killerwhale 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 1 g...aku tgok perfomance ram da mcm2 jnis...cam kat bwah ni....5-5-5-124-4-4-125-5-5-15mna 1 yg lbh laju???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zamzama 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 aku rasa lebih baik ko bertanya dlm 2-3 jam lagikerana otai2 semuanya sibuk berbuka dan nx terawikh... hihi...sebenarnya aku sendiri pun tengah menunggu jawapan dari mereka.ramai yg berkata 4-4-4-12 the best...apa2 hal pun...tunggu otai2 berkata nanti...maybe sbb no dia sket... huhu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerwhale 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 maybe sbb no dia sket... huhux fham la... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackerzs 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 x fham la...Aku pOn pningla...Xphm gak!Otai2 tlg jelaskan... :wacko: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DigIT 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 4-4-4-12 lagi laju...sebab tight timing,umm gitu la lebih kurang..Kalu xberminat main OC,xpayah pikir pasal ni.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeryxz' 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 (edited) apa yang aku paham dr sifu2 oc..timing ram ni dalam format - CL, Trcd, Trp, Tras i.e. 4-4-4-12[option ni dlm bios]CAS Latency (CL) - effect kt performanceRAS to CAS delay (Trcd) - effect kt performance, lagi tinggi untuk stabilityRAS precharge (Trp) - kurang effect on performanceMinimum RAS active time (Tras) sgt2 kurang effect on performancelagi laju performance = lower timings = tighter timings = LOWER value- 3-3-3-8 lagi laju dr 4-4-4-8 lagi laju dari 4-5-5-9 lagi laju dari 5-5-5-15Slower performance = higher timings = looser timings = HIGHER value- e.g. 5-5-5-15apa yg membezakan value ram dgn performance ram adalah dr segi kemampuan utk oc tinggi2.. bykkn baca thread oc kt lyn.. byk guideline yg best2..p/s - tq kt hoodlums sbb ajar aku oc,timings,vcore bla2.. mmg sifu yg best Edited September 16, 2008 by aeryxz' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meons 0 Report post Posted September 16, 2008 4-4-4-12 lagi laju...sebab tight timing,umm gitu la lebih kurang..Kalu xberminat main OC,xpayah pikir pasal ni..ha tol tuu 4.4.4.12 laju lagi..buai laju2 sampai pkok sena...aa sambung2 ...nyayi plak ko detail kan ram yg ko maksud kan tuu..cth brand ram tuu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerwhale 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2008 ha tol tuu 4.4.4.12 laju lagi..buai laju2 sampai pkok sena...aa sambung2 ...nyayi plak ko detail kan ram yg ko maksud kan tuu..cth brand ram tuuCorsair >Twin 2X 2048-6400C5DHX DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 2GB >Twin 2X 2048-6400 DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 2GBKingston HYPER-X DDR2 800 >KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 2GB >KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 2GBda perbezaan x ngn value ram....dr segi klajuan??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2008 1 g...aku tgok perfomance ram da mcm2 jnis...cam kat bwah ni....5-5-5-124-4-4-125-5-5-15mna 1 yg lbh laju????Ok katakan ada 3 jenis RAM speed sama 800MHz cuma timing yg berbeza seperti di atas, yg paling laju semestinya 4-4-4-12.5-5-5-15 ni biasa digunakan utk dapatkan speed RAM yg lebih tinggi utk lebih bandwidth, contoh 1066MHz 5-5-5-15.So sila jawab soalan ni, 800MHz 4-4-4-12 vs 1066MHz 5-5-5-15, which better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zamzama 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2008 x fham la...aku pon x reti sgt...yg aku tau lg rendah timing lg bagus...hahaha....kalau kite gune pc utk men game.. perlu x gune perf ram??ada kenaikan performance kat pc kite x kalu kite x oc tp gun perf ram....??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syawalkomstar 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 kalu performance ram aku rase utk main game paling best,cam kingston hyper x?(betul x ni,aku hentam je) ataupun nak buat editing yang giler2 cam buat animasi, tak tau r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) 1 g...aku tgok perfomance ram da mcm2 jnis...cam kat bwah ni....5-5-5-124-4-4-125-5-5-15mna 1 yg lbh laju????aeryxz' dah citer secara detail.. cume tertinggal lagi pasal COmmand Rate (blh cek dlm CPU-Z kalau tak jumpe kat BIOS)..yg ni pun biasenya ade 1T, 2T & 3Tkalau tak paham ape yg aeryxz' cakap..tak payah nak pening2. Timing = Time = Masa. So timing ni blh katekan mase utk ram tu respond. So lagi rendah maksudnya lagi cepat la kan? Dlm timing ni kita ade macam2 la. Yg paling amat terpenting skali ialah CAS Latency (CL)..Makin kecik CL ni, makin laju la respond ram tu. Sbb tu biasenya HP ram, CL4 bukan CL5. Dari cth di atas, sudah pasti yg plg best ialah CL yg plg kecik iaitu CL4..yg dua2 CL5 tu bagi aku same jerk w/pun Tras tak same..TAPI dgn syarat speed dan saiz samaKesimpulan dari aku. W.pun sehebat mane timing ko, takkan blh lawan saiz ram yg lebih besar dan speed yg lebih laju 2x2gb CL5 800MHz > 2x1gb CL5 1066MHz > 2 x 1gb CL4 800Mhz > 2 x 512mb CL4 1066MHzrasenya dah blh jawab soalan Hoodlums tu kan? Edited September 18, 2008 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerwhale 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 aeryxz' dah citer secara detail.. cume tertinggal lagi pasal COmmand Rate (blh cek dlm CPU-Z kalau tak jumpe kat BIOS)..yg ni pun biasenya ade 1T, 2T & 3Tkalau tak paham ape yg aeryxz' cakap..tak payah nak pening2. Timing = Time = Masa. So timing ni blh katekan mase utk ram tu respond. So lagi rendah maksudnya lagi cepat la kan? Dlm timing ni kita ade macam2 la. Yg paling amat terpenting skali ialah CAS Latency (CL)..Makin kecik CL ni, makin laju la respond ram tu. Sbb tu biasenya HP ram, CL4 bukan CL5. Dari cth di atas, sudah pasti yg plg best ialah CL yg plg kecik iaitu CL4..yg dua2 CL5 tu bagi aku same jerk w/pun Tras tak same..TAPI dgn syarat speed dan saiz samaKesimpulan dari aku. W.pun sehebat mane timing ko, takkan blh lawan saiz ram yg lebih besar dan speed yg lebih laju 2x2gb CL5 800MHz > 2x1gb CL5 1066MHz > 2 x 1gb CL4 800Mhz > 2 x 512mb CL4 1066MHzrasenya dah blh jawab soalan Hoodlums tu kan? CL5 2 per????CL4???x fham g.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtheatre 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 CL5 2 per????CL4???x fham g....www.google.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alif Hezrey 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 CL tu apa?aku pakai dua ram,256mb ddr CL 2.5,512mb ddr CL 3,x pe kalau lain2 CL dia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dtheatre 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 owh,,, itu senang saja... klik link ni Penerangan Tentang Cas Latency Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arinc 2 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) Bro Hoodlums tanya...800MHz 4-4-4-12 vs 1066MHz 5-5-5-15, which better?jadi berdasarkn penjelasn Bro Sarge...jawapnnya...1066MHz 5-5-5-15 lagi bagus/laju dari 800MHz 4-4-4-12...btol kan?sbb Bro Sarge terang CL x penting klo nk lawan Size & Speed...mesti menang kat Size yg besar & Speed yg tinggi walaupon CL tandingan tu tight...btol x Bro2 sekalian?jadi bagaimana pulak dengan FSB:DRAM...?ade yg ckp 1:1 is better...bab ni aku x faham...ade yg ckp FSB tu kna selari ngan speed RAM...ntah aku keliru lg ngan multiplier ni ( Formula )...mgkn ada Otai yg bleh bantu skit kot...hehe Edited September 18, 2008 by Arinc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondclow 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) bb Bro Sarge terang CL x penting klo nk lawan Size & Speed.nope!sbb Bro Sarge terang CL x penting klo nk lawan Speed dan bukannya size.... size x memainkan peranan dlm timing RAM @ speedyes!CL - TRCD - TRP - TRASlet's do some Add Math 3-4-4-10 CL34-4-4-12 CL45-5-5-15 CL5100MHz = 10ns800MHz = 1.25ns1066MHz = 0.93nsThe lower the CAS latency (given the same clock speed), the less time it takes to fetch data from it. So in novice terms, 'the lower CAS latency, the better it is.from wikipediaCL5 800MHz = 5 * 1.25ns = 6.25nsCL5 1066MHz = 5 * 0.93 = 4.65nsCL4 800MHz = 4 * 1.25ns = 5nsCL4 1066MHz = 4 * 0.93ns = 3.72nsso conclusion aku pulak mcm ni~CL5 800MHz > CL4 800MHz > CL5 1066MHz > CL4 1066MHzdan ye...conclusion aku mengatakan speed memainkan peranan utama selain CL (Cas Latency) dan bukannya SIZE Edited September 18, 2008 by diamondclow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killerwhale 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2008 trima ksih kpda suma yg mmban2....p aku nk pndngn korg la...akunyer proc amd athlonx2 5000+ 2.6ghz...mobo asus m2n-e..pnah try oc skali under mobo....p nek smpai 2.8 jer...nk oc pon da mlas...sapa2 pnah wat smpi nek lbih???pengguna m2n-e la....adakh patot aku bli performance ram???taw amik jer value ram???tgok performance ram siap ngn heatsink lg....trign gak nk amik...tq... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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