smile4me 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 ko nk beli tuh kat mane?rege mcm kat atas tuh bole dpt AMD Barton 2500+..intel celeron D dikeluarkan oleh intel untuk meng'upgrade' celeron lame..Intel Celeron = 128kb (L2 cache) Intel Celeron D = 256kb (L2 cache) <--sama mcm sempronIntel P4 = 512kb/1M (L2 cache)L2 cache Celeron D ngan Sempron same..so this cpu cant beat P4 dan Barton..barton lawannye dgn p4.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 budget ko berape?untuk gaming ke multimedia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 budget den utk pc nih, around RM1400 je...kedekut sangat ke modal camni?... erm, tak leh lawan P4 langsung ke sempron ni?...sadis nye den...brape harge barton 2500 tu?...kalau barton 2500 tu, bleh beat P4 2.6 tak?...den perlu kan cadangan mu...maybe den nak tukar barton 2500 je kot...tapi, kena tau harganye dulu laa...processor yg den perlukan, maybe lebih kepada multimedia...gaming skit2 la kot...coz den minat main WORLD CUP 2002... ketinggalan den nih...den tau, utk multimedia, baik amik intel kan?...tapi, AMD pun, den raso ado yg support multimedia nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 AMD Barton 2500+ walaupun lock biasanya mudah utk cecah 3200+ (2.2Ghz) @ default Vcore...Tapi mobo kena best jugak laa...Utk AMD better guna mobo chipset nForce 2 Ultra 400.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 (edited) AMD Barton 2500+ bole OC skit smp jd 3200+..mcm si Hoodlums ckp..bole beat P4 2.6ghz klu OC smp 3200+..ko nk beli pc baru ke?monitor skali?aku rase dlm RM1600 ok kot.. Edited September 30, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2004 Yaps..Boleh run 3200+ dah cukup bagus dahh..Performance mantap!!Tak caya ker?Barton 3200+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 kesimpulannye, sempron nih, mmg tak leh diharap langsung la ek?...hu hu hu...kena la den cansel ngan kedai tuh...tak tau la deposit den hangus ke tak nanti...den mmg baru nak beli pc baru...lengkap ngan monitor skali laa...kalu barton 2500 tu sampai RM1600...maybe den kena lupe kan je laa...RM1400 tu pun den raso nak sengkek doh...erm, cam yg den dah bg tau...den tak minat OC ni...bukan ape...den raso OC ni bukan memain...salah OC, mau terbakar sistem den...tu la pasal den tak minat...kalau nak OC gok, kena la prepare ngan sistem yg maintain suhu nanti kan?...bajek lagi kena kuar tuh...tak sanggup den...cukup la kalu den guna processor yg standard je...takde badget maaa...kot la korang nak bagi cadangan lain kat den?...sbb dalam kpale den sekarang nih...maybe den nak guno P4 2.4 je...ade satu katalog tuh, dia kate leh dapat RM1370...tapi, motherboard cam ayam laa...ASROCK motherboard dia...tapi, maybe den tak nok guno motherboard nih...den idam kan ASUS... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 lupo den nak tanyo...slalu sangat den dengor cakap2 pasal mobo kat sini...mobo tu natang ape?...motherboard ke?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cermin 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 sekali lagi ingin dikatakan..yg sempron di klu nak compare hanyala ngn celeron D..apa yg aku baca ko punye post YEOP..nampak seperti ko bandingkan sempron ngn p4,so klu camtukesimpulannye, sempron nih, mmg tak leh diharap langsung la ek?... mugkin betul la...tapi klu ko bandingkan sempron ngn celly, tu mungkin tak betulla..tu pasal aku kata, baca dari 1st post..makud ko gune tuk multimedia tu, tengok movie, dengar lagu, main game la ea..klu takat tengok movie ngn dengar lagu mungkin sempron ngn celly D dah ckp utk memenuhi bajet ko tu..tapi klu main latest game mungkin sesak gak la..**yup mobo tu motherboard..***harap dapat jawap soalan n harap dapat buat research lagi...klu tak paham lagi sila tanya... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 thanks, cermin...ko byk menjawab soalan den...so, terbukti nyate, sempron ni mmg tak dapek memenuhi selera den...sbb, den perlukan kegunaan yg lebih tinggi lagi...multimedia tu, bukan takat tgk movie je...i'm create a multimedia presentation...like flash mx, swishzone, director mx, sound forge, photoshop 7...and some software else...like lightwave or maya...den gok nok gunakan pc nih as a web server...especially IIS and apache...coz, den nok guno kan ASP ngan PHP...termasuk PHP nuke...termasuk game bola world cup 2002... ...mostly, mmg den gunakan utk kebanyakkan projek yg melibatkan akademik...so, ko raso, mmg tak layak la sempron ni jadi teman den kan?...so, ko nak suggest kan den guno ape?...that's why dalam kpale den nok guno P4 2.4 je nih...kena ngan RAM 256DDR...den raso dah cukup doh tu...ape pendapat ko?...cukup tak bajek RM1400?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 budget spec:-AMD Barton 2500+ -Epox KM400 Integrated Graphic-256MB DDR433 Kingmax-40GB WD HDD-3.5 FDD-52x CD-Rom -15" Twinstar Digital-Benq PS/2 Keyboard + Benq Scroll Mouse-ATX Casin 400w-990w speakerrege = RM1288(anggaran)lepas tu,ikut ko la nk upgrade system nih.. p/s:sory klu x ikut citarasa ko.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cermin 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 pendapat aku?hold dulu duit ko...pastu kumpul lagi...pastu timbangkan la samaada nak angkat a64 atau p4 7** mende tah tak ingat kod intel tu... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 yeah ade betul ckp ko tuh..kumpul la duit lagi skit..dlm RM2000+..dh bole dpt AMD64 yg best.. skang nih dh ramai user yg berjinak ngan AMD64/LGA775.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 erm...nak hold lagi duit aku?...tak sanggup dah laa...banyak keje tak jalan nanti...byk gak keje aku nak buat gune komputer ni...nak buat laporan lagi...-AMD Barton 2500+ -Epox KM400 Integrated Graphic-256MB DDR433 Kingmax-40GB WD HDD-3.5 FDD-52x CD-Rom -15" Twinstar Digital-Benq PS/2 Keyboard + Benq Scroll Mouse-ATX Casin 400w-990w speakerrege = RM1288(anggaran)budget ni menarik...AMD barton 2500 ni, bleh beat P4 2.4 tak?...kalau takat P4 2.4 ni mudah2 je dia beat, baik aku gune barton yg tinggi skit lagi...eh, baru perasan...budget ni, tak masuk lagi ASUS ngan DVD rom...ni antara spec yg aku nak...monitor pun tak masuk lagi...mau lebih dari budget aku ni... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 (edited) AMD Barton 2500+ bole beat P4 2.4B senang je..kan ade monitor kat atas tuh..15" Monitor (cap Twinstar Digital)..yg lain² tuh ikut ko la..pada aku budget RM1400 tuh untuk budget yg paling murah bg AMD Barton..(dgn monitor) Edited October 1, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 eh, baru perasan...budget ni, tak masuk lagi ASUS ngan DVD rom...ni antara spec yg aku nak...monitor pun tak masuk lagi...mau lebih dari budget aku ni...aiseh...sorry maa...tak nampak monitor dah masuk skali...cantik gak budget ni...tapi kan, aku rasa cam lebih confident ngan intel plak sekarang ni...sebab dah terkena ngan sempron kan...bukan ape...ade kawan aku ni, guna P4 2.0 je, ngan ram 256+128...tapi, dia dapat buat satu presentation yg cukup power...3D presentation lagi tu...tapi, siap ade grafik card laa...tu tak kisah sgt...ade modal nanti, bleh upgrade je pc tu...so, buat masa ni, aku still ngan P4 2.4 lagi...kot la korang berjaya ubah persepsi aku kan... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 klu nk lebih kpd multimedia,better gune P4 je..AMD better for gaming..multimedia pun bole thn gak.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 (edited) -deleted-[double post] Edited October 1, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 kalu aku bagi camni, agak2 brape rege nye?...-AMD Barton 2500+ -Asus-256MB DDR433 Kingmax-40GB WD HDD-3.5 FDD-16x dvd-Rom -15" Twinstar Digital-Benq PS/2 Keyboard + Benq Scroll Mouse-ATX Casin 400w-990w speakerbrape anggaran ko ek? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 kalu aku bagi camni, agak2 brape rege nye?...-AMD Barton 2500+ -Asus-256MB DDR433 Kingmax-40GB WD HDD-3.5 FDD-16x dvd-Rom -15" Twinstar Digital-Benq PS/2 Keyboard + Benq Scroll Mouse-ATX Casin 400w-990w speakerbrape anggaran ko ek?←Asus ape tuh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Asus ape tuh? asus motherboard laa...kan tak de motherboard lagi dalam spec tu...aku ingat korang paham... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 (edited) aku tau la mobo Asus..tp yg mane satu?kan byk jenis..ASUS A7V400-MX VIA KM400A = same rege ngan Epox(onboard vga)klu ikut spec yg ko nak tuh,rege dlm RM1350(anggaran).. Edited October 1, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 Ko nak ambik P4 2.4A Ghz ker?Harga proc tu lagi mahal compare Barton 2600+!!P4 klo nak best cari mobo chipset Intel... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quakecon 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 (edited) kalo nak amik mobo onboard vga tu, elok amik yg onboard gf4 mx la, pasal s3 savage ni lembab sikit. itu pun kalo nko tak pakai graphic card la. Edited October 1, 2004 by quakecon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PETABITE 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2004 sebenarnya bro.. ko tak akan rasa beza sangat antara P4 2.4b, 2.66b, 2.4c, barton 2500+, barton 3200+, hatta barton 2.6GHz sekalipom! yg paling penting sekarang ni, ko kena tambahkan RAM, jadikan pc ko sekurang-kurangnya 256MB x 2, tak kesah la DDR266 ke, DDR 333 ke.. yg penting lebih dari 256MB..aku ada pakai AXP 2000+,ABIT VA10, 256MB DDR266 x 2, Sound, VGA, LAN onboard, VIA chipset... run 24/7... jarang OFF, kenkadang reboot.. setakat ni, nak burn cd ke, nak sharing file ke (file server), flash projek ke.. selamber badak jek jalan... tak lag pom..dan paling penting, nak tau power tak power, klik link kat bawah ni! :-)Jadi? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
