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So tak ada sesiapa boleh berikan feedback first hand experience samada Wealthy Affiliate tu positif or negatif ke??

Harap sangat kalau ada...mesti akan banyak membantu orang lain juga membuat penilaian. blush.gif

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QUOTE (Arissa Nightingale @ Dec 3 2008, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So tak ada sesiapa boleh berikan feedback first hand experience samada Wealthy Affiliate tu positif or negatif ke??

Harap sangat kalau ada...mesti akan banyak membantu orang lain juga membuat penilaian. blush.gif



penin betoi hang ni... tongue.gif

hokhokhok

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QUOTE (DisepelayINbright @ Dec 4 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WA best.. join aja.kalo ko tak suka.. terus quit.


Err..

OKlah. Walopun agak tak puas hati dengan feedback, but saya rasa memang saya kena join dulu.





QUOTE (Razory @ Dec 4 2008, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
penin betoi hang ni... tongue.gif

hokhokhok


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Dah beberapa hari..

Kenapa dah tak ada perbincnagan lagi pasal niche? Saya ingatkan ramai yang buat?

Ke.. semua berjalan lancar dan dah earn beratus dollar sehari? happy.gif

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QUOTE(Arissa Nightingale @ Dec 4 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Err..

OKlah. Walopun agak tak puas hati dengan feedback, but saya rasa memang saya kena join dulu.







tongue.gif




Dah beberapa hari..

Kenapa dah tak ada perbincnagan lagi pasal niche? Saya ingatkan ramai yang buat?

Ke.. semua berjalan lancar dan dah earn beratus dollar sehari? happy.gif



Ada yang busy kot hujung2 tahun nie...exam atau siapkan report utk kerja...aku akan join WA hari nie...huhuhu

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QUOTE(yuzafi @ Dec 4 2008, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ada yang busy kot hujung2 tahun nie...exam atau siapkan report utk kerja...aku akan join WA hari nie...huhuhu



Salam,

ada sesapa kat sini pernah guna debit visa al-rajhi utk daftar WA?aku cuba tak boleh pakailah kad nie..kenapa ek?

Tq

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QUOTE(Arissa Nightingale @ Dec 3 2008, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So tak ada sesiapa boleh berikan feedback first hand experience samada Wealthy Affiliate tu positif or negatif ke??

Harap sangat kalau ada...mesti akan banyak membantu orang lain juga membuat penilaian. blush.gif



a simple comment :

WA tak bagus....
WA negative..
WA takda aper pon..
WA is KO..
WA memeningkan..


if because you are lazy and don't want to effort urself..
never to take action..


WA is good..
WA is OK..
WA is positive..
WA is many VALUE things..
WA can guide you..


if because you effort yourself, research and research...
menghayati ape yg korang baca dan take action apa yang dibaca..




have a nice day... rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE (Arissa Nightingale @ Dec 4 2008, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Err..

OKlah. Walopun agak tak puas hati dengan feedback, but saya rasa memang saya kena join dulu.



tongue.gif


Dah beberapa hari..

Kenapa dah tak ada perbincnagan lagi pasal niche? Saya ingatkan ramai yang buat?

Ke.. semua berjalan lancar dan dah earn beratus dollar sehari? happy.gif



cik ni ('Arissa Nightingale' )sopan r, ..
...............................................

Rizuwan lame tak nampak ape cerita sekarang.. rolleyes.gif

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betol macam Rizuwan cakap.. WA just tempat untuk belajar.
kalo minat belajar.. dah tentu tempat tu jadi best.
tatau camna nak kasi feedback kat ko.kalo aku cakap best, mungkin plak ko akan cakap tak best nanti.
the best way is.. try sendiri. then ko sendiri plak kasi feedback kat kekawan lain biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (DisepelayINbright @ Dec 4 2008, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
betol macam Rizuwan cakap.. WA just tempat untuk belajar.
kalo minat belajar.. dah tentu tempat tu jadi best.
tatau camna nak kasi feedback kat ko.kalo aku cakap best, mungkin plak ko akan cakap tak best nanti.
the best way is.. try sendiri. then ko sendiri plak kasi feedback kat kekawan lain biggrin.gif



OK thanks happy.gif

Saya baru join tadi.

Nak navigate sikit tgk apa ada.. blush.gif

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salam...nak tanya...macam mana upah orang buat web site....brapa ringgit kos dia
pastu bahaya x kalau macam tukang buat website tu curi idea kita ke atau pape lagi...


tq

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Lalalallalala... jalan-jalan dalam Putera.

Lalalallalala... masuk thread nampak Arissa.


Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


QUOTE (pirdaus @ Dec 4 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
salam...nak tanya...macam mana upah orang buat web site....brapa ringgit kos dia
pastu bahaya x kalau macam tukang buat website tu curi idea kita ke atau pape lagi...


tq


Ha... nak tahu kos?? hohoho...

Ko tanya finix.

Ada kot dalam USD 500 ke USD 1500 untuk basic web.

Dia tak reti wat website so semua dia outsource.. (tulah.. tak mau belajar.. baru sekarang nak belajar.. hokkohkohkohkohkoh).

But orang mcm nie.. ko jgn risau takut diorang curik idea ke apa ke. Diorang takkan wat camtuh. Pasal itu mata pencarian mereka.

Most of the time diorang tak minat pun ngan niche marketing... their concern is only money and their customers. So no.. tak pernah aku dengar kes pembuat website curik idea.



Sambung balik..

Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ph34r.gif

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QUOTE (Crimson Star @ Dec 4 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lalalallalala... jalan-jalan dalam Putera.

Lalalallalala... masuk thread nampak Arissa.


Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sambung balik..

Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ph34r.gif


weh tunggu....... larrrriiiiiiiiiiiiii.................. laugh.gif

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Aku nak tanya tentang adgroup keyword and landing page.
Perkara yang aku kurang faham....contoh:

Kalau aku buat adgroup dengan keyword tattoos for women dan chinese lettering tattoo, macam mana dengan landing page? Aku kena buat buat 2 landing page ker? Setahu aku kalau aku buat LP tentang Tattoos for women, then LP tu tak relevan lagi dengan chinese lettering tattoo. Bukan begitu ker? Aku tak berapa faham dengan create adgroup dalam 8 weeks action plan tu. Slow sket aku ni, english pun tak power.

Just want to share...
Petikan dari post Travis dalam WA forum. "Sample Campaign Analysis"

QUOTE
"Yes...not to be brash...but this may be the crux of your problem...

This business is about money...not traffic...

traffic does NOT necessarily mean money...I have keywords that get 10 clicks a day...and I usually have 1 sale at least a day....

Do not rely heavily on Overture...

Overtures database is 6 months old! I made a killing on almost anything related to PSP when they came out...cuz all the IM'ers weren't seeing any searches for PSP...the overture estimates...ARE STILL WAY OFF.

AND...

If like in my ringtone example...if you think there are not HUNDREDS of searches a day on a HOT new song to get RINGTONES...you would be a mistaken chap! (you do not need Overture to tell you so)

IMO...this is one of the biggest illusions in IM....I NEED MORE TRAFFIC...when what you need are MORE CONVERSIONS....

I have another keyword phrase...that only gets 20 clicks a day...I average 2 sales a day...it converts consistently at 1:10...it makes me $50 a day with a $6 to $7 ad cost...per day!

I have another keyword that gets about 40 clicks a month...I usually average 2 sales a month...and get this...commission is $100 per sale...

NOW...with all of that said...I like traffic as much as the next guy! And I work really hard doing research...and building landing pages that hits hot buttons like crazy...and I have campaigns that get 100's of clicks a day on 1 keyword...and I convert those at 2% to 3%...it is great money...

But always put priority on SALES...not traffic

Travis

PS PSP Downloads will bring you a crap load of traffic...How are your sales?

PPS This one mindset was very much responsible from me losing money in PPC and getting to where I am today...

If I gave you $100 and said turn this into $200 because your LIFE depends on it...

What keywords would you choose?

Would you gamble it on "psp downloads"

or

psp movie download site
legal psp movie download site
how do i put movies on psp

watch godfather on psp
etc
etc

I would target people looking to BUY NOW!

psp downloads is a browsing keyword

best psp download site...is someone that has cash in hand...and just wants to be assured he is making the best decision.

and then...would you send all that traffic to ONE landing page?...if your life depended on it...I bet you would create multiple landing pages.

REALLY...REALLY...think about this mindset and concept!"



Ini mungkin pnyelesaian salah satu masalah aku dlm cari keyword.
This business is about money...not traffic...

traffic does NOT necessarily mean money...

Edited by Swing

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QUOTE (kamikase30 @ Dec 4 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
weh tunggu....... larrrriiiiiiiiiiiiii.................. laugh.gif



waaa lari ke? pelik la CS ni.. dry.gif

aku pon same laa..

nk lari la.. laugh.gif

jom lari ramai2..jom!

1 2 3

lari!!!!!!!!!!! tongue.gif












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hmm..rmai marketers y fokus pd google adwords.. yahoo & msn pun tggi jgk visitornye rite..so nape kita x fokus je pd yahoo tau msn?at least competitor kurenggg...n senang dpt higher ranking..tau pndpt aku ni silap?sori ye kalau aku silap.aku just ingn tahu je.harap bro otai2 dpt bg comments.

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QUOTE (Crimson Star @ Dec 4 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lalalallalala... jalan-jalan dalam Putera.

Lalalallalala... masuk thread nampak Arissa.


Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Ha... nak tahu kos?? hohoho...

Ko tanya finix.

Ada kot dalam USD 500 ke USD 1500 untuk basic web.

Dia tak reti wat website so semua dia outsource.. (tulah.. tak mau belajar.. baru sekarang nak belajar.. hokkohkohkohkohkoh).

But orang mcm nie.. ko jgn risau takut diorang curik idea ke apa ke. Diorang takkan wat camtuh. Pasal itu mata pencarian mereka.

Most of the time diorang tak minat pun ngan niche marketing... their concern is only money and their customers. So no.. tak pernah aku dengar kes pembuat website curik idea.



Sambung balik..

Wahhh..... larrrriiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ph34r.gif



Crimson and his usual sarcasm. Always make my day.

I guess internet is your specialty anyway. Been doing the same old thing every now and then.

Of course I can't beat you on your own game right?

How about another set....a new one?

Are you as bold as you are on the internet?? Or perhaps you are just the man next door who would chickened out pretty quick and just do the usual "I don't fight girls since I'm a gentleman" kind of thing as all male usually does?

So.... care to take me on?? My Zed and your Caldina. Next Sunday. Usual place.

*Ups...I forgot. Caldina aren't allowed on the track. ~sigh... laugh.gif





QUOTE (Swing @ Dec 4 2008, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aku nak tanya tentang adgroup keyword and landing page.
Perkara yang aku kurang faham....contoh:

Kalau aku buat adgroup dengan keyword tattoos for women dan chinese lettering tattoo, macam mana dengan landing page? Aku kena buat buat 2 landing page ker? Setahu aku kalau aku buat LP tentang Tattoos for women, then LP tu tak relevan lagi dengan chinese lettering tattoo. Bukan begitu ker? Aku tak berapa faham dengan create adgroup dalam 8 weeks action plan tu. Slow sket aku ni, english pun tak power.




Just want to share my own opinion...if you don't mind reading my 'not worth even a dime' comment.

The thing about Pay per Click is.... just like what Travis suggest.... depends solely on the power of relevancy.


Let me ask you a question.

Let's say, I'm someone who have been diagnosed with... let say panic attack. I have all the symptoms. And the cause is...I am afraid of driving.

with me so far?


And then...you as an affiliate... sells a product that is supposed to solve panic attack problems targeted to all sort of panic attack issues.

What next??

Well, as usual you created only one landing page (from now on I'll be referring to it as LP) and here's your headline:

Immediate Anxiety Relief
A Natural Technique To Stop
Panic Attacks and General Anxiety Fast!



Uh-huh.

Looks good. But you want to know the truth?? It is simply boring and dud...was it going to make you any sales? Is it going to make you any sales??

I'd say no.

In fact you'll be losing more money and just make Google richer....just like 95% of marketers out there.

Why would I say that? Because apart of being 'plain boring and an eye sore to everyone'.. it is just way too general.

If i were having panic attacks.....you can bet 99% chances I won't even look at your LP at all. As simple as that.

Got me so far??



So let say....another marketers...got a bit of idea....and construct another LP. This time it sounds like this:

Immediate Anxiety Relief
A Natural Technique To Stop
Panic Attacks
during Driving Now!!


Yup...you guess it right.

You just increase the potential of me becoming your customers to a profitable 80%!!


Got me??



Now let's address your question specifically...

Your problem is...you don't know how to build your LP.

The real problems though.... you aren't so sure about how to approach and target your audience.

I've been browsing WA's tutorial section for a while....and I found that Kyle and Carson likes to gives emphasis on specifics and relevancies. They nailed it down until there's no way to hyper target it anymore.

Your first problems is your first keyword... tattoos for women.

Let me ask you another question.

Do you really think any women would go to your LP and buy when all they type in Google Search Engine is tattoos for women??

I don't think so...

So if you go on creating a LP targeting and emphasizing specifically on this one keyword...chances are you will lose a lot of money. In fact I am willing to bet $1000 dollars that you won't make even a dime bidding on that keyword. Because...like the articles of travis you quoted...that is a browsing keyword. Too general.

So do your research more...and learn how to build better keyword groups.


Now your other question is:

QUOTE
Aku kena buat buat 2 landing page ker? Setahu aku kalau aku buat LP tentang Tattoos for women, then LP tu tak relevan lagi dengan chinese lettering tattoo.


In the example I've given you before...obviously when you build your LP and gives emphasis on 'Panic Attacks while driving'...for sure you can't use it for people with panic attacks cure for children. That's obvious.

What do you do??

You create another LP...

This time...make it like this:

Immediate Anxiety Relief
A Natural Technique To Stop
Panic Attacks
for Your Children. Give Your
Children a Happier Lifestyle They Deserve Now!!



So you now have two LP.

What if you have another?? Maybe keywords or you managed to identify a new market. Maybe Panic Attacks on the plane??

You create another LP specifically addressing those issues.

That is niche marketing. That is why people called it niche. It's about nailing down as specific as you can and make a killing for your income from these tiny winy little market. Be specifics. And when you are specific...you will be more inclined towards relevancy because you are approaching them with a more specific problems they are having.


Got me??

So in your case...yes! Create two LP. And make it as specific as possible.

And then show it to 'the great Crimson' so the so called expert can give his wisdom again in his usual sarcastic manner.

Though I would suggest you ditch your two keywords and go search for something more specifics.



Your final question:

QUOTE
Aku tak berapa faham dengan create adgroup dalam 8 weeks action plan tu. Slow sket aku ni, english pun tak power.


You can't even create a proper LP and you already bother yourself with Adgroups?? Well...... a first sign of failure I would say.

Sorry to discourage you. But really...while I am not that familiar with WA's tutorial yet...I did notice that they have organize their tutorials in such manner where you should master the previous lessons before moving toward something more advance.

But let's talk about it anyway....

Adgroups are created based on theme. Or in WA's own terms....'Common Keyword'.

You search for something common within a keyword. And group them as such.


Let's see travis' example:

psp movie download site
legal psp movie download site
how do i put movies on psp
watch godfather on psp

For these four keywords...in my opinion the best way to group them is to build a foundation of 3+ keyword first.

The first one I can think of is:

PSP movie download (Adgroup #1)

Keywords under it should be-

psp movie download site
legal psp movie download site


And then...

Put Movies PSP (Adgroup #2) - I'd love to put 'On' as well but I figure Google won't take On as a legit keyword. So I decided on Put instead.

Keyword under it should be-

put movies on psp
put movies on psp tutorials
how do i put movies on psp



And finally...

Watch Godfather PSP (Adgroup #3)

Keyword should be-

watch godfather psp
watch godfather on psp



This is interesting by the way.

Because you can group your keywords like these...you can start targeting available movies for PSP and create your adgroup specifically addressing each films respectively.


QUOTE
Just want to share...
Petikan dari post Travis dalam WA forum. "Sample Campaign Analysis"




Ini mungkin pnyelesaian salah satu masalah aku dlm cari keyword.
This business is about money...not traffic...

traffic does NOT necessarily mean money...



What Travis is trying to imply... is that you should find keywords that converts instead of focusing too much on traffic.


Find keywords that are more inclined towards making you sales.



Sure...you can bid on 'Weight Loss' keyword and judging from the amount of search made everyday.... you can safely assume that at least 100 will go to your website everyday (depending on your adspend ofcourse). But it's no use if no one is buying right?? That means the keywords aren't converting.

But try bidding on super specifics keywords like 'lose weight fast for a wedding'. Sure...the amount of traffic will definitely be lesser but....from 10 people you might make at least one sale. That is if your LP is targeted for 'people who wants to lose weight for their wedding'.



Simple right??





OK guys. I'm sorry for butting in and talk way too much nonsense. I'm still relatively new here anyway...so chances are everyone here would know a lot more than me...that's for sure.

So please forgive me for my intrusion with my 'not worth even a dime' comment.

And please continue your discussion as usual.


Have fun everyone and I wish you all prosperous future with your niche business happy.gif Edited by Arissa Nightingale

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phoenix, aku nak buat produk e-book psl bodybuilding dan fitness.
ko rasa boleh belah tak


Chow

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wow. you're sumthin arissa. crimson, member of yours? her post kinda kick-a$$ also.
(it kicked mine...hawhawhaw) chekgu baru ke? Edited by BrainDeadAngel

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tuelah...cik arissa tu mesti otai IM gak...bleh tahan explanation dia.. laugh.gif

Saper yg kat sini dah join WA...aper nick korang kat sana ??leh gak add friend..

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aiyo, post kt sini sume panjang2 belaka, tak buat another section ka? lagipun this is the thread, nice info btw, terlalu ramai yang beri info panjang2, jd agak berbelit sedikit penerangan tuan topik dgn penerangan user lain. Diharap tuan topik boleh lah kongsi info yg lebih lagi yang ada dalam WA dan bawa kat cni yer.Nice dude! yay!! laugh.gif

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