lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Fig 1. The two contenders to the 3D graphics throne, GeForce 6800 Ultra and Radeon X800 XT.Fig 2. The Radeon X800 XT heatsink is even smaller than that of the Radeon 9800 XT.3Dmark03, 2001 SE and AquaMark3UT2003, AA and AFUT2004, AA and AFHalo, AA and AFFar Cry, AA and AFFig 5. The R420 processor, featuring no less than 160-million transistors, manufactured at TSMC.By looking at the benchmark results it is obvious that ATi and Nvidia are both contenders to the performance crown, however it is hard to declare a winner. On paper the GeForce 6800 Ultra still is the king of the hill. But although the GeForce 6800 Ultra has the best papers in terms of features and raw performance, ATi has a card that is small, draws far less power, generates very little heat, is a single slot solution and packs a mighty punch. At the end of the day both cards are perfectly capable of playing the latest games such as Far Cry and Unreal Tournament 2004 at high resolutions which sufficiently high frame rates. As we already expressed in our first look at Nvidia’s new architecture two weeks ago, the 2nd quarter will be most interesting as we’ll again see ATi and Nvidia butting heads over who’s the reigning king of the hill. Fig 5. A single molex power connector supplies sufficient power for the Radeon X800 XT.At the end of the day we’d pick either one of these cards over the previous top of the line cards such as the GeForce FX5950 and the Radeon 9800XT, there simply is no comparison. Performance is up by at least 100% across the board in comparison to these older graphics cards and we’d suggest you wait for the Radeon X800 XT or GeForce 6800 Ultra to appear on the shelves if you’re looking to buy a new graphics card. In the next few weeks we’ll probably see the board partners of both companies releasing their graphics cards, which will initially only differ in terms of what heatsink is mounted and what color printed circuit board is used, and of course the bundled games and accessories.We’ll also see the launch of new graphics cards based on these two new architectures, such as the Radeon X800 Pro and the GeForce 6800 GT, cards that’ll have a friendlier price tag yet deliver a significant performance advantage over older cards. But for those of you that positively need to have the fastest card available only the Radeon X800 XT or GeForce 6800 Ultra will do, provided you have the system to match. Certainly if you’re thinking of playing at 1600x1200 you need a fast processor too, as well as plenty of memory. Just to give you an impression, the Pentium 4 3.2GHz Extreme Edition processor used in our testing was often taxed to a 90% processor load when playing games such as Far Cry, keep that in mind when you make your next purchase.jadi, buat pilihan anda sekarang... hehehe...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arfaie 15 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 FX5200... amcam still the best, tak mampu nak beli lagik yg power2 tuh ATi has a card that is small, draws far less power, generates very little heat, is a single slot solution and packs a mighty punch.X800 tuh guna AGP ker PCI-X haa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cermin 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 x800 yg baru release tu still guna agp...yg akn datang baru tukar pci-x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 thread mcm ni bg aku bleh sambung jer kotz kat thread yg tlh ader..anyway, site ni ader gaks result yg beza ngan site2 lain..cth dlm far cry, yelar site lain pun bukan sumer samer result dier,but at least cuba lihat result tu secara keseluruhan / majoriti ler..satu lagi pemilihan games yg digunakan pun mempengaruhi gaks,klu majoriti games yg digunakan tu mmg berat kat nvidia, sure kemungkinan conclusion dier nvidia menang adlh lbh tinggi....okies~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punish 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 Setau aku la...PCI-X utk Radeon dikenali sebagai X880Tapi kan aku nak tau sebenarnye lah mane lagi power...6800 ke X800sane kate lain sini kate lain...??OK TATA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2004 kat sini ader jadual ttg result2 tu dr pelbagai site (aku ader pos sblm ni):http://www.nvnews.net/images/news/200405/c...omparison_2.pnglihat ler jadual / table tu, cuba baca secara melintang ka, menegak ka, menyerong ka..pastu buat ler conclusion sendri, pndpt aku masih samer.okies~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmos 1 Report post Posted June 10, 2004 tertarik bila tengok bahagian observations dia..overall bila pasang 4AA & AF X800 mmg toptapi saingannya mmg sama hebat..jadi aku rase samada korang angkut x800XT ataupun 6800U korang tentu takkan rase menyesal..sebab kedua2 kad ni mmg power..tapi yg aku sedikit terkilan ialah Nvidia tarik balik HDTV support dari kad diorang..kalau tak ,ni lah salah satu drp advantages yg nvidia bagi utk kad diorang..sayang sebab diorang keluarkannya disaat2 akhir.. mungkin diorang nak kurangkan kos kad tu tuk bersaing ngan produk ati..tapi mungkin jugak nanti ade 3rd party kad manufacturer yg akan masukkan fungsi tu..sapa tau..sebab layout ref. board(yg ade 2 molex connector) yg nvidia kuarkan mmg support HDTV..cuma diorang tak masukkan sebab tu optional ja..cuma layout terbaru(1 molex) mungkin tak disertakan sekali laluan HDTV tu..mungkin jugak ada diantara kita yg akan beli kad mengikut kategori games yg diorang minat..sebab aku tengok banyak game2 baru lebih menyerlahkan kad dari ati..cam game CMR4,far cry dlm jadual tu sume x800xt yg bolot.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2004 aku tgh tunggu klu ader benchmark ps3.0 games, thn dpn kotz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmos 1 Report post Posted June 10, 2004 aku tgh tunggu klu ader benchmark ps3.0 games, thn dpn kotz heh..taun depan dah kuar kad lain plak..heh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 klu nak tukar kad tiap2 thn x perlu tunggu benchmark..but klu nak guna lbh sethn bg aku lbh baik lihat dulu performance dier utk masa depan mcm maner..klu performance x jauh beza x kisah ler, but klu jadi lain mcm hl2, traod dll..(wpun takat ni ATi masih mendahului dlm ps2.0)susah gaks..riban2 maa...rugi ler...skrg ni klu ader yg nak angkat 9800xt dgn rege rm14xx, aku rasa lbh baik tunggu dulu x800se (klu nak ATi ler). samer gaks 8 pipelines but mungkin bleh oc lagik tinggi..mungkin gaks bleh softmod... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmos 1 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 maksud aku kalau nak tunggu benchmark dari games uy utilize ps3.0 thn dpntime tu ati dah kuarkan kad yg support ps3 plak..so tu taun depan nye cite plak lar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THX(tm) 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 aku nak pakai radeon 9800pro 128mb dah laitu pun dah lebih dari memadai....lain la radeon 7000 xleh support baru dah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 maksud aku kalau nak tunggu benchmark dari games uy utilize ps3.0 thn dpntime tu ati dah kuarkan kad yg support ps3 plak..so tu taun depan nye cite plak lar wokeh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izzo_argastra 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Nvidia GeForce 6800Ultra is da best..enuff said.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punish 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Posted on Jun 11 2004, 05:58 PM-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nvidia GeForce 6800Ultra is da best..enuff said.... Betul ker...???Pasal jadik camnie..???Dlu memula X800 yang jauh lebih power...Nvidia Jampi diorang puye driver kot...OK TATA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 terpulang ler nak kata saper power...wpun takat nih klu ikut benchmark x800 masih mendahului..masing2 ader sbb2 dan penilaian yg tersendiri.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
izzo_argastra 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Nvidia 6800 punye unit pixel shader ader 16 berbanding 12 utk ATI X800..so, dah terserlah ke'poh-werrannye' sbb banyak benchmark dijalankan menggunakan driver BETA iaitu versi 61.11..so, driver tu belum di-optimize lagi....pakai driver BETA pon power gile benchmark dier, apatah lagi bile dah optimize... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MalaysianSecurityForce 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 Nvidia 6800 punye unit pixel shader ader 16 berbanding 12 utk ATI X800..so, dah terserlah ke'poh-werrannye' sbb banyak benchmark dijalankan menggunakan driver BETA iaitu versi 61.11..so, driver tu belum di-optimize lagi....pakai driver BETA pon power gile benchmark dier, apatah lagi bile dah optimize... he he he.. bil unit shader bukanlah segala2nya. Walopun aku bknlah sokobng ATI sgt, tp X800 dh dioptimize dgn baik, dn telah implement brilinear, mcm NVIDIA utk imbangan quality/speed. Latest benchmark pun byk yg puji ATI redeon (tgh core speed, dia, lg slow dr nvdia, tp performance..heh ).Nvidia masih l strrugle utk implement bandwith saving mcm ATI radeon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XIJMX 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 fuyoo.. kalo aku yg takdak duit ni baik amik yg g6800U je.. sekali beli nanti tak payah nak kuarkan duit lagi beli kad lain yg support ps3.0... NV40 ni dia punya architecture baru ... x800 tu plak based on old 9800 architecture... so, dengan kata lain nvidia bleh push lagi dia punya kad performance ngan driver yg akan datang.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punish 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 Aku masih tak percaye yang 6800 boleh beat X800Camne bley jadik camnie..Cerite sket...Mule mule aku dengar 3dmark 03 utk 6800U ialah 12K jer X800XT plak 16Kmacam mane bleh 6800U bleh hit sampai 17K Oclock ker..???Cerite la sket...OK TATA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 takper klu beat pun nanti ader ler x800 user yg bleh beat 68u.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punish 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 tak persoalan nye...camne dier dapat 17K tuh...Dier mod ape..OK TATA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 well, klu ikutkan cpu x mungkin bleh beza ribu2 sbb beza dier hanya dlm ratus mhz jek..wpun dua guna oc cpu (4+ghz).itu kat benchmark, dlm games mungkin ader gak perbezaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Punish 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 NI pandangan aku terhadap kedua dua Grafic Monster nie..:X800:Best....bagi aku X800 memang padan tapi yang aku tak brape berkenan....Dier gune shader lame...pastu transistor kurang 160 million jer jika nak dibandingkan dengan 6800 222 million....ini bermaksud tak baguz for the future.....Hsink OEM kecik jer...ramsink pon tadek....6800:Best jugak.....tapi sedut banyak power sampai nak kene gune 2 molex pastu, paling minima nak kene pakai PSU 480watt.....Mati lah nak kuar duit bli PSU baru(TRUEPOWER)....power banyak maksud nye Temp pon naik la.... so Utk Overclock may tak berape baguzz....tapi bab hsink aku minat la cun macam robot.....tapi ape yang aku masih tak pueh hati...Macam mane 6800 Boleh beat X800 ape dah jadik....Cerita la..OK TATA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 belum tau lg, itu hanya kat benchmark,yg penting kat games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites