð¸Ð·Ð²Ð¾Ð´Ð¸Ñ‚ÐµÐ»ÑŒÐ½Ñ‹Ñ… одноÑдерных процеÑÑоров, а не работающих на более низких чаÑтотах двухъÑдерных процеÑÑоров.Забавно, что Ñама AMD попутно будет заниматьÑÑ Ð¿Ð¾Ð¿ÑƒÐ»Ñризацией платформы 4x4, раÑÑчитанной на ÑнтузиаÑтов, не мыÑлÑщих Ñвоего ÑущеÑÑ‚Ð²Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð±ÐµÐ· многозадачноÑти. Ð¡ÑƒÐ´Ñ Ð¿Ð¾ вÑему, два доÑтаточно разных подхода будут разнеÑены по разным рыночным нишам. Во вÑÑком Ñлучае, возможноÑÑ‚ÑŒ "объединÑÑ‚ÑŒ" два Ñдра в одно виртуальное обойдётÑÑ Ð¾Ð±Ð»Ð°Ð´Ð°Ñ‚ÐµÐ»Ñм процеÑÑоров Athlon 64 X2 в иÑполнении Socket AM2 абÑолютно беÑплатно, еÑли не Ñчитать возможные затраты на Ñкачивание нового BIOS и драйвера Ð´Ð»Ñ Ð¾Ð¿ÐµÑ€Ð°Ñ†Ð¸Ð¾Ð½Ð½Ð¾Ð¹ ÑиÑтемы.Ðе Ñекрет, что включение технологии Hyper-Threading иногда вызывало Ñнижение производительноÑти, так как два виртуальных Ñдра начинали конфликтовать при попытке определить приоритет обработки потоков данных. Можно предположить, что антипод технологии Hyper-Threading от AMD позволит избежать таких доÑадных конфликтов, и даже повыÑит быÑтродейÑтвие ÑиÑтемы.По мере поÑÐ²Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð½Ð¾Ð²Ð¾Ð¹ информации об Ñтом ноу-хау AMD мы будем знакомить Ð²Ð°Ñ Ñ Ð½ÐµÐ¹ на Ñтраницах нашего Ñайта.ade sesapa paham bahasa Russia? tlg translate-kan. hehehe...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 yup aku mmg akan tunggu 65nm... tak silap aku Dec 2006 kuar Athlon X2 'brisbane' then AMD akan ramp up frequency utk on par performance ngan Conroe..... Q1 2007 camtue K8L...sbb PC yang skrang ni pon dah cukup power.... ala bende komp ni sejap je rasa... Athlon XP dulu pon kuar tahun 2001 skrang dah 2006... kalau athlon X2 turun mendadak mungkin la aku tukau yang tu dulu.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazor 1 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 .. kalau athlon X2 turun mendadak mungkin la aku tukau yang tu dulu....aku rase kalo turun mendadak pun mgkin ade skit Features yg kene cut utk turunkan Harga CTH cam Cache L2 atau Clock Speed..................... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 aku rase kalo turun mendadak pun mgkin ade skit Features yg kene cut utk turunkan Harga CTH cam Cache L2 atau Clock Speed.....................aku rasa AMD xkan tukar arch cpu diorang. nk bg lg murah, nak suruh org beli, tp performance drop, lg la xnak org beli...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazor 1 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 aku rasa AMD xkan tukar arch cpu diorang. nk bg lg murah, nak suruh org beli, tp performance drop, lg la xnak org beli......ye ke? .......tapi kalo betul pun ok gak..........ko rase Sempron Am2 nanti kluar cam mana?.......mesti pkai Dual channel memory controller kan?..............bleh beat AMD 64 4000++(s939) ke?.......kalo boleh beat.......he he he ......nanti aku beli satu........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2006 ye ke? .......tapi kalo betul pun ok gak..........ko rase Sempron Am2 nanti kluar cam mana?.......mesti pkai Dual channel memory controller kan?..............bleh beat AMD 64 4000++(s939) ke?.......kalo boleh beat.......he he he ......nanti aku beli satu........nak xnak mgkin la AMD kene psg spy Sempron support dual channel. & xkan boleh Sempron64 beat Athlon64. tu utk low cost system je, performance kurang. kalau bleh beat, sape jadah la plak nak beli A64. Sempron64 tu utk saing dgn Celeron (Prescott) je.mmg sume akan kuar dlm soket AM2 pun. soket 939 dah nk phase out dah. tp yg sedihnye, lum ade dgr Opteron 1-series tukar soket jgk. xdpt la guna Opteron camni...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
001x0 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) AMD выпуÑтит "анти-Hyper-Threading" в Ñтом году: Ñекретное оружие Socket AM2http://www.overclockers.ru/hardnews/22558.shtml[email protected], 18.06.2006 13:24, original text in Rusia, Rusia->English by babelfishAMD will let out "anti- -.Hyper-Threading" in this year: the secret weapon Socket AM2Lexagon / 18.06.2006 13:24 / references to the material / version for the pressEven during April of this year appeared rumors about the fact that company AMD develops the technology, reverse on its action of the known technology Hyper-Threading from Intel. Let us recall that the latter makes possible for one processor to substitute by itself two virtual nuclei, and to divide between themselves the flows of data. Intel forewent further development of "virtual mnogoyadernosti" in favor of real mnogoyadernosti, but it does not exclude the possibility of the revival of this technology in the new performance.According to our personal information, obtained from the familiar with plans AMD of sources, already in this year the company will open access to technology, reverse on its action Hyper-Threading. If the latter divides the resources of one physical processor nucleus, then know-how AMD will make it possible to unite the resources of two physical nuclei for accelerating the tasks, which optimally work on the mononuclear processors. For example, this will make it possible to double a quantity of decoders, and the "united" processor will carry out six instructions for time. This already by itself can become not bad answer to the output of processors Conroe, and the debut of the corresponding technology for sure takes place on the eve on 24 July.The corresponding functionality is already build it the binuclear processors Athlon 64 x2 in execution Socket AM2. For its activation it will be required to only renew the driver of processor and BASIC INPUT-OUTPUT SYSTEM of maternal pay. Company Microsoft must let out appropriate patch for the operating systems, which will make it possible to receive two nuclei Athlon 64 X2 as one. By the way, according to the preliminary data, processor will be able to be switched into the "united" regime dynamically, depending on the type of the utilized application. It is no secret that many tasks as before win from the use of productive mononuclear processors, while not working at the lower frequencies binuclear processors.It is amusing, which itself AMD will be simultaneously occupied by the popularization of platform 4x4, calculated for the enthusiasts, thinkers of its existence without mnogozadachnosti. Judging by everything, two sufficient different approach will be spread on the different market niches. In any case, the possibility "to unite" two nuclei into one virtual will manage to the possessors of processors Athlon 64 x2 in execution Socket AM2 absolutely free of charge, if we do not consider possible expenditures for running off new BASIC INPUT-OUTPUT SYSTEM driver for the operating system.It is no secret that the start of technology Hyper-Threading sometimes caused reduction in the productivity, since two virtual nuclei began to dispute with the attempt to determine the priority of processing the flows of data. It is possible to assume that the antipode of technology Hyper-Threading from AMD will make it possible to avoid such annoying conflicts, and even will increase the operating speed of system.In proportion to the appearance of new information about this know-how AMD we will acquaint you with it on the pages of our site. Edited June 22, 2006 by 001x0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2006 AM2 secret weapon... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32589 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajkr06 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2006 (edited) HUIHH...takut dengar persaingan antara INTEL dgn AMD ni. Saya rasa CPU yang dok pakai la ni dah cukuplah. Makin lama makin canggih. Tak mcm dulu. Dulu org guna Intel Pentium Celeron dgn AMD Duron je. Skrg , Intel Conroelah , AMD Sempron lah. Takut...takut...mengucap...he...he...he...(actually dengki sbb tak de duit nak tukar CONROE tu. Dlm hati nk sgt CPU Conroe tu.) So, nanti CPU Intel akn turun lah. Ingat nk ambik PEntium D lah. Pentium 4 tu pun dulu2 masa launch harga dia nak dekat seribu lebih kan. Pas tu turun jadi 500 lebih. Lepas tu turun sampai 300 lebih je skrg. Lepas Conroe kuar, P4 yg xde HT turun brapa ringgit plaklah. Nanti dlm tahun 2009 ke , Conroe tu turunlah jadi harag dia mungkn sma mcm P4 no Ht skg ni. RM300 lebih. Sabar jelah nk beli Conroe tu. Edited June 23, 2006 by Ajkr06 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truckster 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2006 wahhh aku ingatkan AMD dah boleh nak compete ngan INTEL conroe dengan keluarnya sckt AM2 & FX-62 nih.....rupa2nya x dpt lagi....nih musti ada strategy tertentu nih.....lagi satu brapa percent conroe beat FX-62 nih???It seems that all AM2 CPUs were outfitted with a support for Reverse-HyperThreading, an architectural change which enables software to think that it is working on a single-core alone. By combining two cores, the company has been able to produce the six IPC "core" that will go head to head against four IPC "core" from Conroe/Merom/WoodCrest combo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazor 1 Report post Posted June 24, 2006 nak xnak mgkin la AMD kene psg spy Sempron support dual channel. & xkan boleh Sempron64 beat Athlon64. tu utk low cost system je, performance kurang. kalau bleh beat, sape jadah la plak nak beli A64. Sempron64 tu utk saing dgn Celeron (Prescott) je.mmg sume akan kuar dlm soket AM2 pun. soket 939 dah nk phase out dah. tp yg sedihnye, lum ade dgr Opteron 1-series tukar soket jgk. xdpt la guna Opteron camni......aku jangkakan kalo AM2 sempron kluar......pastu kita pakai DDR2 dual channel..........kita bleh dapat 6.4Gb/ps bandwith memory throughtput kan?......utk sys low cost Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truckster 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2006 AMD memang akan launch socket AM2 sempron DDR2...nih ntuk compete ngan celly D.....kt mana source tuh ........google jap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2006 Lepas Conroe kuar, P4 yg xde HT turun brapa ringgit plaklah.mane ada dah Pentium 4 yg xde HT, skg ni sume processor Intel dah mmg ada HT. Pentium pun lepas ni dah xde dah. Intel dh muak kot dgn name Pentium tu. hehehe...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hampeh 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2006 hoho tunggu hujung tahun sikit bole dapat conroe lagi murah kot ... abih sume pakai conroe lak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2006 yes! yes! dan yes! skali lg.Opteron ada utk soket AM2... yes!Opteron S939 to be replaced with AM2... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2006 (edited) yang pakai socket F pon akan kuar.... Edited June 26, 2006 by athlonium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balthazor 1 Report post Posted June 26, 2006 yang pakai socket F pon akan kuar....itu yg quad-core kan?............kalo x silap aku ade 32 Processor in single chip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2006 soket F utk 2-series dgn 8-series. 1-series AM2 pun jd la, merasa jgk guna Opteron. tp reger Opteron, AMD x announce pun akn drop. huhuhu...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
