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[zmie78 0]

egold dah kena ambush ngan fbi.. aku so far ngan 12dp takder problem.. aku pakai stormpay jer.. ontime.. ehehe 7 hari sharp.. lambat jam ajer... satu jer kalu tak nak jadi spam.. jgn buat dajal kat diaorg punyer kerja.. mcm SS tu aku rasa mula ok, tapi ada org baru yg tak reti baca FAQ.. tu yg kena ban.. buat jer cam biasa tak yah tamak.. suma pasti dapat untung sesama...

[fizdane 0]

mulai hari ni dah takleh pakai E-gold dah utk upgrade/terima payment dari 12dp T_T

Edited January 7, 2006 by fizdane

[aMReY 0]

weh....apo nh...

cam no nh...

aku tgh pending..payout...

bleh tukar ke...egold ke storm pay...

anybody can help me...!

[Hoodlums 0]

Trylah EMO..

Hehehe promote EMO !!~

[bunny_rich 0]

EMO ok ke?aku masih lagi mushkil dgn EMO ni..

[teraak 0]

mulai hari ni dah takleh pakai E-gold dah utk upgrade/terima payment dari 12dp  T_T

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Abih org yangdah register pakai egold tapi blum expired camana atau yang tgh pending???

[_Ed_ 0]

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...094.htm?chan=tc

ni citer di sebalik E-gold dari artikel ni

kesimpulan :

1) e-gold galakkan anonymousity so boleh lure illegal activities

2) artikel tu fully pasal ? pasal activity haram yang terlibat dengan gunakan e-gold ni ... bukannya pasal e-gold ni tak ok, tapi pasal orang2 yang guna egold ni ada di antara mereka yang memang pembelit

3) ada jugak sangkut paut dengan war on terror, (dia wujudkan fobia terrorist guna egold utk transfer dana)

4) e-gold (atau apa2 metal dalam bentuk electronic ni) dipercayai tak terlalu terdedah dengan inflation rate ngan exchange rate pasal ni kot, sebab emas kan susah sket nak speculate ?

so e-gold dijangka akan menghadapi masalah legal di masa akan datang, at least terms & agreement nanti akan dirombak.

What did happen, according to law enforcement officials, was that a pack of felons flocked to Jackson's brainchild. Sitting in an undecorated conference room in the Melbourne office three months before the federal raid, he acknowledged that he had a "six-inch pile" of subpoenas from such agencies as the FBI, the Securities & Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service -- all seeking information about some of his more suspect customers. Investigators say Jackson may have begun his quirky business with innocent intentions. But in recent years he has turned a blind eye, the officials say, to mounting evidence that e-gold has attracted a seamy clientele. The federal raid suggests that agents are intensifying their focus on e-gold and its potential criminal liability.

Jackson didn't respond to messages after the raid. But earlier, he denied vehemently that he has looked away from crime. He said he responds as quickly as possible to official inquiries. He acknowledged, though, that his staff of 15 includes only one in-house investigator who struggles to keep up with all those subpoenas. E-gold has about 1.2 million funded accounts through which transactions worth $1.5 billion were conducted in 2005, he says. As for the idea that he should systematically monitor customer identities and money flows, he argues that's not his job: "We don't validate because we're unlike any other system."

Federal officials reluctantly confirm this loophole: E-gold and other digital currencies don't neatly fit the definition of financial institutions covered by existing self-monitoring rules established under the Bank Secrecy Act and USA Patriot Act. "It's not like it's regulated by someone else; it's not regulated," says Mark Rasch, senior vice-president of the Internet security firm Solutionary Inc. and former head of the Justice Dept.'s computer crime unit. The Treasury Dept.'s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is studying ways to close the regulatory gap. Meanwhile, U.S. officials say e-gold and similar companies should voluntarily do more to deter crime.

so sini nampak masalah egold ni pasal identity pengguna yang samar ni sebab egold nak terus ada transaction (niat transaction tu tak tau la) dalam sistem dia, bila ada transaction baru ada duit (perasan tak 15 orang pekerja ja dia ada, dah tu kalau dia charge 1% dari $1.5 billion == $15 juta tu ....

egold dan banyak payment proc. lain tak terlampau ketat dalam register ahli sebab diorang ni bukan institusi kewangan yang sebenar, cuma tempat transact duit secara online.

E-gold and a handful of rivals, including one called GoldMoney, were different. Their founders believed that tying monetary exchange to a strict gold standard would achieve greater economic stability. The Internet provided a ready venue for gold bugs the same way that it offered a soapbox to adherents of every other strain of thought. Jackson, an Army veteran and a graduate of Pennsylvania State University's medical school, was practicing oncology in Melbourne in the mid-1990s when he began reading about libertarianism and monetary theory. The married father of two adopted boys began to change his thinking. He scoured the works of libertarian novelist and philosopher Ayn Rand and was impressed by economist Friedrich A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom, an influential 1944 condemnation of government control of the economy. "It looked like a lot of the suffering of recent centuries -- some of the scale of wars, some of the economic dislocations -- could be traced back to credit cycles. And credit cycles could be traced back to monetary manipulation" by governments, Jackson says. "I was very moved by it."

INTELLECTUAL CONVERSION

Gold, he concluded, was the cure. The U.S. stopped tying the dollar to a fixed amount of gold in 1971. But Jackson and a friend, attorney Barry K. Downey, decided to start what amounted to their own gold-backed currency. Jackson liquidated retirement accounts and sold his medical practice to help raise an initial $900,000. A former colleague noticed him working on computer code around the clock at his stand-up doctor's desk. He often forgot to eat and lost weight. Along the way, he stopped attending church. Jackson confirms all this but stresses that he continued to provide excellent care for his patients until he bowed out of medicine completely in 1998.

ni interesting, nampak tak apa yang founder egold support? penggunaan EMAS sebagai solution menyeluruh ... hmmm nampak cam sapa hah ? yang support2 emas ni eheh

anyway aku tak minat semua ni cuma interested dengan gold, kalau ada problem dengan egold tinggalkan, sebab ni semua risiko, not worth to play kalau kita kecik ..

Edited January 7, 2006 by ed_thix

[owner_ze 0]

Interesting article by business week...aku sarankan kita semua baca...linknye mcm yg ed thix bagi tu...

so rerakan semua...do something...bgtau kat semua yg duitnya ada tersimpan dlm egold...keluarkan segera...bnyk lg payment processor lain...nnt kalo dah OK, baru kita guna blk...

Duit aku dah invest dlm 12DP...ader lebih dlm 1-2 dollar...tak tau nak letak kat ner...invest dlm hyip la kot...

Edited January 8, 2006 by owner_ze

[conroe 0]

12 dp ok...aku dh teme byrn dan dh upgrade akaun balik

[aMReY 0]

wa....aku xdpt verified email dr 12dp le...ape nk jd nh...

sape2 bleh tolong

[muhamadsks 0]

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[muhamadsks 0]

cuba try hak ni ....bayar segera '''

http://210surf.com/?ref=822

http://www.u-earn.com/?ref=413

guna stompay pun boleh...........

http://www.stormpay.com/?2646074

[bunny_rich 0]

lagi gile die ni..selamber je... wadud!

[shah9 0]

ape citer ngan autosurf ni hah???....dah ade citer hukum fatwa sume lak ni yg mcm x best ni...ade sape2 bleh jelaskan ngan terang tak??.....baru nak join dah x sedap ati la plak mcm ni kan???...

[bunny_rich 0]

kalo nk tau pasal hukum hakam autosurf ni masuk kat forum nogold.com kat sane lagi byk cite pasal ni..siap berdebat lagi

[AsRaN ZaRa 0]

*muhammadsks..sebarang referal link tidak dibenarkan ko bleh rujuk term n rules..aku rasa x perlulh tunggu wadud utk tegur sapa2 yg x tahu ni specialy newbie..sapa2 yg tahu harap korg pn turut sama tegur kpd sapa2 yg x tahu..tp kalo wadud tego lg sodap..hehe dpesilakan bro wadud

nih psl 12 dp..nape aku x bleh update akunye account ? tiap kali aku try update dia kata need email confirmation. dlm mailbox aku xde pun email tu. ishh..mcm mana nh

Edited January 14, 2006 by AsRaN ZaRa

[AsRaN ZaRa 0]

nih psl 12 dp..nape aku x bleh update akunye account ? tiap kali aku try update dia kata need email confirmation. dlm mailbox aku xde pun email tu. ishh..mcm mana nh

alop aku rasa byk antara korg 12dp members..tlgla jwb masalah aku nh..nape yer adeih..

[faxists 0]

bace bebetul setiap messgeboard yg di bagi bile login dlm 12dp..aku yg english merangkak pon buleh pahahm skit.

kene letak email nko yg digunakan untuk login stormpay/emo

kalo nko dah buat tak de gak tak tau la..btq aku pakai gmail

[AsRaN ZaRa 0]

tu aku tahu..aku dh cek abis2 mailbox mmg xde email confirmation tu

dh tu aku nak update akaun nak letak first name ngan 2nd name dia kata email aku x valid ada ke plak cmtu sedangkn aku login boleh plak tu yg aku tension tuh..nak update emo akaun pn x boleh..btw aku pakai yahoo mail

Edited January 15, 2006 by AsRaN ZaRa

[owner_ze 0]

12DP benarkan tukar satu jer dlm satu2 masa...bila dah tukar tu, dorng akan hantar confirmation melalui email...

sblm tukar ape2...kena edit nama dulu, full name, last name...bila dah tukar tu, kalo x de perubahan gak tgu sehari dua, sbb kdg2 dia ambil masa gak nak tgk perubahan dia kat account profile tuh....

aku aritu, dah tukar account egold ke stormpay...tp kat dlm account profile still tulis egold....sehingga lepas bebrapa hari, bile aku login, ader keluar page lain yg suh aku update blk account...

kalo x settle gak problem ko, submit ticket ler...