eazt 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 hai kengkawan... bley tolong tak.. aku technician jer kat tempat keje aku... dah tu unit IT kat cni plak hanye ader dua org jer... aku dah la x tau psl network ni...yg jadi masalahnye ni bos aku sroh aku setup LAN kat office ni guna ADSL... aku tros tercengang jer... bengong aku... aku dah try google but x tau plak aku, nak gune keyword mende...Ni masalah daku.... 1. kat office ni ader 1 server... tgh operational but ader byk problem2. internet ader with LAN connection lar... but certain web tu x bley bukak.3. aku nak mula balik fresh setting network... dari setting hardware hingga operation dier... sbb nampak cam best... but aku lack aducation la plak a.k.a bodo... any respond.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotatinggi 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 ko guna managed switch ke? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suriasah_putera 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Tak perlu risau...Kalo ank start buat network yg fresh, make sure sediakan kertas dan pen utk lakarang network secara scratch. Senang nak setup nanti.Then, for sure ADSL yang dimaksudkan adalah Internet Broadband mcm Streamyx.So, apa yang diperlukan ialah, modem ADSL.Nak setup ke Internet, rasanya untuk kompeni, technician TMNet akan dtg buat installation. selebihnya terserah kepada ko.Ok, mulakan design mcm nih :-[iNTERNET] <-----> [ADSL MODEM] <----> [sWITCH] <----> [PC/Server]Tu dr segi network design. Ko lukisla lawa2.Pastuh dekat ADSL modem tuh, set lah DHCP dan jugak enablekan NAT.Then, aku rasa xde masalah lg dah pasni. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Tak perlu risau...Kalo ank start buat network yg fresh, make sure sediakan kertas dan pen utk lakarang network secara scratch. Senang nak setup nanti.Then, for sure ADSL yang dimaksudkan adalah Internet Broadband mcm Streamyx.So, apa yang diperlukan ialah, modem ADSL.Nak setup ke Internet, rasanya untuk kompeni, technician TMNet akan dtg buat installation. selebihnya terserah kepada ko.Ok, mulakan design mcm nih :-[iNTERNET] <-----> [ADSL MODEM] <----> [sWITCH] <----> [PC/Server]Tu dr segi network design. Ko lukisla lawa2.Pastuh dekat ADSL modem tuh, set lah DHCP dan jugak enablekan NAT.Then, aku rasa xde masalah lg dah pasni.←ooo.... like that ka.... best - best... aku try lakar n study network ni... but camner server lak... nak setup maksud aku.ader x site yg tunjuk step by step for beginner cam aku? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 ko guna managed switch ke?←managed switch? err... aku x sampai tahap tu lagi ar.ko tanye aku, aku tros bengong ni. bengap giler aku ngn network ni.anyhow, nanti aku try study yek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macuser 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 dude...bule tanya, berapa pc/printer/plotter/fax dah sebagainya yg nak di sambungkan ke network hang tu? Bos hang suruh buat tu hang tak tanya dulu ke "Bos bule naik gaji dak lepas ni?"Lagi satu...projek Bos ko ni ade kuar modal ke idak? Sebab aku tanya ni mungkin ko kena tambah equipment kalau nak kasik network ni jalan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 dude...bule tanya, berapa pc/printer/plotter/fax dah sebagainya yg nak di sambungkan ke network hang tu? Bos hang suruh buat tu hang tak tanya dulu ke "Bos bule naik gaji dak lepas ni?"Lagi satu...projek Bos ko ni ade kuar modal ke idak? Sebab aku tanya ni mungkin ko kena tambah equipment kalau nak kasik network ni jalan.←hah, hang bagi aku soalan bagus tu, aku ader mintak bos aku sroh tambah gaji, but dier cam lebih ske buang keje aku kalo aku x dpt buat. mmg tension aku.Dalam erti kate lain, aku ni tgh nak pertahankan keje aku jer la ni.pc lebih kurang 16 buah/ printer ader 3/ plotter? aku x paham/ fax ader 1tambahan cam 1 ADSL modem/ 2 hub/ 1 servertu jer yg aku nampak stakat ni.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macuser 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 ok..aku rasa ko nak set network yg sempoinye, ini aku cadangkan..amik pen tulis ni..hehehe1. ko kena lukis camer ....ahhh tak yah lukis la start balik..1. kita start dgn internal network dulu...(they call it intranet)- ko kena assign semua 16 pc tu dng ip dulu. klau ko nak printer tu pakai ip ko letak ip sekali...klau printer tu tak de network card, tak yah lah assign.2. List semua 16 ip tu on a paper nanti kalau problem senang nak troubleshoot.contoh ip 10.20.10.x -------> utk polan si polan(klau printer ader netcard ko assign no 10.20.10.2). Aku suggest ip utk pc start dari 10.20.10.10 and above so klau ader tambah printer ko bule masuk x.x.x.2 sampai 8.ip tak kesah sebab ko citer pasal internal network. Nak tau pasal assign ip lak kena le check google. as long as ip ko tu segment dia 10.20.10.ko paham kan ni dulu...lepas tu aku citer lagibersambungg.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penguin_jadian 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Buat keje pun belum dah suruh mintak naik gaji...apa daaKang bos ko bayar rm4000 sebulan tapi ko tatau buat keje...sapa yg malu...ko & keluarga ko jugak kan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 Buat keje pun belum dah suruh mintak naik gaji...apa daaKang bos ko bayar rm4000 sebulan tapi ko tatau buat keje...sapa yg malu...ko & keluarga ko jugak kan←haha... thats why aku akur jer... aku x nak gaji besar sbenarnye... but x tau network ni trase x complete lak idop... dah la aku minat giler kerjaya aku... ni lak x tau network... kene study lebih ar... chayok2! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 ok... aku dah paham assigning ip... but kat sini... dier gune ip segment 192.168.0 lar. ader beza x? sumer pc dah aku assign ip and aku catat. ready giler dah ni..so guru ape citer lpas ni? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crypto.md5 1 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 rilekss, ni lah permulaan untuk ko belajar network. lama2 bila dah terrer skit, leh jadi network administrator company ko, haaa... masa tu ko cakap ngan bos, minta naik gaji.hehehehe ko set ip kat pc dulu?, kang kalau ko ader router/modem ko kena set sama subnet tu.contohnyer camni,adsl router/modem ip:192.168.1.1pc 1: 192.168.1.2subnet mask: 255.255.255.0gateway ikut adsl router/modem ko: 192.168.1.1pc 2: 192.168.1.3subnet mask: 255.255.255.0gateway: 192.168.1.1ada apa2 lagi? putera.com kan dekat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macuser 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 dude...aku perasan ko kata ko ader 1 server, server aper tu?Domain server ke? Printer Server ke? email server ke? dhcp server ke?OS dia aper? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macuser 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 hub ko jenis hub plug& play ke? kalau jenis p&p tak banyak benda ko bule buat.langkah seterusnya....amik rj45 (lan cable) cucuk pc kat hub tu, ko bagi2 le...8 to 8 - donelepas tu ko amik 1 rj45 ko cascade kan hub tu. uplink hub tu selalu nya port 1 atau port yg last atau sometimes dia ade butang kat belakang dia.nak lagi senang baik ko citer hub model aper, bule aku terang lagik detailbersambung.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
macuser 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 hub ko jenis hub plug& play ke? kalau jenis p&p tak banyak benda ko bule buat.langkah seterusnya....amik rj45 (lan cable) cucuk pc kat hub tu, ko bagi2 le...8 to 8 - donelepas tu ko amik 1 rj45 ko cascade kan hub tu. uplink hub tu selalu nya port 1 atau port yg last atau sometimes dia ade butang kat belakang dia.kena check sometime hub to hub dia kena guna cross cable.nak lagi senang baik ko citer hub model aper, bule aku terang lagik detailbersambung.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 rilekss, ni lah permulaan untuk ko belajar network. lama2 bila dah terrer skit, leh jadi network administrator company ko, haaa... masa tu ko cakap ngan bos, minta naik gaji.hehehehe ko set ip kat pc dulu?, kang kalau ko ader router/modem ko kena set sama subnet tu.contohnyer camni,adsl router/modem ip:192.168.1.1pc 1: 192.168.1.2subnet mask: 255.255.255.0gateway ikut adsl router/modem ko: 192.168.1.1pc 2: 192.168.1.3subnet mask: 255.255.255.0gateway: 192.168.1.1ada apa2 lagi? putera.com kan dekat ←roger2... akan ku selami putera.com ni dengan lebih detail.. ahaha. ko mmg best! thanks. terbukak gak aku ngan ip, subnet ngan gateway 2... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 macuser:yup, aku ader kate server... but nak determine yg tu domain, printer , email atau DHCP server... 2 payah ar... aku x tau ar...yang penting, os dier linux redhat.err... yg part hub tu ko bagi tau cam expert ar... slow cket bley x... aku blur 8 to 8 tu mender.. kalo bley, ader x site yg bagitau definition untuk org bodo cam aku ni?kalo part model hub tu dier model compex sas22224. ok ak info ni yg aku bagi?sori ar... nyusahkan korang jer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nirzaanputra 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 ermm.. nampak best, leh gak tumpang sekaki. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 ermm.. nampak best, leh gak tumpang sekaki. ←huh? bley jer.... but kene ar tolong aku ni... aku tgh bengong ngan network ni hah... at least, aku nak step by step nye guide la.... sesape ader url dier x? aku carik kat google sumer yg expertnye... oh yer... korang try ar www.ilmukomputer.comindonnye web but at least mmg info giler ar... mcm2 ader.. siap guide dier bley download pdf lagi 2... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crypto.md5 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 macuser:yup, aku ader kate server... but nak determine yg tu domain, printer , email atau DHCP server... 2 payah ar... aku x tau ar...yang penting, os dier linux redhat.err... yg part hub tu ko bagi tau cam expert ar... slow cket bley x... aku blur 8 to 8 tu mender.. kalo bley, ader x site yg bagitau definition untuk org bodo cam aku ni?kalo part model hub tu dier model compex sas22224. ok ak info ni yg aku bagi?sori ar... nyusahkan korang jer... ←Hub ni kira sama ngan switch lah, cuma dia slow skit, aku rekomen ko guna switch.kalo nak extend lagi guna hub, hub to hub kalo takder uplink port, guna crosscable, kalo ader uplink port, ko cucuk kat situ guna straight cable. tau apa beza kaler dia?ambik rj5 cable tu...straight cableWhite/Orange-Orange,White/Green-Blue,White/Blue-Green,White/Brown-Brownkat hujungnya sama kaler...kalo crosscableWhite/Orange-Orange,White/Green-Blue,White/Blue-Green,White/Brown-Brownhujung lagi satu tu...White/Green-Green,White/Orange-Blue,White/Blue-Orange,White/Brown-Brownnetwork is fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 ok... bley la aku tackle stakat ni.... rj45 ngan crosscable aku tau beza dier but dari segi kegunaan ar... x sangka kene adjust lain gak diernye color cable yek..rj45 = w/oo,w/gb,w/bg,w/bbkat sbelahnye same....kalocrosscable = w/oo,w/gb,w/bg,w/bbkat sbelahnye....= w/gg,w/ob,w/bo,w/bbroger.... but yg part uplink port tu aku study jap yek... aku baru tau mender tu ari ni... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crypto.md5 1 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 erkkk...lerr.. salah tu dik...camner nak explen nih, heheheheRJ-45 tu kepalak kepada cable, cable yg di panggil cat-5, straight and cross tu adalah jenis wiringnyer... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 erkkk...lerr.. salah tu dik...camner nak explen nih, heheheheRJ-45 tu kepalak kepada cable, cable yg di panggil cat-5, straight and cross tu adalah jenis wiringnyer... ←err... yg tu aku dah study kat google. baru tau... RJ-45 n cat-5 tu jack dier kan? straight and cross wire dier untuk jack tu... ok... ader ar paham sket... nyway, korang mmg best! tq, tq... bantuan korang stakat ni mmg berbaloi and best giler.tapi aku rase mesti jauh lagi perjalanan aku ni nak blajar network kan? org citer spyware lar, firewall la, DNS lar ntah aper lagi.... mesti kene study lagi ni... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimenxion 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 belaja slow slow.. dari basic.. baru bleh rock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eazt 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2005 hehe.... tu la yg aku tgh pening skrang... aku ni blaja sendiri... so, aku x tau lagi mane satu basic yg perlu aku dalami dulu.... ader x e-book yg ajar basic dier.... camni, bley la aku jimat duit poket... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
