Msi P45 Platinium Vs Gigabyte Ep45-ds3 P45

[mr_yoshimura 0]

kengkawan. nak tanye satu. antara dua nie mane satu yg terbaik?

skrang nie aku nak beli motherboard and nak buat yg baru. target aku skrang nie nak pakai quad core Q6600 and memory buat mase nie ddr2 value ram 2G 667 mmg dah ade and nak target GC gigabyte 4860. PSU mmg dah ade silverstone 400watt.

memula nak angkat gigabyte p35 ds3 tp cina kat pc zone tu ckp model tue dah tak kuar n suggest aku model p43. tp harga p43 tue lebih kurang rm410 beze ngan gigabtye p45-ds3 tue plak dlm rm490. lebih kurang jer kan. so aku cam rase better angkat p45. betul tak??

so please bgtau klu ade ape2 yg bagus utk aku buat pc nie..

fyi pc nie nak wat main game jer..

Edited August 6, 2008 by mr_yoshimura

[meons 0]

kengkawan. nak tanye satu. antara dua nie mane satu yg terbaik?

skrang nie aku nak beli motherboard and nak buat yg baru. target aku skrang nie nak pakai quad core Q6600 and memory buat mase nie ddr2 value ram 2G 667 mmg dah ade and nak target GC gigabyte 4860. PSU mmg dah ade silverstone 400watt.

memula nak angkat gigabyte p35 ds3 tp cina kat pc zone tu ckp model tue dah tak kuar n suggest aku model p43. tp harga p43 tue lebih kurang rm410 beze ngan gigabtye p45-ds3 tue plak dlm rm490. lebih kurang jer kan. so aku cam rase better angkat p45. betul tak??

so please bgtau klu ade ape2 yg bagus utk aku buat pc nie..

fyi pc nie nak wat main game jer..

kalo ko rasa gitu baik angkat p45-ds3 tuu sebelom menyesal hehehee kalu aku p45 laaa latest beb

kalo ko rasa gitu baik angkat p45-ds3 tuu sebelom menyesal hehehee kalu aku p45 laaa latest beb

tpi kalu ko ada bajet lebih abik asus nya mantap

[syapik (^_^) 0]

ermm bek ko ambk msi p45 pltnium tu..uhuhuh

tp asus pon ok jgak...hhahaa

n giga ak xbpe stju sgt....huhuhu

[DigIT 0]

Pada aku antara dua2 mobo tu baik ko ambik Gigabyte Ep45-ds3 P45... Mobo MSI tu pon ok jugak sebenarnya,tapi susah nak claim waranti...sebab tu kalu ko perasan jarang user guna brand MSI..

[mr_yoshimura 0]

Pada aku antara dua2 mobo tu baik ko ambik Gigabyte Ep45-ds3 P45... Mobo MSI tu pon ok jugak sebenarnya,tapi susah nak claim waranti...sebab tu kalu ko perasan jarang user guna brand MSI..

tp msi salalu buat prob ker bro?

yg aku tau version neo adalah yg terbaik dari msi

itu lah.aku ade try tanye ade satu cina nie. boleh die jawab msi p45 platinium with zalman fan yg tue headsink die yg buat mahal..

tak pasti betul ker tak

aku klu boleh nak stability and worth it. tak de byk masalah..

Edited August 7, 2008 by mr_yoshimura

[mon678 48]

amik mobo gigabyte tak byk mslh, OC pun senang dan Stabil..kata ULTRA COOL....heheeh

[mr_yoshimura 0]

amik mobo gigabyte tak byk mslh, OC pun senang dan Stabil..kata ULTRA COOL....heheeh

nak tanye antara gigabyte ep45-ds3 ngan ep45-ds3r ape beza nyer ek???

ape kelebihan R tue??

mintak pendapat sikit..

[DigIT 0]

Aku pon xpasti sebab malas nak tolong google,tapi pasal ni ko kena alert...huruf tu nmpak biasa je,tp sebenarnya x...contoh,dia beza kapasitor.Samada solid kapasitor @ x.Pastu support RAM ddr3 @ ddr2,energy saving..dll.. sume tu kena amik kira..

[mr_yoshimura 0]

Aku pon xpasti sebab malas nak tolong google,tapi pasal ni ko kena alert...huruf tu nmpak biasa je,tp sebenarnya x...contoh,dia beza kapasitor.Samada solid kapasitor @ x.Pastu support RAM ddr3 @ ddr2,energy saving..dll.. sume tu kena amik kira..

rase nya die same gak.klu ikut beza harga dlm rm50 beza.

nak kena nengok lah dlm gigabyte punya website kurang paham skit.

mintak tolong kengkawan yg byk pengalaman terangkan secara ringkas

[sawi 16]

R = Raid

mobo ada + R ada lebih sikit function dlm BIOS khas utk Raid

lain2...jap aku usya web gigabyte

refer sini, atau tgk gambar kat bawah http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mother...uctID=2843,2842

yg aku highlight kuning tu adalah beza p45-ds3 VS p45-ds3r

Edited August 7, 2008 by sawi

[mr_yoshimura 0]

Aku pon xpasti sebab malas nak tolong google,tapi pasal ni ko kena alert...huruf tu nmpak biasa je,tp sebenarnya x...contoh,dia beza kapasitor.Samada solid kapasitor @ x.Pastu support RAM ddr3 @ ddr2,energy saving..dll.. sume tu kena amik kira..

eh aku dah check lah kat.semua nya same.2 2 solid capasitor and ddr 2 jugak..

tolong kengkawan bgtau perbezaan nyer

[mon678 48]

nie beza die...yg EP45-DS3R ade dan yg EP45-DS3 tak ade ->Built-in TPM chip with 2048bits encryption to highest level digital data protection dan Supports Dolby Home Theater® audio to create a stunning surround sound listening experience, dan juga function RAID mcm en.sawi ckp. ade tulis..kat overview..tak tgk btul2 eh

Edited August 7, 2008 by mon678

[mr_yoshimura 0]

R = Raid

mobo ada + R ada lebih sikit function dlm BIOS khas utk Raid

lain2...jap aku usya web gigabyte

refer sini, atau tgk gambar kat bawah http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Mother...uctID=2843,2842

yg aku highlight kuning tu adalah beza p45-ds3 VS p45-ds3r

oh ok..tq sawi.. tapi kan saya ade nengok dlm youtube pasal mobo nie and die ckp nie lebih kepada design atau multimedia.tak berat sgt ke game.

betul ker?

klu yg msi p45 tue mobo die mmg utk game kan??

nie beza die...yg EP45-DS3R ade dan yg EP45-DS3 tak ade ->Built-in TPM chip with 2048bits encryption to highest level digital data protection dan Supports Dolby Home Theater® audio to create a stunning surround sound listening experience, dan juga function RAID mcm en.sawi ckp. ade tulis..kat overview..tak tgk btul2 eh

terima kasih penerangan anda.

saya paham..

tapi klu berbalik kepada topik di atas mane satu yg terbaik?

[sawi 16]

ada banyak sangat cerita tak sedap didengar ttg p45 chipset, anyway, apa salah aku share, bukan utk tutup semangat ko nak beli mobo p45

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-...et,1961-26.html

Conclusion

Most of the results we found for the new P45 chipset are somewhat disappointing, as we expect a new product generation to at least match the previous one in all relevant disciplines and test categories—especially when it’s an Intel chipset. While this is the case in terms of features, we were not able to find true additional value for the end user, as the added features are not necessarily relevant. In addition, the P45 failed to deliver better performance while it increases power consumption over its predecessor—so much for performance per watt.

The latest Intel chipset for 2008 introduces a few new features, of which only PCI Express 2.0 is nice to have, because the faster interface standard is required to provide maximum bandwidth to the latest graphics cards. Chipset improvements such as Extreme Tuning and Extreme Memory Profiles (XMP) are solid, but of little use for the true enthusiast who tweaks everything manually, and with questionable relevance for beginners, who probably won’t bother with them. However, the features do make sense (up to 16GB RAM is now supported) and they don’t introduce disadvantages for the Intel platform, which continues to be a reliable workhorse for the mainstream despite the lack of palpable progress.

Performance Stagnates, Power Goes Up

Performance-wise, the P45 chipset does not beat the P35, and it is also comparable to the X48. 1600 MHz FSB speeds are not officially supported by Intel, but most motherboard makers added support for it anyway. However, we found little to no performance differences between the 1333 MHz and 1600 MHz speeds in virtually all benchmarks, and none of our P45 samples was capable of clearly outperforming the P35 boards when it comes to overclocking. We reached 525 MHz on the Asus P5Q-E, which can also be reached by some P35 products.

At the same time, all P45 motherboards required up to 10 W more power than P35 motherboards, on average, and this is independent of the type and efficiency of the voltage regulators used. The new 65 nm PCI Express 2.0 chipset clearly consumes more power than the P35 across the board, which we don’t find convincing when we look at the stagnating performance.

Finally, performance for USB 2.0 and SATA operation has slightly decreased as well. We found that the ICH9 is quicker when it comes to USB 2.0 throughput and maximum transfer rates in RAID operation. At least Intel managed to improve I/O performance, clearly outperforming all other built-in SATA RAID controllers in this discipline. Unfortunately, that isn’t very relevant to desktop users.

Waiting for Nehalem

Finally, our conclusion is simple: the P45 is a transitional product that makes limited sense. It is not worth purchasing a P45 platform system, unless you insist on PCI Express 2.0 and want to avoid forking out the money for an X48 motherboard or a platform based on Nvidia’s nForce 790i Ultra SLI. The P45 doesn’t deliver better performance, while it increases average power consumption. It offers some new features, but it cuts back on USB 2.0 and SATA throughput.

If you want to buy a new Intel system today, P35 will most likely be the best option, as real benefits such as USB 3.0 and architectural advances are still only on the horizon. If you already have a Core 2 system or a fast Athlon 64 X2 or Phenom, you shouldn’t rush now. It makes more sense to for wait for Intel’s Nehalem architecture with the X58 chipset, as well as AMD’s Socket AM3 platform. Although the mainstream versions won’t be around before 2009, the enthusiast product launches will provide a good preview of what to expect.

atau baca gak kat sini : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=741559&hl=

Edited August 7, 2008 by sawi

[mr_yoshimura 0]

ada banyak sangat cerita tak sedap didengar ttg p45 chipset, anyway, apa salah aku share, bukan utk tutup semangat ko nak beli mobo p45

atau baca gak kat sini : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=741559&hl=

en sawi..mmg pada mula nya aku nak angkat epep35-ds3. tp smlm aku pegi lowyat diorg ckp model tue dah takde dah..die suggest ep43.tp beza ep 43 ker 45 tak byk beza tue yg aku trus nak wat survey tue..

tp klu ko lah mobo ape yg bagus tuk main game?

budget dlm harga rm500-rm600 camtu lah..

[mon678 48]

tgk reviews nie -> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2325042,00.asp

[mr_yoshimura 0]

tgk reviews nie -> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2325042,00.asp

yg tue plak EP45-DS3L plak. L tue utk ape plak?

tapi nengok kepada board die PCI-E slot ade satu jer kan..

mungkin tue kot beza nyer... tp review die dpt excellent.

tp nengok kat list low yat diorg tak jual lagi model nie..

yg ade EP43-DS3L jer yg ade. chipset p45 takde jual lagi

klu ade berapa ek kat malaysia harga die?

[mon678 48]

bezanye btul ar tue ep45-DS3 ade dua PCIE,Ep45-DS3L ade satu jerk...tapi chipset yg sama, Ultra Durable sama tue jerk beza...amik jerk EP45-DS3 tue berbaloi..

[mr_yoshimura 0]

bezanye btul ar tue ep45-DS3 ade dua PCIE,Ep45-DS3L ade satu jerk...tapi chipset yg sama, Ultra Durable sama tue jerk beza...amik jerk EP45-DS3 tue berbaloi..

baca tak yg en sawi antar tadi tue..

Most of the results we found for the new P45 chipset are somewhat disappointing, as we expect a new product generation to at least match the previous one in all relevant disciplines and test categories⦣8364;â€especially when it⦣8364;â„¢s an Intel chipset. While this is the case in terms of features, we were not able to find true additional value for the end user, as the added features are not necessarily relevant. In addition, the P45 failed to deliver better performance while it increases power consumption over its predecessor⦣8364;â€so much for performance per watt.

mungkin EP45-DS3L tue bagus pasal die satu jer slot utk PCI-E tak mcm EP45-DS3 ade dua slot. bile pakai dua slot die punya pegi tak sgt tp lagi menaikkan power consumption die..

arghhh...

pening pening..

tadi nengok review pasal asus maximus 2 tue.. perghh gempak ek!!!tp harga pon gempak tuee...

[mon678 48]

tak jgn slh phm...sbnrnye mmg btul dlm article tue chipset P45 sama jerk function dlm P35 chipset tak ade beza sbb diaorg ckp kecewa sbb diaorg hrpkan function lebih dari chipset P35...yg bezakan P45 ade PCIE 2.0 dan 45NM proc support...mmg ar P45 consume byk power sbb gune PCIE 2.0 untuk boost 16x PCIE jd 32x...yg mmbezakan EP45-DS3 dgn EP45-DS3L satu jerk...EP45-DS3 blh buat CrossFire x coz ade dua PCIE 2.0....yg EP45-D3L tak blh CrossFire...sbb tue ade satu PCIE 2.0 jerk

p/s:kalau buat CrossFire atau SLI mmg consume byk power..tak caye tnya mod ZeroNezha

Edited August 7, 2008 by mon678

[mr_yoshimura 0]

tak jgn slh phm...sbnrnye mmg btul dlm article tue chipset P45 sama jerk function dlm P35 chipset tak ade beza sbb diaorg ckp kecewa sbb diaorg hrpkan function lebih dari chipset P35...yg bezakan P45 ade PCIE 2.0 dan 45NM proc support...mmg ar P45 consume byk power sbb gune PCIE 2.0 untuk boost 16x PCIE jd 32x...yg mmbezakan EP45-DS3 dgn EP45-DS3L satu jerk...EP45-DS3 blh buat CrossFire x coz ade dua PCIE 2.0....yg EP45-D3L tak blh CrossFire...sbb tue ade satu PCIE 2.0 jerk

p/s:kalau buat CrossFire atau SLI mmg consume byk power..tak caye tnya mod ZeroNezha

wah..tq tq..nampak nye ini byk membantu...nanti mon678 ko tolong aku lagi ok ape yg patut lagi...

[Battousai 0]

tak jgn slh phm...sbnrnye mmg btul dlm article tue chipset P45 sama jerk function dlm P35 chipset tak ade beza sbb diaorg ckp kecewa sbb diaorg hrpkan function lebih dari chipset P35...yg bezakan P45 ade PCIE 2.0 dan 45NM proc support...mmg ar P45 consume byk power sbb gune PCIE 2.0 untuk boost 16x PCIE jd 32x...yg mmbezakan EP45-DS3 dgn EP45-DS3L satu jerk...EP45-DS3 blh buat CrossFire x coz ade dua PCIE 2.0....yg EP45-D3L tak blh CrossFire...sbb tue ade satu PCIE 2.0 jerk

p/s:kalau buat CrossFire atau SLI mmg consume byk power..tak caye tnya mod ZeroNezha

P35 tak boleh support pcie2.0 & 45nm proc ke? check btol2 bro seblom kluakan kenyataan..

Mr_yoshimura kalau ko nak slamat dan jimat baik angkat cipset p35 bebanding p45 yg lagi mahal, p45 sementare je sblom 'x58 & nahalem' klua, kang menyesal je klua duit2 banyak2 kalau kau nak upgred rig secare keseluruhan baik tunggu taun depan time 'nahalem' klua. tapi kalau nak upgred skang belije p35...lg 1 aku rase c2d8400 lg best dr q6600 sbab games skang pon bukanye full support quad core..

: dengar cite nahalem dah x pakai fsb..so soket pon rasenye lainlah kot? sbab tu adenye x58..

[mr_yoshimura 0]

P35 tak boleh support pcie2.0 & 45nm proc ke? check btol2 bro seblom kluakan kenyataan..

Mr_yoshimura kalau ko nak slamat dan jimat baik angkat cipset p35 bebanding p45 yg lagi mahal, p45 sementare je sblom 'x58 & nahalem' klua, kang menyesal je klua duit2 banyak2 kalau kau nak upgred rig secare keseluruhan baik tunggu taun depan time 'nahalem' klua. tapi kalau nak upgred skang belije p35...lg 1 aku rase c2d8400 lg best dr q6600 sbab games skang pon bukanye full support quad core..

: dengar cite nahalem dah x pakai fsb..so soket pon rasenye lainlah kot? sbab tu adenye x58..

tp p35 dah tak kuar market.. skrang yg kuar bak kata cina low yat tue p43 replacement utk p35..

wah baguss..info terbaru tue..

aku budget pon mobo ni utk pakai lama..so tue yg ingat nak upgrade kasi best so next time takyah pening2 kuar duit lagi..

so please advise aku ape yg patut

[Battousai 0]

tp p35 dah tak kuar market.. skrang yg kuar bak kata cina low yat tue p43 replacement utk p35..

wah baguss..info terbaru tue..

aku budget pon mobo ni utk pakai lama..so tue yg ingat nak upgrade kasi best so next time takyah pening2 kuar duit lagi..

so please advise aku ape yg patut

pecaye sgat r cakap cine tu! die nak untung tu psal die nak ko beli p43! blambak lg kedai kat lowyat tu ser've je lah..

Edited August 7, 2008 by yukimura

[mr_yoshimura 0]

pecaye sgat r cakap cine tu! die nak untung tu psal die nak ko beli p43! blambak lg kedai kat lowyat tu ser've je lah..

itulah..so mmg byk game tak support quad ker?abis yg beli extreame tue rugi jer lah ek..

aku mmg nak beli yg stable n long lasting lah..

itu nak tanye pendapat korang semua nie..