electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) muehehe...aku paste sekali lagi link dari microsoft press pasal RAM consumption di Windows Vista, see at the very bottom of the page dan tgk la apa lawak microsoft buat: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroo...staBeta1FS.mspxtak sangka juga, selain di putera.com, microsoft pun ada pendapat peribadi mengenai RAM consumption di OS yg doirang buat sendiri: Edited August 12, 2005 by electroboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitri_yazid 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 oit...minimum 512?hokhokhokohkohkohkkoi lepas kalo nak pakai......pikir dulu la....kalo nak install kene format dulu....movie tangah banyak dalam hdd nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitri_yazid 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 kena paham satu pasal nama ni.Client OS = Windows VistaServer OS = Windows Server Codename "Longhorn". Microsoft tak release apa2 nama lagi untuk server version. satu lagi, semua image tu aku snap dari Windows Server Codename "Longhorn". aku tak download pun vista sebab aku lebih minat ngan server version.Pasal RAM tu kau leh cakap tu pendapat peribadi kau since takde official statement, mungkin dia set 320Mb as min requirement, sapa tau, aku run ngan 1024Mb RDRAM aku, Longhorn ni lebih ringan dari Windows Server 2003 walaupun Longhorn ni run lebih banyak background application dari win2k3.←apa beza client ngan server?sama jer ker? ada beza ker?kalo ada beza dari segi mana tuh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marzuki 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2005 dia mesti guna ram 512.o..macamtuka...o.k byk benda aku tgh blaja nie..sorry kalo silap..electroboy tang mana aku nk stat berkenaan dgn server nie..?plus kalo ada mp3.din beramboi kasi gua k.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 benda tu tak official, kalau nak jadikan issue suke ati la. 512MB memang cun, tapi 320Mb pun leh run beta 1 cuma slow la. apapun aku tetap ngan 1Gb aku, so takde masalah la. aku rasa 512Mb akan jadi recommended, min maybe 256Mb or 320Mb. tah la.server ngan client memang la beza. kau amik Windows XP Pro vs Windows Server .Net 2003, tengok perbezaan dia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 hurm..minimun RAM requirement utk Windows for home userWindows 95 = 8MBWindows 98 = 16MBWindows ME = 32MBWindows XP = 64MBWindows Vista = Agak2 128MB ke? humm...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 8Mb je win95, hokhokhohko.... PC266Mhz aku dulu ade 32Mb je run win98.XP min 64Mb ke? aku ingat 128Mb, hokhokhokhohkoh...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 15, 2005 muehehe...setup installation windows xp akan halt jika dia detect RAM PC bawah 64MB...tp takkan nak pakai 64MB running win xp kot...win xp aku running pada RAM 256MB pun dah semput tahap giler...wakakakah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
civ3 9 Report post Posted August 16, 2005 muehehe...setup installation windows xp akan halt jika dia detect RAM PC bawah 64MB...tp takkan nak pakai 64MB running win xp kot...win xp aku running pada RAM 256MB pun dah semput tahap giler...wakakakah.. ←wahaha...samalah kita...running xp guna 256MB ....tapi tak rugi kalau kita letak RAM lebih...sebab kebanyakkan software dan OS yang terbaru mahukan requiement yang kaw²!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intel^centrino 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2005 (edited) bukan ka longhorn ni depa kata berat n security dia kurang..... Edited August 18, 2005 by intel^centrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted August 18, 2005 IMHO...buat masa skang kalau recomended 512 memory boleh dikira tinggi, lain la kalau 2-3 tahun lagi...jarang sgt nak cari pc kat pejabat2 yg pakai 512MB ram...home user blakang kira la sbb kebanyakan klon...Dan tak guna pakai keta kalau setakat bleh jalan kat jalan lurus, naik bukit takleh, selekoh takleh & jauh sekali buat drift....aku lebih rela pakai motor... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 19, 2005 longhorn skarang (Beta1) bukan pure longhorn.Vista still stand on WinXP Kernal.Longhorn Server still stand on Windows 2003 Kernal.avalon, indigo, aero sokmo tak masuk lagi. tunggu beta 2 tahun depan baru taui berat sebenar dia, maybe cecah tahap MadCat II kot (75 Tan dalam MachWorrior 4). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 20, 2005 satu lagi pertanyaan aku ialah... Vista dibuat based on .NET right, C# if i'm not mistaken. so adakah ia satu OS yang diporgram semula from scratch then jadi hardcore windows baru (cam Microsoft laburkan duit sebelum ini utk buat balik windows)... atau still pada core yang sama, iaitu based on previous version of windows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkWan 3 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 muehehe...setup installation windows xp akan halt jika dia detect RAM PC bawah 64MB...tp takkan nak pakai 64MB running win xp kot...win xp aku running pada RAM 256MB pun dah semput tahap giler...wakakakah.. ←windows 2000 yg 64MB. kalo amek MCSE tanya minimum RAM requirement utk Windows XP - jawapan dia 128MB. sbb ni yg Microsoft ckp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 windows 2000 yg 64MB. kalo amek MCSE tanya minimum RAM requirement utk Windows XP - jawapan dia 128MB. sbb ni yg Microsoft ckp ←la... apsal ada contra plak antara statement dlm website microsoft (kata 64MB minimum) dlm test MCSE, 128MB plak...? Iskh..pelik. Maybe dlm MCSE diorang ikut latest requirement demand agaknya.P/s: Ko MCSE certified ke Darkwan? Bahagian apa? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkWan 3 Report post Posted August 21, 2005 la... apsal ada contra plak antara statement dlm website microsoft (kata 64MB minimum) dlm test MCSE, 128MB plak...? Iskh..pelik. Maybe dlm MCSE diorang ikut latest requirement demand agaknya.P/s: Ko MCSE certified ke Darkwan? Bahagian apa?←Aku salah Ada beza MINIMUM REQUIREMENT dengan MINIMUM RECOMMENDED. Minimum requirement - 64MBMinimum requirement - 128MBPasal MCSE tu, aku dulu ada sesaje go through web-based training jadi aku penah jawab berkenaan RAM tu. Cuma aku fail to recall yg benda tu adalah minimum recommended dan bukannya minimum requirement. Btw, aku tak MCSE certified pun. Keje aku skang ni khusus utk sistem UNIX je. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 23, 2005 aku lupo lak nak report, sibuk banyak project skarang ni.sesapa yg pakai IE7 sama ada dalam longhorn or winXP, sure perasan yg ie7 include search toolbar. tapi sebelum ni aku tak perasan, ingatkan cam biasa dia pakai msn search, sekali semalam bosan2 aku merayau tengok, ruponye dia ade google, yahoo, aol, and few lagi search engine. just pilih search engine tu or set je jadi defaulr, se setiap search yg kau buat gunakan toolbar tu akan di lakukan dengan menggunakan search engine yg kau pilih. so tak perlu lagi install 3rd party toolbar and takde risiko kena hijact.image takde lak, aku tak sempat nak snap semalam, tengok la nanti aku snap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 23, 2005 aku lupo lak nak report, sibuk banyak project skarang ni.sesapa yg pakai IE7 sama ada dalam longhorn or winXP, sure perasan yg ie7 include search toolbar. tapi sebelum ni aku tak perasan, ingatkan cam biasa dia pakai msn search, sekali semalam bosan2 aku merayau tengok, ruponye dia ade google, yahoo, aol, and few lagi search engine. just pilih search engine tu or set je jadi defaulr, se setiap search yg kau buat gunakan toolbar tu akan di lakukan dengan menggunakan search engine yg kau pilih. so tak perlu lagi install 3rd party toolbar and takde risiko kena hijact.image takde lak, aku tak sempat nak snap semalam, tengok la nanti aku snap.←yup...mmg tepat sekali. tujuan MS buat gini supaya dia boleh lock toolbar di atas dan sekaligus mengelakkan spyware dari pasang toolbar diorang sendiri di IE.Ko busy ke? aku boleh snap kan, sbb mmg aku tgh gunakan IE7 di winxp. tp biarlah ko buat, nampak ekslusif skit dari ko Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 sila2, takde larangan utk share knowledge.haritu aku wat benchmark pakai PCMARK 2002, result dia equal ngan result yg aku dapat waktu pakai winXP Pro Sp1 dulu. beza dia pun +- 5% je, so leh la kira sama.tengok beta 2 nye result lak lepasni. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted August 25, 2005 Ok, sebab mus3na tak cite pasal installation dari boot dvd, so aku nak add sikit la ni.Ok, sebenarnya aku dan lanuncyber rancang sesama kami dan duduk sekali depan pc - dan kami baru je lepas install Windows Vista BETA 1 di komputer lanuncyber (satu hari aku download iso dvd di website ehem... ) dan kitorang create and install dari boot dvd.Generally, installation dia sememangnya amat2 mudah, even budak sekolah yg ada reti install game pun berkemampuan untuk install windows vista ni. Aku cerita secara kasar je... start install, dia hanya minta dua benda aja1. partition mana nak install (ada juga option format)2. computer name.Pastu "that's all we need to know" dan proses install terus berjalan sampai siap windows installed. mmg mudah, tak macam dulu, kena set time la, format partition la, setting network la..apa la... Cuma yang tak best nya indicator dia tak menunjukkan berapa lama nak siap (dan indicator dia cam lebih kurang nak install netscape, so susah skit nak determine berapa lama nak siap.)Yg lain-lain mmg ada banyak perubahan, dan yg paling ketara ialah dari segi istilah yg lebih user friendly dari windows xp.setakat ini mmg ada masalah dgn hardware driver conflict, walaupun driver tu baru download khas untuk windows vista beta. itu je review aku secara ringkas setakat ini. nanti aku explore lagi... aku cerita lagi. iskh...tinggal 29 hari je lagi sebelum expire..hehe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 indicator akan ada, tu beta 1, biasa la, nak test function dulu, make up nanti dalam beta 2.set time, date, GMT semua kena buat lepas installation siap. perasan lepas setup windows dia open satu list what to do next, refer list tu.Microsoft Windows Server Code Name "Longhorn" Beta 1 Initial Configuration Tasks Step-By-Step GuideMicrosoft CorporationPublished: July 2005Author: Trina HimmelmanEditor: Tina BladeWindows Server "Longhorn" Beta 1 Initial Configuration Tasks Step-By-Step Guide Initial Configuration Tasks is a new feature that is included in the beta 1 version of Microsoft® Windows Server™ Code Name “Longhorn.” Initial Configuration Tasks is designed to guide information technology (IT) administrators through the process of configuring a new server. What Is Initial Configuration Tasks?After Setup for Windows Server Code Name “Longhorn” is complete, Initial Configuration Tasks guides you through the procedures that are necessary to configure a new server (such as specifying the administrator password, the computer name, the domain, and server roles). Initial Configuration Tasks replaces the "Post-Setup Security Updates" feature that was introduced in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Initial Configuration Tasks extends the functionality of "Post-Setup Security Updates" by guiding you through all of the tasks you must complete to configure a new server, not just those tasks that are related to security. Who Should Use Initial Configuration Tasks?Initial Configuration Tasks can be useful to you if you are one of the following:• An IT planner or analyst who is evaluating Windows Server “Longhorn.”• An enterprise IT planner or designer.• An early adopter of Windows Server “Longhorn.”• An IT architect who is responsible for computer security throughout your organization.Benefits of Initial Configuration TasksThe primary benefit of Initial Configuration Tasks is that it gives you an easy, systematic way to complete important configuration tasks for a new server. After you complete these tasks, your server should be able to perform its intended server role (for example, as a file server or print server). Completing these tasks can also help enhance the security of your server.In This Guide• Initial Configuration Tasks Overview• Prerequisites for Using Initial Configuration Tasks• Configuring a New Server• Tasks You Can Perform in Initial Configuration Tasks• Sending Feedback and Logging Bugs• Additional ResourcesInitial Configuration Tasks OverviewWith Initial Configuration Tasks, it is much easier to configure a new server with Windows Server “Longhorn” than it was to do configure a new server with Windows Server 2003 operating systems. For example, during Setup, you are asked for only minimal information, such as product key information and an acceptance of the End-User License Agreement. After you have installed the operating system, you can then use Initial Configuration Tasks to configure the server. Setup assigns default values for other configurations unless you specify otherwise. For example, by default, network cards are configured to obtain an Internet Protocol (IP) address that is assigned by Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP). Also, by default, the server will be a member of a workgroup.Prerequisites for Using Initial Configuration TasksTo use Initial Configuration Tasks, you must be logged on to the computer as an administrator. When you first install the operating system, you will automatically be logged on as an administrator. Note: The administrator password will be blank until you configure it.Configuring a New ServerAfter Setup is complete, you will be automatically logged on to the computer, and Initial Configuration Tasks will start. You will then be able to configure the new server. Note: If you accidentally close Initial Configuration Tasks, log off and then log back on. Initial Configuration Tasks will open automatically. Tasks You Can Perform in Initial Configuration TasksThe following tables list and describe the configuration tasks that you can perform in Initial Configuration Tasks.Specify computer information DescriptionSpecify an administrator password (required) Set the Administrator password to help make your server more secure. Important: You should specify an administrator's password immediately. If you restart before you specify a password, the computer will automatically log you on as the administrator and open Initial Configuration Tasks. Configure networking Configure the network settings for this server. For example, you can configure settings that determine how the IP address is assigned.Specify computer name and domain Join the server to a domain, and give it a unique name. For the computer name and new domain to take effect, you must restart the computer.Set time zone Select the time zone for the server.Set regional and language options Customize settings for the display of languages, numbers, times, and dates.Activate this server You must activate this server within 14 days or some Windows features will stop working. Update this server DescriptionDownload and install the latest updates(This task is not available in the beta 1 version of this product.) Follow this link to the Windows Update Web site, where you can download and install critical updates. Enable Automatic Updates Configure automatic updates to ensure that your server always has the most recent security updates.Customize this server DescriptionAdd server roles Enable the roles you want the server to perform.Add optional components Enable optional components to extend the functionality of the server.Sending Feedback and Logging BugsYour feedback is very important to us because it can help us improve this feature in future releases of Windows Server “Longhorn.”Please send us feedback about your experience using this feature, the problems that you have encountered, and whether this guide was helpful. We would also appreciate your suggestions about how we can make this feature more useful. You can send your feedback about Initial Configuration Tasks to [email protected].When you log bugs, use the instructions on the Microsoft Connect Web site at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=49779.Additional ResourcesThe following resources provide additional information about Initial Task Configuration.• If you need product support for this feature, see the Microsoft Connect Web site at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=49779.• If you are a beta tester and part of the special Technology Adoption Program (TAP) beta program, you can also contact your appointed Microsoft development team member for assistance.• For more information about security, see the Microsoft Web site at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=8357. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted August 26, 2005 Display Drivers with LDDM Support Revision Date: 7/27/2005What is LDDM and what does this list represent?The following is a list of drivers that conform to the new LDDM driver model. LDDM is the next generation graphics infrastructure that allows more efficient sharing of the GPU and GPU memory and will also result in increased graphics stability.LDDM is also necessary for the new desktop effects such as transparent glass windows.This list is not finalized and is subject to change without notice. Support for devices will be added or removed and this document will not always be up to date. It is being provided to Techbeta customers in order help them identify what devices they have that may be supported in Beta 1.How to determine what Device I have?- In determining what the Name of the Device and its PNP ID are for the bug’s title;From the Longhorn installed system go to, START -> RUN -> dxdiag -> ENTER, Hit Yes to query for all signed devices, once the application opens, click the "Save All Information" button at the bottom and save the dxdiag.txt file to your desktop. Open this text file and "System Devices", this will bring you to the section listing the Device Name and PNP ID for all major system devices in your machine, navigate to the bottom of this section and look for "Video Controller" or "Standard VGA Graphics Adapter". This is what you list in the bug title when filing. NOTE: It's very important for you to also attach the dxdiag.txt file to the bug when filing it.Example:Name: Video ControllerDevice ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5B74&SUBSYS_01031002&REV_80\4&701F2C4&0&0108 [Note, you only need to list the first portion of this PNP ID string, the VEN and DEV sections in the bug title] If you have a safe build or another operating system installed on the same machine where the device in question is support and working properly (unlike in your Longhorn install), you can perform the same steps above to get the true Friendly name of the Device and the PNP ID. (This is not required but recommend when filing the bug) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ancient One 3 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 program nama debug tu wujud lagi ke? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted September 1, 2005 debug?? ke kau maksudkan IDW Tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admin2 12 Report post Posted September 2, 2005 Windows Vista ni pakai prosecor 64 bit je ke?? kalau 32 bit boleh tak?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
