Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) Dapatkan EVEREST HOME EDITION DIAGNOSTIC...soft.... ...cari kat search engine...segala info pasal memory timing ker..mobo..chipset..buleh di ketahui ngan mudah... Edited December 22, 2004 by Chipher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 yeop..info Hoodlums tu dari sandra bukan cpuz...kalau ko tengok kat bhg memory cpuz ada state cannel dengan timming sekali...←Info tu dari Everest Home Edition laaa... Everest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 sudah silap la..kekemcm sandra pulak sofware averest nie... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
budakcrap 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 kalau tak salah everest adalah nama baru bg sisoft sandra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 kalau tak salah everest adalah nama baru bg sisoft sandra. ←Bukan laa..Everest ni ganti AIDA32..Wokeh cuns.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 ops ops...tak yah la citer dari mane software tuh...soklan aku tak terjawab lagi nih...lagi aku nak tanye...camne nak kaitkan pengiraan bus dalam menentukan bandwidth dual-channel?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gengstapo 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 akum semua..ermm aku nak upgrade pc aku nih.. so, aku cadang nak guna sysboard yg leh support P4 3.2 pin478 Nortwood + yg leh support ECC RAM. baper rege kira2 sysboard nih erkk?? yg paling murah & yg paling stabil sbb aku tak minat nak OC nih. thanX.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 w'salam gengstapo...ko salah tempat bertanye laa...thread ni tak sesuai utk oklan ko...kalu ko nak tanye, ade thread "PC baru aku"...kalau tak silap aku laa...pi la join thread tu...kat sini citer pasal mobo dual-cenel je...sorry... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gengstapo 0 Report post Posted December 24, 2004 nyerr kerr? ingat leh join skali nengok sysboard yg dual cenel punya citer. kekekeke... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2004 takde ke pakar yg leh jawab soklan aku ni?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2004 dah reply ler soklan tu kat thread lain,okies~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2004 ni yg potong nih...kalu dah reply soklan tu kat thread lain, ape kate kalu ko bagi link dia...byk sangat thread kat sini...camne aku nak carik satu2...tak pun, bagi je la cara nye lagi skali... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2004 nak kaitkan pengiraan bus dalam menentukan bandwidth dual-channel???? ia bergantung kepada FSB ratio:DRAM ratio....pada bios sistem pc dan juga chipset nyer..selalunyer sistem yang berasaskan AMD mempunyai nisbah 1:1...iaitu fsb processor bergantung secara langsung ngan DRAM modules..contohnisbah 1:1...FSB ratio:DRAM ratioAthlon XP 1900+...bus speed 266Mhzbandwith nyer...266 X 8 = 2128Mb/sdan ram yg sesuai adalah DDR-266..bandwith....266 X 8 = 2128Mb/s (single channel)2128Mb/s utk fsb cpu = 2128Mb/s untuk DRAMuntuk sistem p4 aku tak pasti..he..he...he.. .Kalu ader salah tolong perbetulkan......saye budak baru blaja... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potong 0 Report post Posted December 31, 2004 ni yg potong nih...kalu dah reply soklan tu kat thread lain, ape kate kalu ko bagi link dia...byk sangat thread kat sini...camne aku nak carik satu2...tak pun, bagi je la cara nye lagi skali...←er tersilap ler, aku ingat jwpn utk gestapo td,okies~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2005 contohnisbah 1:1...FSB ratio:DRAM ratioAthlon XP 1900+...bus speed 266Mhzbandwith nyer...266 X 8 = 2128Mb/sdan ram yg sesuai adalah DDR-266..bandwith....266 X 8 = 2128Mb/s (single channel)2128Mb/s utk fsb cpu = 2128Mb/s untuk DRAMooo...cenggini...tq chipher...tapi, ni utk AMD kan?...masalah nye, aku gune P4 2.4 1MB L2cache...camne plak ek?...ok, misal la cara pengiraan dia sama kan...FSB ratio: DRAM ratio533Mhz: ???camne nak dapat DRAM ratio tu?...pastu aku pelik skit tang kire bandwith tu...ko buat..."266 X 8 = 2128Mb/s"tetibe je ko kate, "ram yg sesuai adalah DDR-266"...camne cara nak tau tu?... pastu lagi aku nak tanyo..."266 X 8 = 2128Mb/s"...8 tu bit kan?...mobo aku skrg ni, mmg dah dual...so, darab ngan 16bit la kan?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2005 Minta maaf..mcm nie.. FSB ratio:DRAM ratio untuk P4 adalah 2:1 dan AMD 1:1.P4 (533FSB)--> 4*133~533MhzMemory-------> 2*166~333MhzNisbah ratio fsb ngan Dram (bold)--> 4:2 = 2:1-->(P4 System)AMD pulaAMD Athlon (266FSB)-->2*133~266MhzMemory------------------>2*133~266MhzNisbah (bold)...2:2 = 1:1DDR-266 mhz punyer bandwith = 266*8 byte = 2128Mb/sAMD cpu bandwith = 266*8 = 2128Mb/sCPU bandwith = DRAM bandwith (1:1)-->(AMD System)P4 (533 fsb) punyer banwith = 533*8~4264Mb/sDDR-333 Mhz punyer bandwith = 333*8~2664Mb/snisbah 4264Mb/s : 2664Mb/s = 1.6:1 menghampiri (2:1)kenaper tak guner ddr 266?4264Mb/s : 2128Mb/s = 2:1 (ddr-266)..pada single channel..jika pada dual channel ddr-266 mampu menghasilkan bandwidth sebanyak 4256Mb/s..tetapi untuk achieve full performance (pada p4) ratio mestilah dlm keadaan 1:1..seperti AMD..dan solvingnyer adalah dengan menggunakan chipset yg support dual channel.Dual channel ddr-266 pada system 533fsb tidak mampu untuk "synchronized" dengan bandwith CPU..kerana nilainya rendah (real time memory operation selalunya tidak mencapai tahap maksimum...ddr-266 tidak akan menghasilkan bandwith yg tepat bernilai 2128Mb/s atau 4256Mb/s utk dual channel... ) daripada maksimum cpu (533Mhz) bandwith (4264Mb/s>4256Mb/s).Jika menggunakan DDR-333..bandwith dier untuk dual channel adalah (~5328Mb/s)..dan mampu untuk "syncronized dan compete" ngan bandwith 533Fsb (4264Mb/s)..sebab nilainya lebih tinggi daripada CPU bandwith.Kenaper tak guner DDR 400?..faktor nya disini adalah kos DDR-333 tentu lebih murah daripada DDR-400 dan mampu untuk synchronized ngan julat yang menyamai CPU bandwith sepertimana DDR-400...Ok!..Sekian...adios... .Jika ader kesalahan...tolong perbetulkan coz saya budak baru blaja.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted January 4, 2005 (edited) Kenaper tak guner DDR 400?..faktor nya disini adalah kos DDR-333 tentu lebih murah daripada DDR-400 dan mampu untuk synchronized ngan julat yang menyamai CPU bandwith sepertimana DDR-400...Ok!..←tambah skit blh???sbb DDR333 ade chip Hynix BT-J yg blh di O/C ke 500MHz skang tgh run DDR333 @ 420MHz+2.5-2-2-11+ default vdimm Edited January 4, 2005 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) huh...penin gak...tapi aku puas ati...tq...tq...erm, skrg ni aku run cpu aku (dual-cenel) ngan ram 256MB DDR400...citer korang ni, cam DDR333 lebih baik je...DDR333 bleh OC sampai 500Mhz?...kalu DDR400, bleh OC sampai mane lak?...DDR333 @ 420MHz+2.5-2-2-11+ default vdimm ape maksud "420MHz+2.5-2-2-11+ default vdimm " ni?... Edited January 5, 2005 by yeop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2005 kalu DDR400, bleh OC sampai mane lak?...Bergantung atas chipset RAM tuh..Cam Kingston Value RAM aku nih mudah jerk cecah 500Mhz..Chipset Hynix DT-D43... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted January 5, 2005 ape maksud "420MHz+2.5-2-2-11+ default vdimm " ni?...←maksudnya aku OC ram DDR333 ker 420MHz dgn timing 2.5-2-2-11 pada default ram voltage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2005 Bergantung atas chipset RAM tuh..Cam Kingston Value RAM aku nih mudah jerk cecah 500Mhz..Chipset Hynix DT-D43...sebenar nye, aku tak penah amik tau pun pasal chipset ram...camne nak tau ek...aku gune ram kingston 256MB DDR400...kat kotak dia ade tulih ke?...ape lagi chipset yg ade or yg bagus utk ram?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2005 chipset ram tue..yg kat ram tulah...bentuk segiempat..selalu dilekat ngan label warranty.... ....jenis aper?..ader tertulis kat situ..kekadang kompleks skit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2005 Contoh chipset RAM.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gengstapo 0 Report post Posted January 9, 2005 (edited) aloo geng..aku nak tanye sket nih. aku nak beli sysboard antara 2 nih. mana yg lagik ok? Abit IS7-E atau GA-8IPE1000? rege lebeh kurang jek. amacam..?? Edited January 9, 2005 by gengstapo2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zer0Nehza 7 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 GA-8IPE1000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites