misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2009 assalamualaikum.... im juz a simple person....kekurangan pengalaman...bley tolong tak...demi masa depan nih.... saye bru pas spm n now waiting for my result...decide nak amik medicine course....masalahnya...tak tau nak masuk asasi or matrics...tuk taun ni nye asasi perubatn after spm under upu tak banyak, yg penting UM,UKM,USM x de!btolke jalan nak msuk medicine course ni mesti msk matrics or stpm je...klu bley sye nak msk asasi upu tp sye confuse.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipcookies 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2009 hye2...setahu aku la kan sbnrnye byk care nak wat medic nie...contoh cm member aku die skrg amik ASASI SAINS UITM...so kalo pointer gempak bole la pursue medic...other way is also by g matrikulasi...pulun study..dpt 4.00...ade chance gak nak wat medic.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 1, 2009 QUOTE(misscurious @ Jan 1 2009, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>tak tau nak masuk asasi or matrics...tuk taun ni nye asasi perubatn after spm under upu tak banyak, yg penting UM,UKM,USM x de!btolke jalan nak msuk medicine course ni mesti msk matrics or stpm je...klu bley sye nak msk asasi upu tp sye confuse....Hi misscurious.If I were you , and were offered with those two options either Matrix or Asasi, I will go for Asasi ____ (whatever you wanna do).I am an ex-Asasi Undang-Undang (KPTM) before this and currently now I'm doing my first year Bachelor of Legal Studies (Hons.) in UiTM Shah Alam (main campus).Saya mempunyai beberapa orang rakan yang mengambil jurusan Asasi Sains dan beberapa lagi dalam Asasi Farmasi.. Kebanyakan mereka berjaya sambung Degree in Medic dan juga Pharmacy.Menjawab soalan saudari, berikut adalah beberapa info yang saya tahu mengenai Program Asasi terutamanya Perubatan (i will try:). Asasi adalah program persediaan universiti yg bertujuan untuk memenuhi pelajar-pelajar Bumiputera di IPTA. Berikut adalah kelebihan belajar di Asasi adalah 1. lebih "mudah" berbanding Form 6 dan Matrix. Seperti sedia maklum, Asasi hanya terbuka kepada pelajar Bumiputera terpilih yang mendapat keputusan yang cemerlang, namum demikian, setiap tahun jumlah pelajar yang ditawarkan tidak banyak.. Bergantung kepada Asasi yang u pilih, kalo amik asasi sains dekat uitm, last sem lebih kurang 200 orang ditempatkan disini dan dari jumlah itu sape2 yg dapat 3.8++ boleh sambung Medic/Pharmacy/Dentistry/Engineering ape2 yg diorang nak wat ... (sumber: kawan yg skarang tgh wat Medic)...2. blaja dekat universiti... pegi kampus same2 dengan budak degree.. blaja dengna lecturers yg ajar students fulltime... dapat rasa suasana universiti , tak macam budak2 form6 dok lagi pakai baju sekolah, tak macam budak2 matrix dok lagi kat "kolej matrikulasi ______" .. boleh boosts your self esteem to work hard so that you can stay.. 3. the best choice there is. undeniably, you cant get any other best option than this. of course, if you always have the dream to further your studies in Cambridge, Oxford etcs, then you should go to Form 6 or go do A-lvls in private uni. As for local uni, Asasi is the best choice and the right track for you to get your degree in Medicine compared to other paths that are still uncertain. Good luck. If you need anything, more infos etcs just ask okay. I once had this difficulties too in choosing either Form 6 or Matrix, but I got Asasi. haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 may i know...btol ke klu kite amik asasi kat uitm let says...kte bley continue study medic kat other u.... or whenever we take the asasi program in that u so that we needs to continue study in any course but still in the same u!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) QUOTE(misscurious @ Jan 2 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>may i know...btol ke klu kite amik asasi kat uitm let says...kte bley continue study medic kat other u.... or whenever we take the asasi program in that u so that we needs to continue study in any course but still in the same u!!! Currently in Malaysia, as far as I know there are three IPTA that offers Asasi programmes which are UM (PASUM) http://asasi.um.edu.my/show.php?key=Kemasukan , UITM (Asasi) http://www1.uitm.edu.my/index.php?option=c...6&Itemid=30 and UIA (Foundation) http://www.iiu.edu.my/asasi/So, in answering your question, I will say that it depends on which Asasi that you have been offered. You really have to double-check again with UPU people before assuring your choices because I am myself not sure of the current status of both programmes offered, but be quick and assured. But as far as I know, if you get Asasi Sains UiTM, you will further your study in UiTM. Same goes to IIU Foundation. Make sure your results meets the CRITERIA of the courses that you want to do. The computerize system doesn't have any mercy. I've seen my friends not getting courses that they want because they did not get the required result to get through. I know this may sound cruel, but if you really have good result that is not a fool-proof that you'll be offered. UPU have quotas each year on how many admission for each courses that they want to take. Example, if in 2009 the gov. feels that they are not much lawyers around, they will increase the quotas for admission for Asasi Undang-Undang. Same goes for Medic etcs. So it is not stagnant. Believe me, I was in the same situation as you were before. Maybe the nature of the course is very much different, but I am very certain that the dilemma is quite similar. Whatever it is, no pressure, and make rational choice that will change your life forever! #edit-1 below are some of the previous discussions that might help you deciding..http://forum.putera.com/tanya/t37268.html Lepasan Matriks(kpm) N Asasi, boleh gne ke mtrx or asasi tuk g oversea??http://forum.putera.com/tanya/t58941.html Mane Lebih Baik? Pasum Ke Asasi Uitm?, pasum ke uitm asasi?? Edited January 2, 2009 by izwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 thanks a lot izwan...your information really help me to make a desicion...maybe this will be the other question that need your help...if there was a chance for me to pursue my study in medicine, is it only the student from asasi sains can pursue their study in medicine course.... n let says i got the chance to further my syudy in asasi UM (pasum), perhaps... can i continue my degree in the other university which not offered any asasi program such as UKM, USM n ect....after i refer to the refrense, is it the only chance to study in oversea is opened or offered for those SPM candidates n the chance to study in oversea is bigger when we use the SPM result.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE(misscurious @ Jan 2 2009, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thanks a lot izwan...your information really help me to make a desicion...maybe this will be the other question that need your help...if there was a chance for me to pursue my study in medicine, is it only the student from asasi sains can pursue their study in medicine course.... n let says i got the chance to further my syudy in asasi UM (pasum), perhaps... can i continue my degree in the other university which not offered any asasi program such as UKM, USM n ect....after i refer to the refrense, is it the only chance to study in oversea is opened or offered for those SPM candidates n the chance to study in oversea is bigger when we use the SPM result.. No worries, i was in the same shoes as you are in right now in making decision that will change your forever, haha kidding. anyways, in answering your questions..As far as I know, Asasi Sains is a very general subject where you will learn Math, Biology, Physics, Chemistry . Quite similar like in Matrix I guess. It's just that you're studying it with very senior lecturers teaching Degree university students (or very young graduate lecturers! DEPENDS!). And of course, not to forget, during the course of study too, you will take your MUET. Upon finishing the course of study, you will be able to further your studies in various fields related to sciences like Pharmacy, Medic or even Engineering and others that related to it.As for PASUM, I am not very sure though. You might want to call them up and confirm with how things goes there of the current policies.Answering your question of whether or not one can further abroad with SPM result, I have to say I am myself not very sure about this. Currently two majors sponsors are of course JPA and MARA. I have also been told in some discussions that MARA usually picks students from MARA boarding schools to be admitted in their programme, not sure though. There have been cases of students from Asasi getting really excellent results in first semester, where lecturers will approach to you and ask whether you wanna further your study abroad (in my case was an ex-asasi undang2 offered to Cambridge to do his Law), and he said yes.. but he had to prove that he is up for it by getting good results in final semester too.. and he made it. .. I believe it is possible, as my friend did it too,.. get good results, get offer from the uni, and get sponsored/loan from somewhere like JPA to further your studies.Finally, you have to research more on opinions of people in making your decision, not just me. (This is my disclaimer lol!) Try this one too http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/655483Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipcookies 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 There have been cases of students from Asasi getting really excellent results in first semester, where lecturers will approach to you and ask whether you wanna further your study abroad (in my case was an ex-asasi undang2 offered to Cambridge to do his Law), and he said yes.. but he had to prove that he is up for it by getting good results in final semester too.. and he made it. .. I believe it is possible, as my friend did it too,.. get good results, get offer from the uni, and get sponsored/loan from somewhere like JPA to further your studies.to izwan...is it true that from this asasi undang2 programme,we can be offered into study abroad?..cuz i am from this programme as well and i never know about it before...when u say excellent results,what is the standard that needed?...i mean do we need to get excellent pointer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE(chipcookies @ Jan 2 2009, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There have been cases of students from Asasi getting really excellent results in first semester, where lecturers will approach to you and ask whether you wanna further your study abroad (in my case was an ex-asasi undang2 offered to Cambridge to do his Law), and he said yes.. but he had to prove that he is up for it by getting good results in final semester too.. and he made it. .. I believe it is possible, as my friend did it too,.. get good results, get offer from the uni, and get sponsored/loan from somewhere like JPA to further your studies.to izwan...is it true that from this asasi undang2 programme,we can be offered into study abroad?..cuz i am from this programme as well and i never know about it before...when u say excellent results,what is the standard that needed?...i mean do we need to get excellent pointer?Well, I can't really be certain about this too as it is not written at all in any paper. As rarely as it maybe, it is on case by case basis I guess. If you can perform and get 4 flat or be the best student for the first semester, the lecturer will come to you and ask whether you want to further studies abroad. If you say yes, the Law Faculty will write a formal application to recommend you to further your studies abroad, may it be Kent or even Cambridge, if you're that good of course. Why not?As I've stated earlier, it is very rare as it is run on case by case basis, and not written, conventions perhaps? Well, anything is possible nowadays. As long you want it so badly... try your best. I did not get any offer at all for my UPU. But I wrote a letter to UPU people requesting to review my application over again for the appeal intake. I explained how much I love Law, my passions in doing it, and why I deserved the appeal instead of other people. I believe most of my batch at that time won't write an appeal letter because majority at that time felt that it is computerized thus appeal letter is just unnecessary and waste of time. But it isn't. I got the appeal and got admitted to Asasi Undang-Undang 2 weeks after they have already started their classes already. So what? I'm doing my first year in Bachelor of Legal Studies (Hons.) now in UiTM despites those people who started their classes early doing Business courses in other unis or other courses.To the thread starter, never stops, and try your best. As the saying goes, Winners Never Quit and Quitter Never Wins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cqwerty 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 ambk matrixbg aq lalagipon byk bende leh bljar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE(ekey @ Jan 3 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ambk matrixbg aq lalagipon byk bende leh bljarWell, it of course depends on the individual himself. Say, matric, ko kene compete dekat Matric (hampir 50 ribu orang?), berbanding Asasi (seribu? tak sampai 2 ribu pun), less competition equals to high probability in furthering your study.. and jangan lupa, asasi is in university environment, blaja dengan lecturers yg berpengalaman yg ajar budak2 Medic sendirik, etcs. tak macam matrix , lecturers yg mengajar situ pun penah belajar dekat situ juga beberapa tahun sebelumnya kan To say "banyak bende leh blajar" kat matrix, is a complete fallacy in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2009 i'm were one of the student from MARA boarding school and had being offered to attented interview for SPC program(Skim Pelajar Cemerlang) last disember n now still waiting for the result... i make a desicion on to take the program which MARA will send their student to RUSSIA to take medicine course...for your information there are only 2 choices that being offered for those student who want to further their study on medicine field...is either go to RUSSIA or stay in MALAYSIA n study at UiTM....actually before that interview i had did some survey n research on the university that i will go if i got the chance perhaps... but what dissapointed me is almost people said that the doctor from Russia is disqualified in Malaysia....it is true????? n what do you thing if you were me!!!another question is......what do you thing about this statement..." lecturer always discourage their student especially in medicine course for the most university such as UKM" is it true??????before that thank you for everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 3, 2009 im confused, kenapa kerajaan nak spend berjuta2 for a student antar pegi Russia buat Medic bila last skali graduate takleh nak practice kat Malaysia? i think, you should go and check directly with accredition website and look whether it is really recognised or it isn't. if i were you, i'll go for the medic programme in russia if i get offered, if i didn't , i'll go for medic programme in uitm instead. either way, i still get to do medic, which is the right track where i wanna me in my life. dear misscurious, you're still in a state of dilemma, where whenever people say something to you, without supporting with any supporting details or evidence, you take it as a legitimate testimonials (which is not of course). in legal terms we call it 'hearsay'. you have to find out yourself the authenticity of those arguments. i am not sure why lecturers specifically discouraging its students to do meds in UKM. i abstain from commenting on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irma_blurr 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2009 eyh~ bukan ke kat um @ uiam ada asasi sains hayat? kan bley pergi kat situ? it's up to you kalo nak amik medic but as a matric student now... i advice you kalo u rasa yang u can go along with the syllibus dalam masa yang cepat...duk lah matrik..jalan cepat nak gi u... tapi kalo rasa nak memain dulu..better jangan..duk matrik ni..serious..u risk ur future..sapa yang memang betul2 bagus je better gi matrik...or kalo susah sangat... why dun't apply scholarship gi mesir study medic kat sana..ada je budak mlysia gi mesir..and yes...qualified pun sama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kertasputih 1 Report post Posted January 3, 2009 Bagi asasi, kalau nak lanjutkan pengajian ke IPTA dalam bidang perubatan misscurious boleh pilih program asasi sains hayat di UM/UiTM, kat UIA, pon ade tapi nama program dia lain sikit. Kalau tak silap kolej uni islam m'sia(IIUM) de asasi perubatan. Kalau dapat tawaran, selalunya memang akan teruskan pengajian kat uni yang sama untuk ijazah.matriks pulak, saya tiada pengalaman tapi kawan-kawan memang cakap hidup kat sana memang sangat2 sibuk, memenatkan dan stress. Tapi walau camnepun, kalau nak berjaya memang takde jalan mudah. regarding SPC thingy, i suppose da results shud be out by jan..yeah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2009 yup! it wiil be out by this Jan!!! for the SPC program.........means that student in asasi ni tak tededah ngan pressure kew...............bukan ke ianya same study in matric or asasi????asasi ni same ke ngan diploma???help me plezzzzz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izwan 1 Report post Posted January 4, 2009 asasi = cam a-level tapi die cuma approve kat IPTA sahaja..diploma = diplomaerm, pasal pressure tu, student mana2 pun terdedah kepada pressure oke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misscurious 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 hello... one question from me...may i?btul ke sume dak medicine tak de yang amik diploma?????means after spm amik pasum, asasi, matric, or form 6...sebenarnye ape beza diploma n asasi...alamak confused lagi.... whateva pon thanks for the response!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
holster47 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2009 asasi is a program which provided from the univ you will enter.diploma is a certificate lower than degree,take around 2~3 years to complete any diploma course.to make things clear for you..UPSR<PMR<SPM<sijil2<diploma/matrik/asasi/STPM/<degree<master<doctoratecorrect me if there is any mistake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akumegumi 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2009 QUOTE(misscurious @ Jan 21 2009, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>btul ke sume dak medicine tak de yang amik diploma?????well,,yg I know,,bukan ke UITM ade diploma sains??tapi I don't know whether u can get a place 4 mdcne course wit it,, means after spm amik pasum, asasi, matric, or form 6...sebenarnye ape beza diploma n asasi...diploma means u hv 2 cmplte ur stdy 4 bout 3 yearsasasi means u just hv a year or 1 1/2 year b4 continue your degree n 4 asasi u hv 2 get cgpa yg dorang nak if u wanna continue in the same course 4 ur degree,,let say u amek engin n min cgpa uni nak is 3.75,,so u hv 2 get 3.75 n above 2 get an engin programme at uni yg u wat asasi programme or else u akan dapat course lain la,,,lbih kurang cam 2 la,,correct me if I'm wrongbcoz this is what my lecturer told me b4..(I'm in asasi programme as well) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
