AriB 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2007 Haloo aku nak tanye sikit soalan ke anak anakan nie naper mase aku beli ram same speed ngan memory tapi sekepeing ram tu ade 8 chip yang lagi satu tu ade 16 chip!?? sesiape boleh gitau tak!?? trima kasih Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2007 erm...aku pn de msalah yg sama.. aku baru bli ram jugak.... ram lama aku ada 16 cip.. yg baru nih(Mushkin) ada 8 jer.. why? p/s: sory MR.AriB coz tmpang topic ko..huhu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Encik_Trojan_Horses 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2007 erm...aku pn de msalah yg sama.. aku baru bli ram jugak.... ram lama aku ada 16 cip.. yg baru nih(Mushkin) ada 8 jer.. why? p/s: sory MR.AriB coz tmpang topic ko..huhusetiap 1 cip tu ade MB sendiri... Maybe 32/64/128/256 X (output diperlukan)... ia di set mengikut compeni cip dan kilang pengeluar ram.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2007 haloo..ok, ok, thx la sebab bagitaulagi satu aku nak tanye kalau cam aku gune kedue2 ram tu satu 8 chip ngan satu lagi 16 chip ade kemungkinan ke nnt akan buat masalah??oh bdy mister tony yusoff takpe kalau tumpang asal jangan keluar topik dah!~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zieraq 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) tak kisah pun mana 8 ke 16 chip yg penting SPD value dia. Edited August 17, 2007 by zieraq Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2007 erm..thanks MR.wbr_4044... MR.AriB...aku pakai RAM yg lama ni 512(cap Ayam)... 553 MHz...then pcfair baru2 nih aku berkenan lak tmbah RAM...so aku pickup..Mushkin(enhanced kata penjualnye huhu)...yg 653MHz(klu slh betulkan)... then aku sumbat Mushkin tu dkt Slot 1...cap ayam slot 2... aku runkan....ok je....compatible(kata penjual tu lagi klu x compatible dia nk bwa turun banner Mushkin tu huhu)... aku test sume Illustrator...Battlefield.... sume jln ok...Tapi tula...chipp x sama...huhu...jnji bleh run....kan..kan...kan....erm...MR.zieraq bleh explain skit x tntang SPD tu?...p/s: huhu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2007 halorr semuer.....Kaching! allaaa ram aku yang 16chip tu dah rosak!?? kalau pakai ram tu pc dah tak leh boot skang gune 512mb je.....lol! oh bdy mister tony sorry sdd silap type name kau kat post aku sebelom nie! lol! Tertulis name bapak aku lak! lol! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah_irb 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 aku dulu pakai Kingston DDR2 512MB 667Mhz...Dah jual RAM tu.. sekarang aku pakai 2GB .. run dual channel..aku pakai mushkin 1GB 667Mhz dua keping..masalahnya.. aku rasa macam sama je performance dia...aku pakai mobo intel 945GNTLtolong aku wei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 ok ok aku tarik balik kate2 aku sebelum nie! aku dapat tahu bahawe ram aku tak rosak! lol!halo mister shah irb! cube kau bagitau info yang lebih teliti! ape maksud kau dengan "aku rase macam same je performance die" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtahu 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) macam mana nk wat ram tu run dual channel...ker masa beli ram tu kena beli ram yg dual channel atau camner rr.. setahu aku ram yg run dual channel lebih ckit performancenya ...betul ke??klu betul aku nk wat gitu lah.... Edited August 19, 2007 by xtahu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huruhara 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2007 mcm aku guna dual channel...dua2 sama jenis..2x 1gb kingston ddr2 667mhz.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zieraq 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) erm..thanks MR.wbr_4044... MR.AriB...aku pakai RAM yg lama ni 512(cap Ayam)... 553 MHz...then pcfair baru2 nih aku berkenan lak tmbah RAM...so aku pickup..Mushkin(enhanced kata penjualnye huhu)...yg 653MHz(klu slh betulkan)... then aku sumbat Mushkin tu dkt Slot 1...cap ayam slot 2... aku runkan....ok je....compatible(kata penjual tu lagi klu x compatible dia nk bwa turun banner Mushkin tu huhu)... aku test sume Illustrator...Battlefield.... sume jln ok...Tapi tula...chipp x sama...huhu...jnji bleh run....kan..kan...kan....erm...MR.zieraq bleh explain skit x tntang SPD tu?...p/s: huhuGuna cpuz tgk pada tab SPD. klau sama maknanya ram compatible. klau ram yg x compatible dipasang bersama speednya akan turun satu step. katakan klau ada 2 ram 667mhz yg x compatible speed dia akan decreased jadi 533mhz. Edited August 20, 2007 by zieraq Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted August 20, 2007 sejak bile pulak kalau ram tak compatible speed akan turun 1 step ni??8 ker 16 chip ni biasenya PERLU utk SDRAM sahaja.Sbb mobo (chipset) takleh nak detect ram tu. So die akan jadi separuh dari saiz sebenar.Cthnya ko beli ram 256mb.tapi masuk kat mobo lama (pentium 2 kebawah), die akan detect 128mb jerk.Ram / slot / mobo tak rosak.cume tak compatible.So kene pegi tukar ambik yg 16chip.baru la mobo tu detect 256mb.benda ni so far aku tak penah jumper lagi kat DDR dan DDR 2. Bilangan chip berbeza sbb zaman dulu takde ram 1gb.biasenya 512mb DDR1 tu dah double sided. Pastu 1gb pun dah byk kat market.So 512mb DDR1 pun dah jadi single sided sbb saiz utk setiap chip tu dah makin besarcthnya la.saiz 512mb.ade 8 chip.So setiap chip tu bersaiz 64. tapi utk double sided / 16 chip.setiap chip tu hanya bersaiz 32mb.Dari segi perfomance so far memang takde beza.cume ade beberapa review dari user yg mengatakan double sided lagi bagus utk overclock (utk ram DDR1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zieraq 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 sejak bile pulak kalau ram tak compatible speed akan turun 1 step ni??8 ker 16 chip ni biasenya PERLU utk SDRAM sahaja.Sbb mobo (chipset) takleh nak detect ram tu. So die akan jadi separuh dari saiz sebenar.Cthnya ko beli ram 256mb.tapi masuk kat mobo lama (pentium 2 kebawah), die akan detect 128mb jerk.Ram / slot / mobo tak rosak.cume tak compatible.So kene pegi tukar ambik yg 16chip.baru la mobo tu detect 256mb.benda ni so far aku tak penah jumper lagi kat DDR dan DDR 2. Bilangan chip berbeza sbb zaman dulu takde ram 1gb.biasenya 512mb DDR1 tu dah double sided. Pastu 1gb pun dah byk kat market.So 512mb DDR1 pun dah jadi single sided sbb saiz utk setiap chip tu dah makin besarcthnya la.saiz 512mb.ade 8 chip.So setiap chip tu bersaiz 64. tapi utk double sided / 16 chip.setiap chip tu hanya bersaiz 32mb.Dari segi perfomance so far memang takde beza.cume ade beberapa review dari user yg mengatakan double sided lagi bagus utk overclock (utk ram DDR1)saya pernah try mix kingston 1gb ddr epilda chip 200mhz(sahaja) dgn kingston 512mb cip kingston yg support 100,166 & 200mhz. mmg x compatible n speed dia turun both running at 166mhz only. bila check kat cpuz SPD dia x sama.x lama sebelum tu saya pernah mix apacer & infineon (dah lupa cip apa) check pada bios both running at 166mhz sahaja pada pentium 4 sistem. mobo2 keluaran terkini xde bnyk masalah utk detect ram sbb ram detection pada bios mmg bergantung pada SPD yg ada pada ram. so klau x compatible dia akan auto adjust ke lower speed supaya kedua2 ram bleh running dgn selamat.pc saya running 512mb(16 cip) & 256mb(8 cip) kingston cip dua2 ada SPD yg sama so running full speed at 200mhz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2007 halo... saya pernah try mix kingston 1gb ddr epilda chip 200mhz(sahaja) dgn kingston 512mb cip kingston yg support 100,166 & 200mhz. mmg x compatible n speed dia turun both running at 166mhz only. bila check kat cpuz SPD dia x sama.so maksud nyer kalau 1 ram support 1 speed je yang lagi 1 support sampai 3 speed! nnt tak compatible la jadi nyer!?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zieraq 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2007 halo... so maksud nyer kalau 1 ram support 1 speed je yang lagi 1 support sampai 3 speed! nnt tak compatible la jadi nyer!?? Ya Betul...! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah_irb 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2007 ye la.. waktu start windows. bukak fail.. main game.. aku rasa macam xde beza dengan aku pakai512MB dulu .. sedangkan sekarang aku pakai 2GB.. 1 GB run dual channel.. atau RAM mushkin aku tak bagus.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2007 (edited) halu semule Ya Betul...!so that mean sekarang nie ram aku tak compatible la! Ok in that case mane yang korang pikir patut stay kat aku nyer mobo 8 chip ke 16 chip!??? WAAAA!!! KIRIMAN KE 100! lol hari besejarah! :lol: Edited August 22, 2007 by AriB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) halo,ok satu lagi soalan tambahan!?kalau cam mobo aku nie pakai satu ram 16 chip ngan 8 chip, tapi die run stable ok ke kalau aku biarkan je! ade side effect kat mobo aku ke!??? Edited August 24, 2007 by AriB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted August 24, 2007 (edited) saya pernah try mix kingston 1gb ddr epilda chip 200mhz(sahaja) dgn kingston 512mb cip kingston yg support 100,166 & 200mhz. mmg x compatible n speed dia turun both running at 166mhz only. bila check kat cpuz SPD dia x sama.x lama sebelum tu saya pernah mix apacer & infineon (dah lupa cip apa) check pada bios both running at 166mhz sahaja pada pentium 4 sistem. mobo2 keluaran terkini xde bnyk masalah utk detect ram sbb ram detection pada bios mmg bergantung pada SPD yg ada pada ram. so klau x compatible dia akan auto adjust ke lower speed supaya kedua2 ram bleh running dgn selamat.pc saya running 512mb(16 cip) & 256mb(8 cip) kingston cip dua2 ada SPD yg sama so running full speed at 200mhz.Bro..speed tu bergantung kepada motherboard+cpu+ram.kalau dua2 selari, so buleh la support sampai max. Skang ni ko pakai ram yg support DDR400 @ 200MHz. Semestinya ram ko tu PC3200 kan?8 ker 16 chip tu takde kaitan la. Faktor yg menyebabkan ram ko jadik 166 dan bukan 200MHz sbb motherboard @ FSB (cpu/proc). Cube cek pakai CPU-Z @ prog seumpanya. FSB / BUS cpu ko tu mesti 133MHz kan? Benda ni buleh ubah dlm setting BIOS. Ia terjadi sbb ram tu nak follow speed FSB dari cpu** aku penah pakai 2x256mb(8chip) DDR400 + 512mb DDR333(16chip)..tapi semua ram tu berfungsi pada speed 400MHz Edited August 24, 2007 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) halo,so ok lah kalau aku nak letak kedue2 ram aku tu takde side effect la?? Edited August 25, 2007 by AriB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted August 26, 2007 takde.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AriB 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2007 halo,wahaha satu berite yang bagus! lol! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites