arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 2.4Ghz/1m/533FSB 2.4Ghz/512k/800FSBAntara dua nih..bagi korang yang power tentang cpu nih..mane lebih hebat...aku ngah pening nih...skali tgk mmg same..tapi tak same power lak...tul ker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 aku lebih prefer yg 2nd.sbb?1. yg tu semestinya Northwood kan??so lebih sejuk.2. pastu die Hyper Threading3. FSB 800MHz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AsRaN ZaRa 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 aku setuju ngan sarge. 2 lg bagus. yg 1 tu presscott panas skit tp org ckp dia leh handle panas tu ntahla aku x pnah guna. yg 2 tu hyper threading C northwood. ht type C sume sejuk. cache x penting bg aku fsb lg penting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 tuela skrang dorang asyik main FSB ngan cache je...speed tang situ je....anyway aku pon setuju gak yang 2nd....half cache doesnt impact so much on performance....small impact lebih kurang dari 5%.... prescott panas bangat...tok sah lerr....banyak power leaking.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sache 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2005 Yg 1st tu laju, cam member aku pakai skrang. Tapi mmg panas, so terpaksa tukar hsf la.Yg 2nd sejuk, tapi x laju compare yg 1st. Kalu aku, angkat yg 1st, spend skit kat hsf. Mmg puas hati kalu pc dah laju. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vampire 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) prescott ade prob....(lebih baik pakai AMD64 je) northwood gk best.... 40c - 45c je... nk overclock pon senang.... Edited December 18, 2005 by vampire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 Yg 1st tu laju, cam member aku pakai skrang. Tapi mmg panas, so terpaksa tukar hsf la.Yg 2nd sejuk, tapi x laju compare yg 1st. Kalu aku, angkat yg 1st, spend skit kat hsf. Mmg puas hati kalu pc dah laju.←betul ker 1st lagi laju??sbb cache tu guna time2 tertentu jerk.FSB gune setiap masa.tul tak??selain dari suhu...power consumption pun lebih.so kalau PSU cap itik, agak berisiko la.so aku tetap akan pilih 2nd w/pun cache kecik sbb 1. suhu2. power consumption3. FSB. 1st tu 133MHz dan 2nd 200MHz.buleh run sync dgn ram DDR4004. HT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sache 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 Aku leh ckp dari pengalaman aku je. Secara statistik aku tak leh ckp la. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) 1. suhu2. power consumption3. FSB. 1st tu 133MHz dan 2nd 200MHz.buleh run sync dgn ram DDR4004. HThmm...aku pakai msi 865-PS Platinum edition...pc kedua aku lepas AMD hehe 1st aku masuk yang 2.4/1m/533FSB tu(prescott)..komp aku susah nak install window..kejap2 hang...aku tak tau sbb aper...mcm2 aku tukar..last2 tiada cara lain..aku ambik proc 2.4/512k/800FSB (bapak aku punyer) aku masuk kat mobo aku...boleh pun run..nasib baik komp bapak aku leh run pakai Cpu aku tuh...haha ..;lagpun tul ckp ko..800FSB ni leh run dgn DDR400...tp yang 533FSB ni tak stabil dgn DDR400...die kena DDR333 kebwh kan??tapi yang peliknyer..mobo aku sumer cpu die support (prescott ngan northwood)..mgkn aku kena tukar hsf agaknye kalo nak pakai 2.4/1m/533fsb tu eh.. Edited December 18, 2005 by arulsr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) yup prescott banyak problem.... then performance kureng sebenarnye...sbb bnyk throttling... bila panas tahap max ... dia akan throttling... seterusnya memberi impact kepada performance....so no 2 tu mmg pilihan... aku setuju dgn pendapat sarge..bila citer pasal prescott ni teringat balik aku kat AMD Prescott Survival Kit nih:http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modl...artid=31&page=1keh3..... Edited December 18, 2005 by athlonium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 HMM....mcmtuh rupnyer si presscott nih..adeih.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maf14 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 hmm..satu soalan...boleh x p4 yg no 2 tu masuk mPGA478 533fsb? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 yup....intel 90nm core yang recent ni semua banyak power leakage.. Xeon Dual core yang terbaru pon hotter ngan power consumption tinggi berbanding 90nm Opteron.... maybe 65nm atau 45nm intel dpt solve bende nih... AMD + IBM plak dijangka menggunakan new strained silicon technology utk 65nm (Silicon-Germanium (SiGe)) dan implemen lower dielectric constant (low-k) insulators...mostly utk AMD new socket AM2 processors... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 hmm..satu soalan...boleh x p4 yg no 2 tu masuk mPGA478 533fsb?←rasanya bleh...just tak dpt full frequency la ... sbb dia memerlukan base frequency of 200mhz.... manakala mPGA478 533fsb provide base frequency hanya 133mhz.... so 2.4Ghz 800fsb mempunyai multiplier 12x ... so bile ko masuk dlm mPGA478 533fsb nya board ko akan hanya dpt 133 x 12 = 1.5Ghz of speed...p/s: betulkan kalau aku salah... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) kirenyer 2.4Ghz 800Fsb tuh lebih baiklah eh..kan?? B)cuba tgk pic nih..cuba bandingkan 2 cpu punyer di bawah nih2.4Ghz/1m/533FSB Edited December 18, 2005 by arulsr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 2.4Ghz/512k/800FSBFSB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 lagpun tul ckp ko..800FSB ni leh run dgn DDR400...tp yang 533FSB ni tak stabil dgn DDR400...die kena DDR333 kebwh kan??tapi yang peliknyer..mobo aku sumer cpu die support (prescott ngan northwood)..mgkn aku kena tukar hsf agaknye kalo nak pakai 2.4/1m/533fsb tu eh..1. nope..tak jugak.tapi fsb dan ram run secara sync adalah lebih baik.sbb speed die sama.2. mobo ko memang la sapot.tapi ade la benda2 lain tak betul.contohnya BIOS, PSU etckirenyer 2.4Ghz 800Fsb tuh lebih baiklah eh..kan?? B)cuba tgk pic nih..cuba bandingkan 2 picture di bawah nihnak banding apo?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 1. nope..tak jugak.tapi fsb dan ram run secara sync adalah lebih baik.sbb speed die sama.2. mobo ko memang la sapot.tapi ade la benda2 lain tak betul.contohnya BIOS, PSU etcnak banding apo??←yerla..kan ade pic tuh..aku wat nilai dua proc tuh kat cpu-z Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 tah nak banding apo pon aku tak tau...mmg la prescott 90nm then voltage rendah tapi leaking power banyak so panas...then mmg la dia 1mb cache...tapi kekurangan dia 533fsb (133mhz base clock) .... so kalau ko pakai ram ddr400 pon ade bottleneck sbb dia async..tapi kalau aku ttp pilih northwood 800fsb tu....sbb bleh sync 200mhz DDR400 seperti yang sarge cakap tu.... dan base clock dia lagi tinggi dari... so pakai jela northwood bapak ko tu kat pc ko....lagipon bapak ko nya mobo mcm ngam ngan prescott tu...so biarkan jela... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maf14 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2005 so 2.4Ghz 800fsb mempunyai multiplier 12x ... so bile ko masuk dlm mPGA478 533fsb nya board ko akan hanya dpt 133 x 12 = 1.5Ghz of speed...oh kalo camtu effect kat performance la ye...aiseh br nk plan sumbat northwood kat mobo aku nihh...p/s: wess athlonium ko x tdo lg time ni? buat kajian lagi ker...hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 tah nak banding apo pon aku tak tau...mmg la prescott 90nm then voltage rendah tapi leaking power banyak so panas...then mmg la dia 1mb cache...tapi kekurangan dia 533fsb (133mhz base clock) .... so kalau ko pakai ram ddr400 pon ade bottleneck sbb dia async..tapi kalau aku ttp pilih northwood 800fsb tu....sbb bleh sync 200mhz DDR400 seperti yang sarge cakap tu.... dan base clock dia lagi tinggi dari... so pakai jela northwood bapak ko tu kat pc ko....lagipon bapak ko nya mobo mcm ngam ngan prescott tu...so biarkan jela...←oooh..orait-orait..haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 oh kalo camtu effect kat performance la ye...aiseh br nk plan sumbat northwood kat mobo aku nihh...←eh..pakai ar northwood tuh..800FSB tuh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 mmg la...tapi mobo dia tak supot 800fsb...tu yang dia tanya tu... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arulsr 5 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) mmg la...tapi mobo dia tak supot 800fsb...tu yang dia tanya tu...←ooohhh...patutlah..hmmm..nak buek camnoathlonium...kalo aku nak o/c leh tak...2.4ghz tuh ke 2.8ghz Edited December 19, 2005 by arulsr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) ko amik prescott 533fsb tu set ke 800fsb sure bleh...keh3....tapi tambah panas la... (cara ni DDR tu still 200mhz)kalau up fsb dari 533fsb... nnti ram nya speed pon naik sekali... ala ko pon terer overclock...anyway baik ko tanya user intel.... Edited December 19, 2005 by athlonium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites