org giler 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 hm, aku x tau sgt la psal bende alah tu... anybody yg tau? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamita501 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Yea la..parts mana yg tak tau tu.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) senang ckp brg2 electronik...specifik lagi chip or IC....contoh : silicon....semiconductor adalah bahan semi pengalir...perlukan sedikit tenaga untuk menggerakkan elektron valens ke satu jalur ke jalur yg lain...berlainan dgn logam dan penebat...so, produk semiconductor adalah produk yang dibuat dari bahan2 semikonduktor....transistor CMOS contohnya...berbillion2 transistor akan membentuk IC spt yg korang guna skrang...processor Intel, amd dll...kalo jumpa IC yg rosak...try bukak...korng akan jumpa sekeping kaca yang nipis...sgt kecil kdg2 tu...yg tu la ...silicon chip...yg dibuat dari satu keping bahan semikonduktor... Edited March 4, 2006 by owner_ze Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 hm, yg tu aku tau.. kat dlm tenet pon banyak...tp, aku nak tau lagi detail psal fungsi2 die...hm, kalo sesapa yg ade gambor2 die pon...ley la kasik...tp, x nak la gambor wafer or cip tuh...kalo ley nak gambor scra teknikal...gambor gate2 die sume... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alel 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 kat internet pun ada gak fungsi2 dia...cuba search pasal semiconductor fabrication atau cmos fabrication ke...atau microelectronic design...pastu nak gambo gate pasal apa...nak design gate ke...nak cross-section view ke...nak layout ke...nak circuit ke...atau stick diagram ke...kalo nak design physical layout...dulu aku pakai L-EDIT aje...yg free punye la...tu pun boleh generate spice file kalo nak analisis kat pspice...kalo gate circuit design dan vhdl bole pakai soft dari altera...lesen utk free version pun ada... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 hua!!!!!! aku x paham...hm, kasik je sume beserta penerangan ley? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alel 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2006 erkkk...sbb tu aku suruh search dulu...baca kat wiki pun ok ape...ko nak detail tapi bagitau terlalu general...so, aku assume ko nak tau pasal gate dlm sc...istilah gate ada byk maksud......gate utk logic...(org melayu panggil get mcm NAND XOR camtu la...jugak dipanggil transistor(in logic meaning) mcm gate level tu sama la dgn gate level)...gate dalam ic fabrication...polysilicon antara source dgn drain (atau channel) dalam MOS...btw, aku pun xigt sangat kalo nak citer pasal concept dgn teori ni...buku pun dah lama buang...so googling aje la dulu... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted March 16, 2006 papepon, teng u bebanyak...hm, aku bace banyak2 ni pening jadinye...coz aku bukan dak teknikal...aku wat marketing psal ni...so, aku kene tau la secara kasar psal bende nih... yela, kalo x camne nak jual...hm, kalo ade info, kasik tau la...teng u bebanyak mr alel... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2006 ko wat marketing pasal ape? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2006 hm, aku blaja marketing psal produk p'guna...tetiba aku kene wat psal iindustriel product...tu yg pening tuh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 apa yg ko pening? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 sebab aku x penah blaja psal semiconductor nih...coz aku student marketing... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) mc zairysha,ni ada link tuk jenis wafer dgn harga, pilih yg mana berkenan dihati.waferworld Edited April 4, 2006 by owner_ze Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 teng u... aku baru je bukak nih.. nanti kalo ade pape yg aku x paham aku tye ko... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 hm, aku x wape faham la.. ni harge wafer kosong je ye?kalo harge dr syarikat2 semiconductor tu camne?mcm 1st silicon, national semi, mimos semiconductor, fairchild semi n etc tu camne lak?aku da carik tp, x jumpe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Itu spesial diorng buat...satu produk tu memang tak dibenarkan sama sekali diberi sewenang-wenangnye ke syarikat lain...kena ada tujuanKatakan kompeni A buat wafer untuk kompeni B, kompeni B fabricate IC untuk kompeni C. Kompeni C bagi design kat kompeni B..Kompeni B tak bley bagi produk tu kat kompeni D atau jual secara terbuka kat sape-sape nak beli...sbb circuit yg dlm wafer tu, kompeni C yg punye, design dia sendiri..rahsia...so, ko kena tanya kompeni yg terbabit la...cuma industry mungkin ada standard harga yg disokong bersama kompeni-kompeni terbabit...tak sure lak nak cari kat mana...try Google ---> ITRS roadmap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 da try dah... banyak kuar annual n price report untk company...itupon kene beli...hm, yg lagi sedeynye... web wafer coklat 2 pon kuar skali... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
owner_ze 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 ko beli yg cokelat tu...murah sikit rege...yg tu lembut dier lebih kurang mcm biskut....heheaku rasa ko takkan jumpa rege tu...ko kena tanya diorng jugak...ko kena spesifik produk ape...ko try google 'standard price for microprocessor wafer' ke ape ker kot ada... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 nanti aku try... ni da 2 ari aku b'usha carik nih..kalo x dpt, aku g tau la bos aku...hm, tapi kebanyakannye bende ni private... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotatinggi 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2006 apa yg aku tau kalo marketing berkenaan dgn semiconductor ni...ko cuma kena tau basic dia saja..cara penggunaan,diperbuat dari apa..dan simbol.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 apa yg aku tau kalo marketing berkenaan dgn semiconductor ni...ko cuma kena tau basic dia saja..cara penggunaan,diperbuat dari apa..dan simbol..hm, mugkin la... tp, aku tanye sume tu coz bos aku yg srh carik...pastu, kene present...hm, x tau ler... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2006 carik2 psal semiconductor training, aku terjumpe lak bende nih...hm, seminar bout semiconductor...SEMINAR SEMICONDUCTOR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotatinggi 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2006 wahhh...seminar kat oversea laa kak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
org giler 0 Report post Posted April 24, 2006 tgk betul2... kat mesia ade...1 kat penang, 1 kat kl.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites