Am A Mara Student

[Lip 0]

im a MARA student under SPC SPM '06 for medicine program. i went to MSU in Shah Alam for my foundation where im actually targetin India to sambung doing my medicine degree there. but my CGPA was slightly terrible where i got around 3.51 & i was sent to Universitas Hasanuddin, Makassar Indonesia. & everybody else with 3.53 & above went to India. but before that, those yang dapat CGPA between 3.50 ~ 3.52 kna ambik entrance test for Indonesia punye U (of thats how i got into this Universitas Hasanuddin) i passed & here i am. but those who failed that test got to be in India OH GOD (=. =!).. (Manipal & IMS as the options.) & i was teribbly keciiwa. i shud have left kosong je that paper. anyway, its been like 3 months now & i just cant keep up with everything around. i fall sick often, i dont focus in class, i dont really go to class actually, i skip tutorial & everything! i repeat the last 2 block nyer exam. & i think i need to do sumthing but i just cants study in this environment.. English is so not comprehensible around here & they dont have English books on market... making things harder for me. So what im asking is, is there any possible way for me to swap back into Malaysia or any other places where i can continue my medicine without dropping my MARA scholarship, cos my parent just cant afford on anything to it. i never even tell 'em wat im going tru right now, cos theyll be sick runsingging on me & more thinking of my friends kt India, id be more sick to stay on like this. So, is there anyway that i cud swap back in Malaysia & continue my Medicine without any critical reason like sakit serius without dropping the MARA scholarship? or is there any way that i cud change my course without dropping that MARA thing as well. sigh~

lame me. i cud use some help.

[comebeing 0]

im a MARA student under SPC SPM '06 for medicine program. i went to MSU in Shah Alam for my foundation where im actually targetin India to sambung doing my medicine degree there. but my CGPA was slightly terrible where i got around 3.51 & i was sent to Universitas Hasanuddin, Makassar Indonesia. & everybody else with 3.53 & above went to India. but before that, those yang dapat CGPA between 3.50 ~ 3.52 kna ambik entrance test for Indonesia punye U (of thats how i got into this Universitas Hasanuddin) i passed & here i am. but those who failed that test got to be in India OH GOD (=. =!).. (Manipal & IMS as the options.) & i was teribbly keciiwa. i shud have left kosong je that paper. anyway, its been like 3 months now & i just cant keep up with everything around. i fall sick often, i dont focus in class, i dont really go to class actually, i skip tutorial & everything! i repeat the last 2 block nyer exam. & i think i need to do sumthing but i just cants study in this environment.. English is so not comprehensible around here & they dont have English books on market... making things harder for me. So what im asking is, is there any possible way for me to swap back into Malaysia or any other places where i can continue my medicine without dropping my MARA scholarship, cos my parent just cant afford on anything to it. i never even tell 'em wat im going tru right now, cos theyll be sick runsingging on me & more thinking of my friends kt India, id be more sick to stay on like this. So, is there anyway that i cud swap back in Malaysia & continue my Medicine without any critical reason like sakit serius without dropping the MARA scholarship? or is there any way that i cud change my course without dropping that MARA thing as well. sigh~

lame me. i cud use some help.

sadisnya cite aku rsa ko kena discuss ngan MARA lah abt this matter...ko kena btau apa yg sejujurnya ko alami & rasa kt sana ...ko kena explain & bagi alasan2 yg munasabah..aku rasa dorang boleh consider..

[sementara_waktu 0]

1st of all.... congratulations....

2ndly.....do u think it is culture shock?? Indonesia might be a neighbouring country..... but it's totally different isn't it??

it's only the first 3 months dear.....
it doesn't really matter where u study...... u would still be a doctor...... all the same
and i believe MARA wouldn't send student to places that is not recognized by the gov.....

do you have any friends over there?? how are they keeping??
i know u didn't get the univ that u want...... it is not all different than malaysian education system.... you can ask anyone here.... whether they got their first choice to do their degree..... i bet at least 1/2 will say no...... well.. i'm sure u know the story better than i am......

my advice is that... talk to your friends and tell them what u felt..... i do believe they have the same problem as you are.... u are in a foreign land, ur friends are the only family u would have, if u have seniors.... ask them how they cope. there is no problem without a solution.
And plz.... go to your classes...... skipping classes is not going to help u.........it will only make u feel worst

if u cannot go jugak..... try la tanyer pihak MARA... leh tak masuk university kat mesia, tp rasenyer IPTS la... cam IMU dan yg sewaktu dgnnyer...rase cam susah sket kot.... tp no harm if u ask.....

lastly.... patience is virtue..... jgn ikut emosi sgt..... give the place a chance first....... before u regret..... kita memang ske merancang, Allah yg tentukan..... tp percayalah, have faith in yourself.... apa sj yg berlaku pada kita, adalah yg terbaik untuk diri kita........mungkin kita tak nampak kebaikannya skrg, mungkin kemudian.....

[Raja_Kayangan 0]

aku rase ape yg ko rase skang ni adalah disebabkan ko rase tak puas ati sbb ko tak dpt pe yg ko nak.....and kekecewaan ko tak dpt gi India....
Aku penah dulu, aku x dpt pe yg aku nak , aku apply tukar course, tak dpt...and sbg tanda protes, aku wat cam aku takleh carry some of the subjects, 1st semester aku dpt 2.02..then after that, aku realised that akuMERUGIKAN DIRI SENDIRI....Ko penah dengar tak org kate, if YOU CANT GO AGAINST THEM, JOIN THEM! aku pakai ayat tu, and bangkit dari keegoan dan kebodohan diri, aku habiskan degree aku ngan 3.92
Di mana ada kemahuan, di situ ade jalan. sebenarnye ko bleh wat, u r not the first student fm Malaysianyg belajar kat situ...kalo others can do it...ape kurang nya diri ko...
Lupakan je India, lupakan kawan2 kat India, buangkan rase sakit ati, kikiskan rase tak puas ati...BESYUKUR NGAN PELUANG YANG KAU ADE SEKARANG. Sekali ko buang peluang yg, it wont come back, my friend..PERCAYALAH...

[Lip 0]

thanks guys. but i cud care less about the culture shock, ive been in 2 MRSM for five years & went to MSU a year & i never had problem on anything to it, it had never been like this. i dont demand a better place like a more proper facilities bcos i know where i stand. this is a poor miskin country & they admit it themselves. i cud walk the sludgy paves to campus even if it means a 15 minute walking & other stupid life experience, but that is not wat matter. the thing is, for international class, they either give 3 options. consume English, Bahasa Indonesia or Japanese. but their English is so much worse that;

Student: oh uv been in Japan? for how long?
Lecturer: 5 years & almost my family are there
Student: So you got a PR, permanent residential?
Lecturer: NO! no PR, i got a PhD.
Student: =.= !

that is not even the most basic part of english errors u cud have ever listen to in this place. & how cud i tell an epitel gempeng bertanduk is a keratinized simple squamous epithelium? oh God! people prefer alot more Indonesia rather than English here, but lucky them they comprehend Pancasila. but i just cant understand? how cud i know a Pressure with depths in water equals to "pgh" & not "Patm + pgh" like wat i studied in high scool & matriculations? & i failed that paper bcouse most of that particular topic. i cant even study all by myself here, because everything comes in exam are from them & they want it their way. no need for extra info cos it makes no different. & with that tahap of teaching, i cant cope up. well maybe others can because they probably are ready for Indonesia since the very start. but what MARA told me is that, this is going to be an English mediumd. arghh! and another thing is, they have kredit hours on the hand of Indonesian seniors. there's this one time they made sesi orientasi on Sat & Sunday from 615 am to 7pm on both. they give us food & suruh habiskan ayam by SUCKING them within 5 seconds, habiskan sayur then air. & then baru start sentuh nasik & last SEDUT sambal yg provided. & lap tgn kotor tu on your friends heads. & this kind of orientasi is going to last for 2 months MINIMUM who knows. but i had enough of that. im not going to any more stupid events theyre doing under those many credit hour pun kalo diorang nk gertak. cos im stress. i am in great stress. that i failed the next paper wic took place just on the following day. & for those 2 days, i didnt sleep, everyone didnt sleep cos we got homeworkSS from these Indonesian seniors. can u imagine, balik je kul 7 malam, we gotta finish a 2 pages of 16 essays & submit tomorrow befor 615 am?. the indonesian student from our batch lagi teruk cos they have to ketik them, the essays, dgn mesin ketik tu. zap zap zap zap. so i repeated the test & i got 70.5 of wic deserve an A but remedial student paling high pun is just a B. so there goes a B wic means a 3.00. nothing intermediate like 3.50 or watsoever. sigh~ theres no point talking to friends because we all cant do anything about it. but people are not born the same you know. people can stand such a huge stress but it doesnt mean everyone can. cause i cant. now im skipping the all the sesi orientasi of wic they called "Perkaderan". Just bullshits encouraging "mahasiswa" to make demonstrasi in Public & have war among themselves. Mahasiswa are having wars in Indonesia between themselves, i mean between faculty or u or watever, do u know that? they called it tawuran or something. try google it & ull find. people even got killed. i dont even see wats the purpose there. Kan bagus kalau goverment dpt taw, cos on that very agreement, those yg joint any political based event camtu akan dihtr balik ke M'sia on the spot! i miss m'sia so much.

again, i can skip all those bullshit & i can find myself a time utk tenangkan diri. it wudnt be a problem in time. but how on earth do i cope with such a study environment? i dont know. they dont have English books anywhere around so i import la some from m'sia thou it means brapa ratus ringgit nk post. but at the end of the day, its not gonna make use after all because they only take their answers & additional info doest give u marks because they just dont understand 'em.

& guys, i think all i can do is just mengeluh in this page, coz i just told my parent & guess what they told me? they felt kecewa because i dont even have initiative to find a gud reason to stay & ffine, they'll cagar everything utk byr loan mara if i insist nk balik m'sia gak. i guess they dont really like it that way. of wic it means i have to stay. tq guys for ur concern. & my advise to everyone ~ love m'sia! theres no no place EVER like home. Edited November 22, 2008 by Lip

[sementara_waktu 0]

in this kind of situation...... all i can say to u is..... whatever happens, expect the worst.... then u wouldn't be too disappointed.....
u sound like you are on the verge of giving it all up.......plz don't.....
one thing i notice about u is that u kept blaming everyone around u.... don't....

don't ever think ur 5 years experience in MRSM is enuf..... it's not
no matter how prepared u think u are to live in another country..... it will always caught u by surprise.....
same goes for your friends...... u would need every bit of support from your friends and u have to be supportive to them as well....
that is how it's gonna work...... otherwise u won't be able to get over it......
trust me every single friend of yours felt the same..... u are not alone over there..... that is the most important thing.....

ur heart is not made of glass..... it could take life knocks and fall..... just like others
you are a clever, fit, young, healthy person who are going to be able to take in anything life throws at u...... and u are not going to give up

if u look at it on the +ve side.....they purposely put u under a lot of stress mayb to tell u how tough it is to be a doctor...... doctors don't usually get enuf time to eat..... the job would keep u on your toes...... too much to do, too little time.....

btw.... it is going to be over (or is it over yet? i'm confused)...... how prolonged could an orientation be.....
as u put it.... u have to do it anyway..... might as well get used to it n excel in it.........alang2 menyeluk pekasam....
obviously u have to learn indonesian language to blend in.... right?? just like studying in Russia or Germany... or France or India..... you have to know the languages....... otherwise u'll be lost in translation... hehe

sorry, i've probably said sth harsh unintentionally........ u actually sound like my sister... she loves to complaint as well.....
but no harm done so far..... i hope it will get better in time......

[Lip 0]

ala xkn sister kott.. but anyway my parents coming to Makassar this weekend.. tq everyone for ur supportive posts~ sigh

[holster47 0]

i could feel how TS feel.
the feeling of giving up,the feeling of disappointments.

adakah disebabkan indonesia sebuah negara yang kurang maju berbanding malaysia maka TS pn dengan sedikit rasa ego tak mahu mendalami istilah2 yg digunakan dalam kurikulum?
telan sude...

eh...dak2 mara yg pergi ke india tu sepatutnya pergi ke poland kan?

[Lip 0]

i could feel how TS feel.
the feeling of giving up,the feeling of disappointments.

adakah disebabkan indonesia sebuah negara yang kurang maju berbanding malaysia maka TS pn dengan sedikit rasa ego tak mahu mendalami istilah2 yg digunakan dalam kurikulum?
telan sude...

eh...dak2 mara yg pergi ke india tu sepatutnya pergi ke poland kan?

TS? xde ah, kalo ikut contract, those yg buat foundation kt MSU get to be in Poland, Czech, India or Indonesia. tapi kununnya Indonesia t is a longshot cos MSU is trying to loose the link antara2 U kt Indo. But still MARA demand utk htr jugak beberapa org ke Indonesia. So, around 140 org sumthing fly ke India & theres 7 of us dtg ke Maassar. adelah beberapa org dpt offer g Poland & Czech. Begitulah Alkisahnye. Still, TS?

[caffeine3x 0]

TS? xde ah, kalo ikut contract, those yg buat foundation kt MSU get to be in Poland, Czech, India or Indonesia. tapi kununnya Indonesia t is a longshot cos MSU is trying to loose the link antara2 U kt Indo. But still MARA demand utk htr jugak beberapa org ke Indonesia. So, around 140 org sumthing fly ke India & theres 7 of us dtg ke Maassar. adelah beberapa org dpt offer g Poland & Czech. Begitulah Alkisahnye. Still, TS?

TS = Topic Starter kan??

[Lip 0]

Oooo. Ok, but then i have to admit yg i do have even the slightest chance of being egoistic. Actually bahasa perantaraan diorng & malaysians are just about the same je, well except the scientific part lah.. cos itll went all nonsense. maybe i was too hanging on my stress & emo & i started to feel like everythings are just wrong.. mungkin, but i dunno. i just dunno wat else to do. Emo je setiap hari is very not healthy.. even my sis pun dh warn not to get gila.. Sigh~

[sementara_waktu 0]

have to admit.... optimal amount of stress could be a driving force to success....
however.... excessive stress could be harmful....... physically and mentally....

when u have a problem... of course u are allowed to complaint.... at least i think so
but do try to sit down, relax and think about it... try to get around it if u cannot solve the problem

trying to get into a med school is tough enough.... yet u did it!!
it's not really the place that matter....
it's how u respond to ur new environment... or ur attitude towards a new place that matter most ...
tp cakap mmg senang.... berat mata memandang, berat lagi bahu memikul..
nway...jgn putus asa yer..... every cloud has a silver lining...

[mohamad anuar bin othman 0]

mara nin pinjaman, bukan biasaswa, terbaru 2012 dari mara under spc, semua pinjaman kena bayar minimum 10% bergantung kepada result, result terbaik baya 10%, kalau teruk kena bayar lebih. ims msu banglore pinjam 600 ribu kena bayar minimum 60 ribu. ireland pinjam 1.6 juta kena bayar 160 ribu. keluar jadi doktor gaji berapa sen sangat kena bayar begitu banyak. ptptn pun boleh ubah jadi biasiswa tapi mara tiada. fikir2 kan lah sesiapa nak pinjam mara.