troikasix 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2007 Mula-mula buat program pakai Excel VBA. - File excel aku slalu "Insufficient Memory".Pastu aku guna MS Access VBA 2000/2003. - Banyak problem dengan dia punya event trigger. Tempat aku taknak trigger, sibuk dia trigger. Angin satu badan aku jadinyer.Pastu aku buat sistem pakai C++ dgn MFC. - Dapatler 5-6 projek yang mendatangkan hasilThen aku buat program pakai Java lak.- CUSTOMER AKU LARI. CAKAP AKU PUNYA PROGRAM BERAT/SLOW (connect database). MAKAN MEMORY MACAM NAK GILER...Sekarang aku balik ke C++. Adios. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spoket 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2007 Bukan Java yg masalah, diri ko yg ada problem mgkn design ko cikai.. ambik satu cth jer Maybank2u dah berkurun pakai java diguna oleh berjuta2 org.. ok jer.. baik ko muhasabah diri ko balik. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ayoi 1 Report post Posted August 25, 2007 yup betul java memang power.. cuma salah design memang cam hampeh....dan semua lang sama jer ..ada power tersendiri..... dan ada limit sendiri.so nak design sesuatu software tengok requirment ler... setakat satu building using applicaition base... kalau public baru le java with apa apa lah php asp .net ajx, py,aku pun tak mahir lam programmer nie. dari bidang hardware aku lompat ke network so sekarang baru nak lompat ke software design... dari pengalaman.. flow chart tu penting....adios Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troikasix 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Heh, heh,Sajer ngacau kat forum ni. Nak tengok junkie and fanatic kata aper..Aku mmg berminat gak dgn Java nih. Maklumlah. Mak bapak aku orang Jawa. Nak cakap "Java is my mother tounge".Tapi footprint dia mmg besar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unexistance 3 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 1. sebab ko tak read byte-by-byte, agak nye ko read sekaligus masuk memory, konfem dapat error macam tu2. tau event-bubbling tak? (aku pakai term DOM)3. try la cross-platform nye toolkit lak 4. java memang berat, tu pasal kat desktop, java memang kureng...tapi server jangan main2 alaa semua bergantung kat design ko, nak speed / extensibility / cepat siap?apa kate ko try jython (backend java) atau python (backend C = sangat2 laju)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spoket 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Bukan takat code java saja, zaman JEE ni kena implement design pattern.. cuba try Hibernate..http://www.hibernate.org/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
budaknakal 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 1. sebab ko tak read byte-by-byte, agak nye ko read sekaligus masuk memory, konfem dapat error macam tu2. tau event-bubbling tak? (aku pakai term DOM)3. try la cross-platform nye toolkit lak 4. java memang berat, tu pasal kat desktop, java memang kureng...tapi server jangan main2 alaa semua bergantung kat design ko, nak speed / extensibility / cepat siap?apa kate ko try jython (backend java) atau python (backend C = sangat2 laju)?huh...betol sgt2!!aku sokong 200% ape yg ko ckp..hehee..ape yg aku nk ckp unexistance dah ckp..huh.! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) Aku rasa dia cakap pasal desktop/windows based tu, memang ada logic Java org tak berapa suka utk Windows base application sbb GUI dia agak berat dan kurang stable dlm Windows OS. (Kalau Visual C++/MFC atau .NET memang perfect match dgn Windows OS). Kalau Web atau melibatkan server yg berat2 memang JAVA power.... Edited August 27, 2007 by ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SHiDi 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Bukan takat code java saja, zaman JEE ni kena implement design pattern.. cuba try Hibernate..http://www.hibernate.org/Hibernate memang hebat bila nak deal dengan database. Tukar je dialect terus boleh guna. Tapi ada masanya boleh memeningkan kepala. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyler86 0 Report post Posted August 27, 2007 Heh, heh,Sajer ngacau kat forum ni. Nak tengok junkie and fanatic kata aper..Aku mmg berminat gak dgn Java nih. Maklumlah. Mak bapak aku orang Jawa. Nak cakap "Java is my mother tounge".Tapi footprint dia mmg besar.wahh...hebat btul ko..aku blajan java brkurun2 x pnah pndai...klu camtu aku pn nk kawen ngan org jawa... p/s..footprint ape yg besar? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troikasix 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Footprint tu tapak kaki. Program kan "running"/dilarikan, kena ada kaki. Tapak kaki program. Dlm ertikata lain, installation size dgn memory requirement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
encik pot pet 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2007 aku bukan nak kondem java ke apa, tapi program java on windows memang berat even utk simple gui. baru2 ni aku nak try guna jedit - http://www.jedit.org/ and kalau korang compare dgn editor yg tidak menggunakan java seperti notepad++ atau ultraedit memang jauh beza. lepas tu semakin berat hasrat aku nak meneroka dunia java. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aNtWar The SileNcEr 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 saje nak nyebuk sini =p...korang ni kerja ngan orang ker? ade syarikat sendri?..korang yang power2 java ni x berminat ker nak bukak syarikat sendiri?aku yg lom grad ni cam berminat nak bukak syarkat sendri heheye la maklum la keje makan gaji sampai bile pon x kayebukan nak kutuk korang yang makan gaji ekso nak tanye korang yang dah keje ni tul ker org cakap banyk company2 kat malaysia ni bnyk outsource ke lua tuk sistem2 diorg...??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alwajdi 1 Report post Posted August 29, 2007 maybe ko buat byk sgt open/close connection ke database.overhead tinggi tu pasal telan byk memory..mcm yg yg forumer lain2 ni cakap..try blaja pakai hibernate..insyaAllah ok..(bgantung pada design ko jgk la) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
