gila_game25 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2008 erm, nk tumpang thread. camne nk knal RAM tu ade dual channel? tgk RAM kit (contoh= 1GBx2) kt kdai ke ape?? dan, DC ni cam dual core ek?? brape rege bley dpt? noobies here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wira4ce 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2008 Try overclock ram OCZ Reaper ko, tgk boleh ke tak dia reach 13XXMHz macam Crucial Ballistix / Crucial Ballistix Tracer. Confirm tak boleh. OCZ Reaper DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz pakai chipset tak boleh blah.Tak berbaloi beli, kalau nak beli performance ram, pastikan dia pakai chipset sedap, kalau beli performance ram tapi performance ram tu pakai chipset tak boleh blah, buat pe? Baik beli valueram. Membazir duit je beli performance ram yang pakai chipset tak boleh blah. eh? ye ke? aku tak penah lak wat sampai 1300, hurm takpo aku try tenkiyu for da information Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mon678 48 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 erm, nk tumpang thread. camne nk knal RAM tu ade dual channel? tgk RAM kit (contoh= 1GBx2) kt kdai ke ape?? dan, DC ni cam dual core ek?? brape rege bley dpt? noobies here.dual channel tue ade kat mobonye spec ar...bkn kat RAM...yg RAM kit(1gbx2) tue Performance RAM..kalau value RAM tak ade jual mcm RAM kit tue :lol: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adib_han 1 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 dual channel tue ade kat mobonye spec ar...bkn kat RAM...yg RAM kit(1gbx2) tue Performance RAM..kalau value RAM tak ade jual mcm RAM kit tue :lol:ye... sumanya ats mobo support ke x... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syrup 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 nk tnye ckt.apsal ram team elite mhal gler.ak tgok timing die bese je.gtau pe special nye ram ni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gila_game25 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 dual channel tue ade kat mobonye spec ar...bkn kat RAM...yg RAM kit(1gbx2) tue Performance RAM..kalau value RAM tak ade jual mcm RAM kit tue :lol:abis, mane2 RAM ddr2 ni ade dual channel ke camne?? aq check kt cpuz run single channel jek yes, mobo sapot dual channel cume 667mhz je. tgh fenin ni men game asyik sangkut je. pe minimum utk RAM skrang eh? 1GB pon x lps ke? sori bro syrup, soklan x dpt dijawab psl RAM bru nk start blaja . sje nk tumpang thread maleh nk bkak yg bru. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adnan_tdd 4 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 abis, mane2 RAM ddr2 ni ade dual channel ke camne?? aq check kt cpuz run single channel jek yes, mobo sapot dual channel cume 667mhz je. tgh fenin ni men game asyik sangkut je. pe minimum utk RAM skrang eh? 1GB pon x lps ke? kalau nak run dual channel kenalah ada 2 keping atau 4 keping jenis yang sama.Kalau guna RAM Kingston 1gb 667mhz, RAM yang 3 keping lagi mestilah yang sama dia punya MHZ dan dia punya gb.Kalau tak silap aku RAM 800mhz pun boleh run dual channel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pakau 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 abis, mane2 RAM ddr2 ni ade dual channel ke camne?? aq check kt cpuz run single channel jek yes, mobo sapot dual channel cume 667mhz je. tgh fenin ni men game asyik sangkut je. pe minimum utk RAM skrang eh? 1GB pon x lps ke? sori bro syrup, soklan x dpt dijawab psl RAM bru nk start blaja . sje nk tumpang thread maleh nk bkak yg bru.untuk zaman skang,kena pakai 2@4keping ram dan kena letak pd slot yg betul baru ada dual channel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gila_game25 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 kalau nak run dual channel kenalah ada 2 keping atau 4 keping jenis yang sama.Kalau guna RAM Kingston 1gb 667mhz, RAM yang 3 keping lagi mestilah yang sama dia punya MHZ dan dia punya gb.Kalau tak silap aku RAM 800mhz pun boleh run dual channelso, kalo ade dua slot RAM, masukkan dua RAM yg same spec, automatic akan run sbagai Dual Channel. baru faham .667mhz pon leh run dual channel TQ . ssah gak nk blajo RAM ni. timing2 ni start fenin dah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adib_han 1 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 so, kalo ade dua slot RAM, masukkan dua RAM yg same spec, automatic akan run sbagai Dual Channel. baru faham .667mhz pon leh run dual channel TQ . ssah gak nk blajo RAM ni. timing2 ni start fenin dah.jangan pening2.... alah.. kalo timing nih mudah ajer... kalo timing rendah tu lagi performance RAM.. kalo timing tinggi tu untuk kestabilan RAM (selalunyer overclockers wat RAM diorang timing tinggi nak kasi stabil)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mon678 48 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 jangan pening2.... alah.. kalo timing nih mudah ajer... kalo timing rendah tu lagi performance RAM.. kalo timing tinggi tu untuk kestabilan RAM (selalunyer overclockers wat RAM diorang timing tinggi nak kasi stabil)...lgi tinggi timing tue lg stabil ker?bkn lg panas(berwap2)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gila_game25 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 jangan pening2.... alah.. kalo timing nih mudah ajer... kalo timing rendah tu lagi performance RAM.. kalo timing tinggi tu untuk kestabilan RAM (selalunyer overclockers wat RAM diorang timing tinggi nak kasi stabil)...meaning, rendah performance, tinggi stabil?? btul ke ni?bkan timing tinggi utk performance dan timing rendah adalah stabil?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhian 38 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 nk tnye ckt.apsal ram team elite mhal gler.ak tgok timing die bese je.gtau pe special nye ram niram team elite nih datang dalam bentuk kit 1gbx2 dan 2gbx2.juga mempunyai chipset yg agak baik tuk dioc.meaning, rendah performance, tinggi stabil?? btul ke ni?bkan timing tinggi utk performance dan timing rendah adalah stabil??terbalik la ko nih..timing tinggi tuk kestabilan..timing rendah tuk performance.lgi tinggi timing tue lg stabil ker?bkn lg panas(berwap2)? yup lagi tggi lagi stabil..timing tak beri kesan panas..speed n voltage ram yg memberi kesan panas.biasa kalo oc lagi tggi speed ram yg kita nak lagi tggi voltage kita perlu letak maka makin panas la ram tu.jadi perlu la letak cooler tambaham tuk ram tu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adib_han 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 meaning, rendah performance, tinggi stabil?? btul ke ni?bkan timing tinggi utk performance dan timing rendah adalah stabil??timing rendah performance n timing tinggi kestabilan... harap faham... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sHäwTY™ 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Dual Channel ni macam ni.Kat Valueram ada, kat high performance punya ram pun ada.Nak dapat Dual Channel ni, yang paling penting, korang kena ada dua batang [batang ram, bkn batang lain ] yang sama, saiz yang sama, chipset yang sama.Kalau nak senang dapat Dual Channel, beli ram yang sama brand, tapi kena tgk gak, kalau chipset lain, lain plak jadinya nanti.Kalau high performance ram, selalunya dia datang directly dalam Dual Channel Kit.Bila beli yang Dual Channel kit ni, ko takyah bimbang, sebab slalunya dia akan letak ram yang sama saiz, sama chipset dan paling best, datang dari batch yang sama.Batch ni memainkan peranan penting gak.Ada batch yang sedap oc, ada yang hampeh.Dual Channel ni dari zaman DDR1 dah ada.Pasal timing ni, hardcore overclockers selalunya carik highest speed at the lowest timing possible.Macam sekarang ni, record paling terbaik, 1250MHz @ 5-5-5-12 <- yang ni ketat gila, tapi masalahnya, sekarang ni, hanya ada beberapa brand je yang boleh buat macam tu.Timing ni memainkan peranan penting, kalau setakat speed je tinggi, tapi timing sengal, baik ko takyah oc.Contohnya, DDR2 PC2-8000 1000MHz @ 5-5-5-15 takde beza pun dengan DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz @ 4-4-4-12.Kalau dapat buat DDR2 PC2-8000 1000MHz @ 4-4-4-12, sedap la.Kalau ko dapat run ram tu kat 1:1 ratio paling best, tapi, macam biasa lah, bila korang nak buat 1:1 ratio, processor ada FSB wall, ko nak oc processor sampei 500MHz Bus Speed, susah, bkn banyak processor leh buat camtu weh.Kalau dapat run FSB & Dram kat 1:1 ratio, sedap. Dapat 400MHz Bus Speed & ram kat DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz @ 4-4-4-12 pun dah kira ok.DDR2: Dual Data Rate. So maksudnya, 800MHz / 2 = 400MHz.So kalau nak run ram kat DDR2 PC2-8000 1000MHz kat 1:1 ratio dgn processor, ko kena la oc processor korang sampei 500MHz Bus speed.Contoh kalau korang run e6600 @ stock speed [2.394GHz Clock Speed | 266MHz Bus Speed | 1066MHz FSB] at 1:1 ratio dgn ram, ram korang akan run kat DDR2 PC2-4200 533MHz.Contoh kalau korang run e6750 @ stock speed [2.664GHz Clock Speed | 333MHz Bus Speed | 1333MHz FSB] at 1:1 ratio dgn ram, ram korang akan run kat DDR2 PC2-5300 667MHz.Kalau nak tgk contoh 1:1 ratio, tgk gambar kat bawah ni: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudakHingusan 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 fuh best-best.satu explanation yg terang lagi jelas.Nak tau gak ni bro...1250mhz @ 5-5-5-12 tu ram brand apa dan 2gb kit atau 4gb?sambil tu aku nak tambah skit. Team Xtream boleh layan 1200mhz @ 4-4-4-12.Sayangnya 2gb kit.Kalau 4gb kit sure aku rembat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lengchai86 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 fuh best-best.satu explanation yg terang lagi jelas.Nak tau gak ni bro...1250mhz @ 5-5-5-12 tu ram brand apa dan 2gb kit atau 4gb?sambil tu aku nak tambah skit. Team Xtream boleh layan 1200mhz @ 4-4-4-12.Sayangnya 2gb kit.Kalau 4gb kit sure aku rembat.wow...dasat...akunye crucial ballistix stakat ni aku mampu 4-4-4-12 1020mhz je...erm...4gb kit xleh OC selaju 2gb kit la bro...chip yg best kt 1gb sekeping je.yg sekeping 2gb x bape best. tp ballistix still leh wat 1150+ kt 2Gbx2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sHäwTY™ 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 fuh best-best.satu explanation yg terang lagi jelas.Nak tau gak ni bro...1250mhz @ 5-5-5-12 tu ram brand apa dan 2gb kit atau 4gb?sambil tu aku nak tambah skit. Team Xtream boleh layan 1200mhz @ 4-4-4-12.Sayangnya 2gb kit.Kalau 4gb kit sure aku rembat. wow...dasat...akunye crucial ballistix stakat ni aku mampu 4-4-4-12 1020mhz je...erm...4gb kit xleh OC selaju 2gb kit la bro...chip yg best kt 1gb sekeping je.yg sekeping 2gb x bape best. tp ballistix still leh wat 1150+ kt 2Gbx2 Korang kena ingat phrase kat bawah ni:"Saiz adalah lebih penting daripada kelajuan"Ko anggap ram ni macam ko banding Mazda RX8 dengan Ford Shelby GT 500KR lar.Satu sports car, satu lagi muscle car.Mazda RX8 enjin dia 1300CC yang Ford Shelby GT 500KR tu plak 5400CC.Mazda RX8 menang dalam top speed, tapi torque ngan accelaration dia kalah.Ford Shelby GT 500KR kalah dalam top speed, tapi torque ngan accelaration dia tinggi gila babeng.Mana ko pilih? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gila_game25 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 bermakna, RAM ni nk kene seimbang la ngan brg komputer yg laen? owh. bru fahamlast question (confirm), dual channel ni mcm dual core or cume tambah performance?TQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adib_han 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 bermakna, RAM ni nk kene seimbang la ngan brg komputer yg laen? owh. bru fahamlast question (confirm), dual channel ni mcm dual core or cume tambah performance?TQhaha.. ape dual core nye pulak.. ni bukan processor la... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muhian 38 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 bermakna, RAM ni nk kene seimbang la ngan brg komputer yg laen? owh. bru fahamlast question (confirm), dual channel ni mcm dual core or cume tambah performance?TQdual channel n dualcore tak sama...simple je dual channel hanya tambah bandwidth..cth ram jenis pc5300 kalo di dualchannelkan akan diganda 2x jadi 10600.paham? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adib_han 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 suma dah paham beza dual-channel(RAM) dgn dual-core(CPU)??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sHäwTY™ 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) bermakna, RAM ni nk kene seimbang la ngan brg komputer yg laen? owh. bru fahamlast question (confirm), dual channel ni mcm dual core or cume tambah performance?TQ Pasal seimbang tu, betul, tapi pasal dual channel ngan dual core, salah.Actually, semua benda kena seimbang dalam pc ni.Contohnya, kalau ko ada processor lembik, ram lembik, tapi graphic card high end tahap karmeng, tak guna jugak, sebab nanti processor dengan ram tu akan bottleneck performance sebenar graphic card tu.So, semua benda ko kena seimbangkan.Macam pemakanan diet yang seimbang la. cth ram jenis pc5300 kalo di dualchannelkan akan diganda 2x jadi 10600.paham? Aku sekeh jugak mamat ni karang. Sape ajar ko kalau ram PC2-5300 buat dual channel jadi PC2-10600? Kalau tak tau, buat cara tak tau, jangan pandai pandai reka fakta.Orang ramai datang sini nak belajar, so, jangan la bagi ajaran sesat macam tu. Edited June 3, 2008 by sHawTY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mon678 48 Report post Posted June 4, 2008 Shawty aku kurang phm ratio 1:1 tue..mksud kau kalau aku Oc RAM aku,aku kene Oc Proc aku skali eh?Oc nie bergantung pd mobo jugk kan blh support ke tak? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudakHingusan 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2008 dual channel n dualcore tak sama...simple je dual channel hanya tambah bandwidth..cth ram jenis pc5300 kalo di dualchannelkan akan diganda 2x jadi 10600.paham?Bukan gandaan mcm tu.gandaan maksudnya double data rate ko in term of bandwith la.kekekeke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
