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RAID... Ape sebenar yang di maksudkan dengan RAID ? Tolong ye....

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Salam.

Ada motherboard aku tengok review die, die kate Support RAID 0,1,0+1,5.
So kat sini, sebenarnya aku tak faham ape itu RAID.
Aku bukan nak tau tentang mobo tapi RAID.....

Ape fungsi dan peranan RAID ni..

Harap membantu. Saya budak baru belajar.

TQ.

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xenomorf wrote:ok.. sblum bt post dn tya apa2, sila cari cari sendiri coz cam ko x tau fungsi google plak.

tq


Kalau semua nak google, Elok tak yah bukak forum putera ni kalau dah kedekut sangat dengan ilmu.
Kalau nak carik kat website, memang ade, tapi kebanyakannya berbahasa inggeris. Tak semua forumer kat sini tau bahasa inggeris
apatah lagi istilah-istilah it ni.
Tanya kat forum ni bukan ape, senang nak kongsi sebab dan majority forumer berbahasa BM.
Kalau tak nak kongsi elok quit dr PUTERA.com... Simpan dalam almari ilmu tu... Itu namenye BODOH SOMBONG....

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Mobilize15 wrote:
xenomorf wrote:ok.. sblum bt post dn tya apa2, sila cari cari sendiri coz cam ko x tau fungsi google plak.

tq


Kalau semua nak google, Elok tak yah bukak forum putera ni kalau dah kedekut sangat dengan ilmu.
Kalau nak carik kat website, memang ade, tapi kebanyakannya berbahasa inggeris. Tak semua forumer kat sini tau bahasa inggeris
apatah lagi istilah-istilah it ni.


rilek la bro. cuba cari dulu. faham kan perlahan2 jgn nak marah.
tak faham bahasa inggeris boleh belajar kan...jgn marah..
rilek...

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Mobilize15 wrote:
xenomorf wrote:ok.. sblum bt post dn tya apa2, sila cari cari sendiri coz cam ko x tau fungsi google plak.

tq


Kalau semua nak google, Elok tak yah bukak forum putera ni kalau dah kedekut sangat dengan ilmu.
Kalau nak carik kat website, memang ade, tapi kebanyakannya berbahasa inggeris. Tak semua forumer kat sini tau bahasa inggeris
apatah lagi istilah-istilah it ni.
Tanya kat forum ni bukan ape, senang nak kongsi sebab dan majority forumer berbahasa BM.
Kalau tak nak kongsi elok quit dr PUTERA.com... Simpan dalam almari ilmu tu... Itu namenye BODOH SOMBONG....


forum ni cuma tpt bertanya yg ko x phm/masalah yg ko x dpt selesaikn sendiri. klu suma pun nk harap org lain, x tau cari sendiri nnt org lain tya ko, x kn ko nk bt post kat sini plak?

ko tau jg IT ni suma bahasa inggeris, jd apa gn DBP kuarkan kamus? apa gn forum ni di buat. x phm mksud, ko bertanya.

lgpun, jwpn kat dlm ni suma pun cari kat google/yahoo/ask/dogpile/msn jg.

klu da malas sgt, x pyh la ko tau suma pasal IT ni.

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xenomorf wrote:
Mobilize15 wrote:
xenomorf wrote:ok.. sblum bt post dn tya apa2, sila cari cari sendiri coz cam ko x tau fungsi google plak.

tq


Kalau semua nak google, Elok tak yah bukak forum putera ni kalau dah kedekut sangat dengan ilmu.
Kalau nak carik kat website, memang ade, tapi kebanyakannya berbahasa inggeris. Tak semua forumer kat sini tau bahasa inggeris
apatah lagi istilah-istilah it ni.
Tanya kat forum ni bukan ape, senang nak kongsi sebab dan majority forumer berbahasa BM.
Kalau tak nak kongsi elok quit dr PUTERA.com... Simpan dalam almari ilmu tu... Itu namenye BODOH SOMBONG....


forum ni cuma tpt bertanya yg ko x phm/masalah yg ko x dpt selesaikn sendiri. klu suma pun nk harap org lain, x tau cari sendiri nnt org lain tya ko, x kn ko nk bt post kat sini plak?

ko tau jg IT ni suma bahasa inggeris, jd apa gn DBP kuarkan kamus? apa gn forum ni di buat. x phm mksud, ko bertanya.

lgpun, jwpn kat dlm ni suma pun cari kat google/yahoo/ask/dogpile/msn jg.

klu da malas sgt, x pyh la ko tau suma pasal IT ni.


DBP ade keluar kamus IT ke ?
Whatever la... Kalau bagi ilmu kat orang dengan hati yang tak ikhlas, takde faedah jugak...
Kalau aku faham dengan bahasa inggeris tentang RAID ni, takde faedah nye aku tanye kat forum ni...
Aku bertanye tentang hal ni, so aku bermasalah lah dalam bab tu....
Bukan nye seje je nak tanye... Kalau dah tahu buat ape nak tanye...
Tengok cisqo87, die sound elok-elok kat aku.... Itu namanya motivasi.... Tq cisqo87....

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yeah, memang camni sesetangah user kat putera, skit2 google. maybe nak kejar post kot. kalau setakat jawab camtu, baik setiap post jawab camtu.. eg. ko dah makan... google dulu.. ko dah minum? google dulu..

kalau x tau, DIAM, kalau nak suruh google pun, at least, bagi penerangan skit2 pasal persoalan TS...

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dah la jgn gaduh lg.. tak elok.

ni ada aku copy dr web..

Short for Redundant Array of Independent (or Inexpensive) Disks, a category of disk drives that employ two or more drives in combination for fault tolerance and performance. RAID disk drives are used frequently on servers but aren't generally necessary for personal computers. RAID allows you to store the same data redundantly (in multiple paces) in a balanced ay to improve overall performance.

There are number of different RAID levels:
# Level 0 -- Striped Disk Array without Fault Tolerance: Provides data striping (spreading out blocks of each file across multiple disk drives) but no redundancy. This improves performance but does not deliver fault tolerance. If one drive fails then all data in the array is lost.
# Level 1 -- Mirroring and Duplexing: Provides disk mirroring. Level 1 provides twice the read transaction rate of single disks and the same write transaction rate as single disks.
# Level 2 -- Error-Correcting Coding: Not a typical implementation and rarely used, Level 2 stripes data at the bit level rather than the block level.
# Level 3 -- Bit-Interleaved Parity: Provides byte-level striping with a dedicated parity disk. Level 3, which cannot service simultaneous multiple requests, also is rarely used.
# Level 4 -- Dedicated Parity Drive: A commonly used implementation of RAID, Level 4 provides block-level striping (like Level 0) with a parity disk. If a data disk fails, the parity data is used to create a replacement disk. A disadvantage to Level 4 is that the parity disk can create write bottlenecks.
# Level 5 -- Block Interleaved Distributed Parity: Provides data striping at the byte level and also stripe error correction information. This results in excellent performance and good fault tolerance. Level 5 is one of the most popular implementations of RAID.
# Level 6 -- Independent Data Disks with Double Parity: Provides block-level striping with parity data distributed across all disks.
# Level 0+1 -- A Mirror of Stripes: Not one of the original RAID levels, two RAID 0 stripes are created, and a RAID 1 mirror is created over them. Used for both replicating and sharing data among disks.
# Level 10 -- A Stripe of Mirrors: Not one of the original RAID levels, multiple RAID 1 mirrors are created, and a RAID 0 stripe is created over these.
# Level 7: A trademark of Storage Computer Corporation that adds caching to Levels 3 or 4.
# RAID S: (also called Parity RAID) EMC Corporation's proprietary striped parity RAID system used in its Symmetrix storage systems.

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waaa bagus gak list ko kasi tu , aku selalu cari pun keluar sikit2 je takde macam list tu .bagus2 .tq

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wanjihan wrote:dah la jgn gaduh lg.. tak elok.

ni ada aku copy dr web..

Short for Redundant Array of Independent (or Inexpensive) Disks, a category of disk drives that employ two or more drives in combination for fault tolerance and performance. RAID disk drives are used frequently on servers but aren't generally necessary for personal computers. RAID allows you to store the same data redundantly (in multiple paces) in a balanced ay to improve overall performance.

There are number of different RAID levels:
# Level 0 -- Striped Disk Array without Fault Tolerance: Provides data striping (spreading out blocks of each file across multiple disk drives) but no redundancy. This improves performance but does not deliver fault tolerance. If one drive fails then all data in the array is lost.
# Level 1 -- Mirroring and Duplexing: Provides disk mirroring. Level 1 provides twice the read transaction rate of single disks and the same write transaction rate as single disks.
# Level 2 -- Error-Correcting Coding: Not a typical implementation and rarely used, Level 2 stripes data at the bit level rather than the block level.
# Level 3 -- Bit-Interleaved Parity: Provides byte-level striping with a dedicated parity disk. Level 3, which cannot service simultaneous multiple requests, also is rarely used.
# Level 4 -- Dedicated Parity Drive: A commonly used implementation of RAID, Level 4 provides block-level striping (like Level 0) with a parity disk. If a data disk fails, the parity data is used to create a replacement disk. A disadvantage to Level 4 is that the parity disk can create write bottlenecks.
# Level 5 -- Block Interleaved Distributed Parity: Provides data striping at the byte level and also stripe error correction information. This results in excellent performance and good fault tolerance. Level 5 is one of the most popular implementations of RAID.
# Level 6 -- Independent Data Disks with Double Parity: Provides block-level striping with parity data distributed across all disks.
# Level 0+1 -- A Mirror of Stripes: Not one of the original RAID levels, two RAID 0 stripes are created, and a RAID 1 mirror is created over them. Used for both replicating and sharing data among disks.
# Level 10 -- A Stripe of Mirrors: Not one of the original RAID levels, multiple RAID 1 mirrors are created, and a RAID 0 stripe is created over these.
# Level 7: A trademark of Storage Computer Corporation that adds caching to Levels 3 or 4.
# RAID S: (also called Parity RAID) EMC Corporation's proprietary striped parity RAID system used in its Symmetrix storage systems.


Dah.... tak gadoh lagi dah....
Boleh tak terang kan dengan ringkas sekali pasal benda kat atas tu dalam bahasa melayu.... He..He...He...
Aku tak faham lah bahasa inggeris ni. Ringkas je, takyah detail sangat. Nak detail lagi Bagus... He...He...
Supaya aku tahu fungsi sebenar RAID nya dalam sistem komputer...
Jangan suruh aku google pulak edisi bahasa melayu ni ::icon_razz:: .....

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http://www.oprekpc.com/forum/topics10/apa-itu-raid-dan-bagaimana-bikin-raid-di-hdd-sata-vt1620.htm

bro, link di atas dalam bahasa indonesia, "gampanganya" beberapa h/disk digabungkan untuk mendapatkan prestasi yang impak maksima.

baca la snirik, lepas tu kesimpulan, tulis kat sini.. sama-sama belajar...
ko belajar, ako pun blajar..

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marked wrote:http://www.oprekpc.com/forum/topics10/apa-itu-raid-dan-bagaimana-bikin-raid-di-hdd-sata-vt1620.htm

bro, link di atas dalam bahasa indonesia, "gampanganya" beberapa h/disk digabungkan untuk mendapatkan prestasi yang impak maksima.

baca la snirik, lepas tu kesimpulan, tulis kat sini.. sama-sama belajar...
ko belajar, ako pun blajar..

Pandai jugak orang Indonesia berbahasa Inggeris.
Seingat Atuk kebanyakan orang Indonesia pandai berbahasa Belanda.

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aiseh..berlawan falsafah pulak.. memang normal la keadaan camni kat forum: "->noobs tanya soalan:blabla..basic..blabla..tak faham->otai says: google is ur friend->noobs replied:baik takyah ada forum....blabla...->otai:blah ar lu..*sigh*"
aku kata:
haiya...mana ada orang pandai dengan guna google je.kalau camtu baik tak perlu wujud univ.

btw,aku faham situasi tu...bukan senang nak baca artikel komputer bila takde basic(dahla takde basic,tetiba tanya pasal raid 5..aduh...raid 0/1 boleh citer lagi..)
ayat simplenya camni(raid2 yang utama je):

raid ialah gabungan beberapa hard disk untuk perfomance dan reliability.

raid 0 - untuk perfomance,data dikongsi dan dibelah2 kepada 2 atau lebih disk.analoginya=bila ramai orang buat kerja, cepat la siap kerja tu.

raid 1 - untuk reliabiliti.nama lain bagi raid 1 ialah mirror.data ditulis pada lebih 1 disk serentak.so kalau salah satu kong,yang lain dah tunggu je kat belakang.

raid 5 - perfomance + reliability.bila dah buat raid 0, satu2nya risiko yang paling besar ialah,rosak satu bermaksud rosak semua.habis citer.so, kat raid5 ni ada satu lagi volume yang disebut sebagai 'parity' yang simpan cam 'bayangan' data dari stripped disk tadi.(susah nak explain ni,complicated [s]sikit[/s] sangat.rasanya takyah terangkan kot pasal camana parity niberfungsi),
tapi..senang citer raid 5 yang paling basic ada 3 disk.
contohnya:
disk a ngan b buat simpan data(raid 0)
disk c ialah untuk backup.
kalau salah satu disk antara a atau b fail, c boleh gantikan tempat 'si gagal' tu.
camana?sistem akan bandingkan data pada c dan drive yang survive, pastu teruskan operasi restore.
tapi kalau a ngan b fail serentak..habis.takleh selamatkan langsung.

apa yang boleh aku katakan tentang disk c(parity) ialah- dia boleh jadi 'entiti' untk a dan b.


raid 5 lebih efisyen dari raid 0+1 sebab, dengan cara ni disk c cuma perlu separuh kapasiti raid 0 tadi(total volume a+b) berbanding raid0+1 yang buat salinan 1:1 yang juga bermaksud c perlu saiz sama ngan a+b.
raid 0+1 berguna bila dua disk(a+b) rosak.tapi..jarang disk rosak serentak kan?

ps-kalau ada typo tolong cakap eh..tengah sakit kpale nih..

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lpas ni msti rmai yg tkut2 nk post bru sbb tkut kna sound cmgnih..."google la dlu,bru tnya"...ermm..
google google jgk...forum forum jgk...x bley dipisahkn...jd kita kna slarikn kedua2 bnda ni...
sori psai raid memg aku x tau apa...cma aku trasa jgk bl di sound sbgitu rupa...sbb kt putera ni laa aku dpt memahami it dgn mndalm

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huhu... tapi bagi aku still kena google... dapatkan info sket baru tanya..
at least kita akan bertanya dgn cara yang betul.. kalau terlalu umum ..bermacam solution akan timbul dan melambatkan masa sebab kena test 1 persatu solution di bagi.

dan perkara di atas tu takyah amik ati... kalau nak belajar .. kita iya je.. jgn melenting kita tunggu user lain yang leh tolong.

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Be polite OK... jgn memarah kalo ad yg x tau ltg ar... Sikit sama sikit.. cmne org melayu nk maju ashik gnr googlr yg dibuat org yahudi nie... ::lol:: btul x ap aq ckp???

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Assalamualaikum...

tolong kembali ke topik asal..

#Topik ini dipindahkan ke bahagian Papan Induk..

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soalan camnih pun perlu wujud...so reply dari advance forumer akan jadi rujukan pada forumer yang baru belajo...ingat skit...kengkadang ade user dengan selambanyerr taip "apa itu raid" kat google so reply yang akan kuar manatau link dari forum nih.....so berbanggalah skit...

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aku lg la tak berapa tahu tentang semua ni...ade sound aku ker???? miahehheheheh..... aku just masuk nak cari2 ilmu pengetahuan...so jangan sound.... ::icon_lol:: ::icon_wink::

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nie aku bc dr buku it aku la...

RAID nie short form utk Redundant arrays of inexpensive disks
fungsi RAID nie utk membesarkan "external storage" utk improve kan lg kelajuan membace hard disks..
contoh mcm beli "RAID storage device" pastu ltak hard disk byk2 dlm tu then connect antara satu sama lain...
bile computer bc RAID nie, die bc semua hard disk... bkn satu2....
wat speed jd laju sbb setiap hard disk kan ade speed die...
biase RAID nie digunekan utk server la...

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aku tengok la dedua yg mula kn tu ha yg mengada2 jugak sebenarnya,yg ts tu dah la ko tanya org org jawab ko kne la elok budi bahasa baru la ramai yg orang suke,yg lagi sorang tu dok google baik ko x yah ckap kalo google dak kecik pn tau.lagi satu ts tu ha pn bermasalah gak nk melenting pesal,ko tu mintak jawapan dari orang kne sabar,dah tanya kne sabar la.ikut la orang tu nk jawab pe.ngeh2 haprak arr.

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