owner_ze 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2006 (edited) Salam semua...Dulu, seingat aku, aku pernah buka 1 thread pasal payment processor. Tujuan aku masa tu nak memahami payment processor sbb padanya lah kita meletakkan duit kita beratus-ratus dan beribu-ribu...Jadi, aku keluarkan balik isu ni sbb aku rasa ada relevensinya sekarang terutama dengan berita Egold disiasat oleh FBI...dalam artikel tersebut, ada menyatakan kemungkinan tindakan FBI terhadap Egold mungkin satu permulaan terhadap payment processor yang lain terutama yang sealiran dengan egold...Selaku seorang trader online, tentulah kita nak menghadam benda2 ni semua sebetul dan seadanya...since duit kita sedang berada dlm talian samada dlm PP, autosurf atau hyip...OK...aku tinggalkan link artikel tersebut---->>Gold RushTajuk :Gold Rush-Online payment systems like e-gold Ltd. are becoming the currency of choice for cybercrooks by business weekWokeih... Edited January 8, 2006 by owner_ze Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Ed_ 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2006 ni aku dah reply kat http://forum.putera.com/tanya/index.php?showtopic=16996&st=25 ok aku paste balikhttp://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...094.htm?chan=tcni citer di sebalik E-gold dari artikel nikesimpulan :1) e-gold galakkan anonymousity so boleh lure illegal activities2) artikel tu fully pasal ? pasal activity haram yang terlibat dengan gunakan e-gold ni ... bukannya pasal e-gold ni tak ok, tapi pasal orang2 yang guna egold ni ada di antara mereka yang memang pembelit3) ada jugak sangkut paut dengan war on terror, (dia wujudkan fobia terrorist guna egold utk transfer dana) rolleyes.gif4) e-gold (atau apa2 metal dalam bentuk electronic ni) dipercayai tak terlalu terdedah dengan inflation rate ngan exchange rate pasal ni kot, sebab emas kan susah sket nak speculate ?so e-gold dijangka akan menghadapi masalah legal di masa akan datang, at least terms & agreement nanti akan dirombak.What did happen, according to law enforcement officials, was that a pack of felons flocked to Jackson's brainchild. Sitting in an undecorated conference room in the Melbourne office three months before the federal raid, he acknowledged that he had a "six-inch pile" of subpoenas from such agencies as the FBI, the Securities & Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service -- all seeking information about some of his more suspect customers. Investigators say Jackson may have begun his quirky business with innocent intentions. But in recent years he has turned a blind eye, the officials say, to mounting evidence that e-gold has attracted a seamy clientele. The federal raid suggests that agents are intensifying their focus on e-gold and its potential criminal liability.Jackson didn't respond to messages after the raid. But earlier, he denied vehemently that he has looked away from crime. He said he responds as quickly as possible to official inquiries. He acknowledged, though, that his staff of 15 includes only one in-house investigator who struggles to keep up with all those subpoenas. E-gold has about 1.2 million funded accounts through which transactions worth $1.5 billion were conducted in 2005, he says. As for the idea that he should systematically monitor customer identities and money flows, he argues that's not his job: "We don't validate because we're unlike any other system."Federal officials reluctantly confirm this loophole: E-gold and other digital currencies don't neatly fit the definition of financial institutions covered by existing self-monitoring rules established under the Bank Secrecy Act and USA Patriot Act. "It's not like it's regulated by someone else; it's not regulated," says Mark Rasch, senior vice-president of the Internet security firm Solutionary Inc. and former head of the Justice Dept.'s computer crime unit. The Treasury Dept.'s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is studying ways to close the regulatory gap. Meanwhile, U.S. officials say e-gold and similar companies should voluntarily do more to deter crime.so sini nampak masalah egold ni pasal identity pengguna yang samar ni sebab egold nak terus ada transaction (niat transaction tu tak tau la) dalam sistem dia, bila ada transaction baru ada duit (perasan tak 15 orang pekerja ja dia ada, dah tu kalau dia charge 1% dari $1.5 billion == $15 juta tu ....egold dan banyak payment proc. lain tak terlampau ketat dalam register ahli sebab diorang ni bukan institusi kewangan yang sebenar, cuma tempat transact duit secara online.E-gold and a handful of rivals, including one called GoldMoney, were different. Their founders believed that tying monetary exchange to a strict gold standard would achieve greater economic stability. The Internet provided a ready venue for gold bugs the same way that it offered a soapbox to adherents of every other strain of thought. Jackson, an Army veteran and a graduate of Pennsylvania State University's medical school, was practicing oncology in Melbourne in the mid-1990s when he began reading about libertarianism and monetary theory. The married father of two adopted boys began to change his thinking. He scoured the works of libertarian novelist and philosopher Ayn Rand and was impressed by economist Friedrich A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom, an influential 1944 condemnation of government control of the economy. "It looked like a lot of the suffering of recent centuries -- some of the scale of wars, some of the economic dislocations -- could be traced back to credit cycles. And credit cycles could be traced back to monetary manipulation" by governments, Jackson says. "I was very moved by it."INTELLECTUAL CONVERSIONGold, he concluded, was the cure. The U.S. stopped tying the dollar to a fixed amount of gold in 1971. But Jackson and a friend, attorney Barry K. Downey, decided to start what amounted to their own gold-backed currency. Jackson liquidated retirement accounts and sold his medical practice to help raise an initial $900,000. A former colleague noticed him working on computer code around the clock at his stand-up doctor's desk. He often forgot to eat and lost weight. Along the way, he stopped attending church. Jackson confirms all this but stresses that he continued to provide excellent care for his patients until he bowed out of medicine completely in 1998.ni interesting, nampak tak apa yang founder egold support? penggunaan EMAS sebagai solution menyeluruh ... hmmm nampak cam sapa hah ? yang support2 emas ni ehehanyway aku tak minat semua ni cuma interested dengan gold, kalau ada problem dengan egold tinggalkan, sebab ni semua risiko, not worth to play kalau kita kecik .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 (edited) Ed_thix..thx 4 d komen itu...aku buka thread baru sbb yg tu thread 12DP...so aku pindah sini...ok tak....tp yg klakonyer Egold ni bab pekerjanya...15 org pekerja jer Egold ni...transaction ratus2 juta...sbb tu la kerja dorng ni senang...katakan account kita dihacked,atau kita tersilap bayo kat akaun org lain...dah x leh nak reverse blk...camne nak reverse...kakitangan 15 org jer...yg ada akaun egold ramai mane?Farid Esmith Emir kata...fikir-fikirkan la...sblm Egold ada problem...IntGold dah out dulu...tak sure la sbb ape...tp ikutkan forum2 international...mmg ramai yg rugi...duit hilang...bnyk lg PP mcm Egold ni...Ape jd pulak kat website2 jual beli egold...nogold dll...Sekadar timbulkan bberape kemungkinan, bukan sengaje menimbulkan rasa panik kat sini...hehe....Salam Aidil Adha utk semua... Edited January 9, 2006 by owner_ze Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkWan 3 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 Buat sementara ni, aku tade komen lagi tapi korang boleh baca la ucapan dari pengerusi e-gold berkenaan perkara ni.http://www.e-gold.com/letter.htmlBetul ke tak betul tu, wallahu a'lam. Aku melihat Stormpay sebagai alternatif aku di masa akan datang terutamanya pelaburan berjumlah besar. <- ceh. ckp mcm juta-juta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Ed_ 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2006 sebenarnya kalau aku tengokkan cerita e-gold ni aku rasa takde sangkut paut dengan scam cuma pihak berkuasa US tak berapa senang duit boleh travel melalui identity anonymous baru2 ni ada orang nak letupkan bom kat russia, dia demand kerajaan rusia masukkan ntah berapa juta dalam akaun egold dia ... ni sebab banyak banyak kerajaan tak berapa gemar duit travel dari tangan2 identiti anonymous.bab account kena [coklat ubat batuk], tu problem luas, kita kena sedar gak camana nak apply penggunaan password semua tu ... cam buat polisi password sensitif ni tak guna kat mana2 site lain kee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2006 sorry aku naikkan blk thread ni...dlu aku ada ckp intgold dah down...td aku jumpa ok plak...Egold aku still ok lagik...td br join satu program guna balance egold aku... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conroe 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 emmm....egold dh x leh guna(12 dp) terpaksalah guna Stormpay...EMO tuh msh baru...lom kukuh agih...kan guna EMO pastu wat hal...naye ,Stormpay nih byk gak kelebihan wlpn fee mhl,bape lama agih egold leh bertahan...x tahu le...pasnih program apa plak nk 'buang' egold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 emmm....egold dh x leh guna(12 dp) terpaksalah guna Stormpay...EMO tuh msh baru...lom kukuh agih...kan guna EMO pastu wat hal...naye ,Stormpay nih byk gak kelebihan wlpn fee mhl,bape lama agih egold leh bertahan...x tahu le...pasnih program apa plak nk 'buang' egold ←EMO masih baru?Wrong dude.EMO dah lama bertapak.Usia lagi tua compare Stormpay.Wokeh cuns !!~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sauron 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2006 nk tanye sket EMO tu erk...sori laa kalu tanye hehehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2006 EMO tu ape ke maksud ko tu?Electronic Money Orderhttps://www.emocorp.com/12DP guna sbg salah satu account paymentBoleh fund EMO guna Egold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conroe 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2006 EMO masih baru?Wrong dude.EMO dah lama bertapak.Usia lagi tua compare Stormpay.Wokeh cuns !!~←EMO dh lama rupenye...aku baru je refer web dia...aku tahu pesal EMO pon drp 12 dp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tasek16 82 Report post Posted January 18, 2006 Actally EMO dah lama since 1999...maybe masa tu tak ada autosurf / hyip so orang tak kenal.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
