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Fig 1. The two contenders to the 3D graphics throne, GeForce 6800 Ultra and Radeon X800 XT.

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Fig 2. The Radeon X800 XT heatsink is even smaller than that of the Radeon 9800 XT.

3Dmark03, 2001 SE and AquaMark3

UT2003, AA and AF

UT2004, AA and AF

Halo, AA and AF

Far Cry, AA and AF

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Fig 5. The R420 processor, featuring no less than 160-million transistors, manufactured at TSMC.

By looking at the benchmark results it is obvious that ATi and Nvidia are both contenders to the performance crown, however it is hard to declare a winner. On paper the GeForce 6800 Ultra still is the king of the hill. But although the GeForce 6800 Ultra has the best papers in terms of features and raw performance, ATi has a card that is small, draws far less power, generates very little heat, is a single slot solution and packs a mighty punch. At the end of the day both cards are perfectly capable of playing the latest games such as Far Cry and Unreal Tournament 2004 at high resolutions which sufficiently high frame rates. As we already expressed in our first look at Nvidia’s new architecture two weeks ago, the 2nd quarter will be most interesting as we’ll again see ATi and Nvidia butting heads over who’s the reigning king of the hill.

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Fig 5. A single molex power connector supplies sufficient power for the Radeon X800 XT.

At the end of the day we’d pick either one of these cards over the previous top of the line cards such as the GeForce FX5950 and the Radeon 9800XT, there simply is no comparison. Performance is up by at least 100% across the board in comparison to these older graphics cards and we’d suggest you wait for the Radeon X800 XT or GeForce 6800 Ultra to appear on the shelves if you’re looking to buy a new graphics card. In the next few weeks we’ll probably see the board partners of both companies releasing their graphics cards, which will initially only differ in terms of what heatsink is mounted and what color printed circuit board is used, and of course the bundled games and accessories.

We’ll also see the launch of new graphics cards based on these two new architectures, such as the Radeon X800 Pro and the GeForce 6800 GT, cards that’ll have a friendlier price tag yet deliver a significant performance advantage over older cards. But for those of you that positively need to have the fastest card available only the Radeon X800 XT or GeForce 6800 Ultra will do, provided you have the system to match. Certainly if you’re thinking of playing at 1600x1200 you need a fast processor too, as well as plenty of memory. Just to give you an impression, the Pentium 4 3.2GHz Extreme Edition processor used in our testing was often taxed to a 90% processor load when playing games such as Far Cry, keep that in mind when you make your next purchase.

jadi, buat pilihan anda sekarang... hehehe...

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FX5200... amcam still the best, tak mampu nak beli lagik yg power2 tuh tongue.gif

ATi has a card that is small, draws far less power, generates very little heat, is a single slot solution and packs a mighty punch.

X800 tuh guna AGP ker PCI-X haa tongue.gif

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thread mcm ni bg aku bleh sambung jer kotz kat thread yg tlh ader..

anyway, site ni ader gaks result yg beza ngan site2 lain..

cth dlm far cry, yelar site lain pun bukan sumer samer result dier,

but at least cuba lihat result tu secara keseluruhan / majoriti ler..

satu lagi pemilihan games yg digunakan pun mempengaruhi gaks,

klu majoriti games yg digunakan tu mmg berat kat nvidia, sure kemungkinan conclusion dier nvidia menang adlh lbh tinggi....

okies~

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Setau aku la...

PCI-X utk Radeon dikenali sebagai X880

Tapi kan aku nak tau sebenarnye lah mane lagi power...

6800 ke X800

sane kate lain sini kate lain...??

OK TATA

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tertarik bila tengok bahagian observations dia..

overall bila pasang 4AA & AF X800 mmg top

tapi saingannya mmg sama hebat..jadi aku rase samada korang angkut x800XT ataupun 6800U korang tentu takkan rase menyesal..

sebab kedua2 kad ni mmg power..

tapi yg aku sedikit terkilan ialah Nvidia tarik balik HDTV support dari kad diorang..

kalau tak ,ni lah salah satu drp advantages yg nvidia bagi utk kad diorang..sayang sebab diorang keluarkannya disaat2 akhir..

mungkin diorang nak kurangkan kos kad tu tuk bersaing ngan produk ati..

tapi mungkin jugak nanti ade 3rd party kad manufacturer yg akan masukkan fungsi tu..sapa tau..

sebab layout ref. board(yg ade 2 molex connector) yg nvidia kuarkan mmg support HDTV..cuma diorang tak masukkan sebab tu optional ja..

cuma layout terbaru(1 molex) mungkin tak disertakan sekali laluan HDTV tu..

mungkin jugak ada diantara kita yg akan beli kad mengikut kategori games yg diorang minat..

sebab aku tengok banyak game2 baru lebih menyerlahkan kad dari ati..cam game CMR4,far cry dlm jadual tu sume x800xt yg bolot..

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aku tgh tunggu klu ader benchmark ps3.0 games, thn dpn kotz wink.gif

heh..taun depan dah kuar kad lain plak..heh biggrin.gif

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klu nak tukar kad tiap2 thn x perlu tunggu benchmark..

but klu nak guna lbh sethn bg aku lbh baik lihat dulu performance dier utk masa depan mcm maner..

klu performance x jauh beza x kisah ler,

but klu jadi lain mcm hl2, traod dll..

(wpun takat ni ATi masih mendahului dlm ps2.0)

susah gaks..riban2 maa...rugi ler...

skrg ni klu ader yg nak angkat 9800xt dgn rege rm14xx, aku rasa lbh baik tunggu dulu x800se (klu nak ATi ler). samer gaks 8 pipelines but mungkin bleh oc lagik tinggi..mungkin gaks bleh softmod...

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maksud aku kalau nak tunggu benchmark dari games uy utilize ps3.0 thn dpn

time tu ati dah kuarkan kad yg support ps3 plak..so tu taun depan nye cite plak lar smile.gif

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aku nak pakai radeon 9800pro 128mb dah la

itu pun dah lebih dari memadai....

lain la radeon 7000

xleh support baru dah

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maksud aku kalau nak tunggu benchmark dari games uy utilize ps3.0 thn dpn

time tu ati dah kuarkan kad yg support ps3 plak..so tu taun depan nye cite plak lar smile.gif

wokeh wink.gif

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Posted on Jun 11 2004, 05:58 PM

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Nvidia GeForce 6800Ultra is da best..enuff said....

Betul ker...???

Pasal jadik camnie..???

Dlu memula X800 yang jauh lebih power...

Nvidia Jampi diorang puye driver kot...

OK TATA

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terpulang ler nak kata saper power...

wpun takat nih klu ikut benchmark x800 masih mendahului..

masing2 ader sbb2 dan penilaian yg tersendiri..

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Nvidia 6800 punye unit pixel shader ader 16 berbanding 12 utk ATI X800..so, dah terserlah ke'poh-werrannye' sbb banyak benchmark dijalankan menggunakan driver BETA iaitu versi 61.11..so, driver tu belum di-optimize lagi....pakai driver BETA pon power gile benchmark dier, apatah lagi bile dah optimize... biggrin.gif

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Nvidia 6800 punye unit pixel shader ader 16 berbanding 12 utk ATI X800..so, dah terserlah ke'poh-werrannye' sbb banyak benchmark dijalankan menggunakan driver BETA iaitu versi 61.11..so, driver tu belum di-optimize lagi....pakai driver BETA pon power gile benchmark dier, apatah lagi bile dah optimize... biggrin.gif

he he he.. bil unit shader bukanlah segala2nya. Walopun aku bknlah sokobng ATI sgt, tp X800 dh dioptimize dgn baik, dn telah implement brilinear, mcm NVIDIA utk imbangan quality/speed. Latest benchmark pun byk yg puji ATI redeon (tgh core speed, dia, lg slow dr nvdia, tp performance..heh biggrin.gif).Nvidia masih l strrugle utk implement bandwith saving mcm ATI radeon

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fuyoo.. kalo aku yg takdak duit ni baik amik yg g6800U je.. sekali beli nanti tak payah nak kuarkan duit lagi beli kad lain yg support ps3.0... NV40 ni dia punya architecture baru ... x800 tu plak based on old 9800 architecture... so, dengan kata lain nvidia bleh push lagi dia punya kad performance ngan driver yg akan datang..

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Aku masih tak percaye yang 6800 boleh beat X800

Camne bley jadik camnie..

Cerite sket...

Mule mule aku dengar 3dmark 03 utk 6800U ialah 12K jer X800XT plak 16K

macam mane bleh 6800U bleh hit sampai 17K Oclock ker..???

Cerite la sket...

OK TATA

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well, klu ikutkan cpu x mungkin bleh beza ribu2 sbb beza dier hanya dlm ratus mhz jek..wpun dua guna oc cpu (4+ghz).

itu kat benchmark, dlm games mungkin ader gak perbezaan.

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NI pandangan aku terhadap kedua dua Grafic Monster nie..:

X800:

Best....bagi aku X800 memang padan tapi yang aku tak brape berkenan....Dier gune shader lame...pastu transistor kurang 160 million jer jika nak dibandingkan dengan 6800 222 million....ini bermaksud tak baguz for the future.....Hsink OEM kecik jer...ramsink pon tadek....

6800:

Best jugak.....tapi sedut banyak power sampai nak kene gune 2 molex pastu, paling minima nak kene pakai PSU 480watt.....

Mati lah nak kuar duit bli PSU baru(TRUEPOWER)....power banyak maksud nye Temp pon naik la....

so Utk Overclock may tak berape baguzz....tapi bab hsink aku minat la cun macam robot.....

tapi ape yang aku masih tak pueh hati...

Macam mane 6800 Boleh beat X800 ape dah jadik....Cerita la..

OK TATA

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