Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 Dengan kata lain lagi tinggi nilai FSB, lagi best performance PC...Try bench 12 x 200FSB vs 10 x 240FSB tgk mana power hehehe... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 Dengan kata lain lagi tinggi nilai FSB, lagi best performance PC...Try bench 12 x 200FSB vs 10 x 240FSB tgk mana power hehehe...←bench gune software ape?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 Cube tengok gambar kat bawah nie...Bahagian Logical/Chipset 1 memory BanksWidth : 128-bit (kalu running in dual channel)....64 bit kalu yang biasa-biasa jer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 ooo..camtu rupenye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 10, 2004 Cube tengok gambar kat bawah nie...Bahagian Logical/Chipset 1 memory BanksWidth : 128-bit (kalu running in dual channel)....64 bit kalu yang biasa-biasa jerDude....betul ke ko run dual cenel???pesal kat cenel tu tulis 1 ??pastu pesal aku nyer test kat WIDTH tu tulis 64-bit jerk??sedangkan cpu-z & bios & sisoft detect dual cenel?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2004 Dual channel akan meningkatkan width memory controller kepada 128-bit daripada tradisional punyer...64-bit.Aku test kat pc ofis aku..p4 2.8B Ghz..dier detect 64 bit...pasal tak running dlm dual channel mode.DIMM A1-256 kingstonDIMM B1-256 kingstonAku install cam kat dim atas...jika install kat DIM A1 saje..maka 64 bit..dan jika install lagi memory modules kat DIM B1...(tengok manual) maka akan running dual channel..tapi dalam kategori channel 1...(DIM A1 combined DIM B1).DIMM A2-256 kingstonDIMM B2-256 kingstonkalu aku install lagie cam diatas...(DIM A2 combined ngan DIM B2) akan tambah lagi..1 channel..Maka jumlah channel kalu aku install kat keempat-empat DIMM akan jadi 2 lah.......he..he... Kalu ader salah harap diperbetulkan OK!..chow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted December 13, 2004 boleh jugak buat camtu, tapi kena ada 4 keping ram la..apesal maximum memory bandwidth ko rendah sangat chipher?? mobo ko support DDR333 jer ker?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2004 jap, jap...aku kekeliruan...aku baca suma post korang...korang kate, FSB ni ade kaitan ngan proc...selama ni aku sangka FSB berkaitan ngan mobo...sbb kat mobo aku tu la tertulis nye FSB 800Mhz...senang citer, proc aku intel P4 2.4...so, camne korang tau FSB proc ni 200?...ajor la aku camne nak kire nye...korang kate intel bahagi 4...amd bahagi 2...persoalan nye, nak bahagi ape ngan ape ni?...camne nak dapat kan nilai bahagi2 ni?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted December 13, 2004 FSB utk proc intel...P4A - 100fsbP4B - 133fsbP4C - 200fsbABC tu jenis proc pentium 4..cuba ko darab nilai fsb tu dengan 4, so dapat la nilai bus...bus nie akan terhasil kat mobo, sbb tu aku kata 800 kat kotak ko tu bus..kalau ko tau fsb proc ko baper ko jugak akan tau nilai bus ko, ram bandwidth dsbnya sbb semua nie bersangkut paut...Ko kena cari guide kalau ko nak tau lbh lanjut, susah nak paham kalau ko tolak guide... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 (edited) FSB utk proc intel...P4A - 100fsbP4B - 133fsbP4C - 200fsbooo...camni...baru la aku paham..makna nye, proc aku 100fsb je laa...sbb aku nye P4 2.4 1Mb L2 cache...masa nak beli tu pun, aku penin, ape la maksud P4 2.4A tu...kalau tak silap aku, jenis C tu, HT kan?...ok, camne lak fsb ni ade kaitan ngan dual-channel?...Ko kena cari guide kalau ko nak tau lbh lanjut, susah nak paham kalau ko tolak guide...ape yg dimaksudkan ngan guide tu?... Edited December 15, 2004 by yeop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2004 makna nye, proc aku 100fsb je laa...sbb aku nye P4 2.4 1Mb L2 cache...Biar betul 100FSB jerks!! 133FSB laa... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2004 Biar betul 100FSB jerks!! 133FSB laa...ye la kot...ntah la...aku pun tak perasan sangat...aku rasa, masa nak beli tu, dia tulih P4 2.4A...P4A - 100fsbP4B - 133fsbP4C - 200fsbdah blank yg tulih camni...aku pun blank jugak laa... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted December 16, 2004 ko download CPUZ nie, ko tengok bape fsb proc ko...main agak2 sampai kiamat pun tak abis.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2004 (edited) Blank...memory bandwith aku rendah pasal aku guner DDR-266 Mhz...Normal bandwith (single channel) - 266Mhz x 64/8 ~ 2128MB/sNormal bandwith (dual channel) - 266Mhz x 64/8 x 2 ~ 4256MB/saku dah overclock....maka..bandwith aku..299Mhz x 64/8 x 2 ~ 4784MB/sKalau 6.4GB/s tue..untuk DDR-400 (mode dual channel)...OK..!.. dah kene edit...mane ade bandwith gune MHz?? Edited December 20, 2004 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 16, 2004 (edited) Chipher...mane dapat formula tu??pesal nak kena darab 64 pastu bahagi 8??pesal tak darab 8 terus??bukan ker 64 / 8 = 8?? yeop...p4 2.4A tu confirm bus die 533MHz..kat kotak ade tulis Edited December 16, 2004 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 Sarge...formula tue, aku dpt daripada manual MOBO aku.....tapi sebenarnya..calculation mcm nie jer...simple..:-Memory bandwith:-DDR frequency x 8 (bytes) x # channels (dual chanel or single channel ram). ok... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 17, 2004 tapi yg aku pelik pesal die nak kena darab 64??mesti ade sbb kan?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2004 jalur data daripada chipset ke memory module biasanyer adalah 64-bit....buleh tengok kat sisoft..Ok yg kiter tahu:-1 bit = 0.125 bytekalau 64 bit = 8 byteluas data transfer rate adalah 8 byte bagi setiap channel.RAM speed adalah = 266Mhz (DDR)Max.Bandwith = 266M X 1/s X 8 byte X 1 channel=2128 Mb/s (normal SC)Max.Bandwith = 266M x 1/s x 8 byte x 2 channel = 4256 Mb/s (normal DCC)ok..sarge!.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted December 20, 2004 (edited) jalur data daripada chipset ke memory module biasanyer adalah 64-bit....buleh tengok kat sisoft..Ok yg kiter tahu:-1 bit = 0.125 bytekalau 64 bit = 8 byteluas data transfer rate adalah 8 byte bagi setiap channel.RAM speed adalah = 266Mhz (DDR)Max.Bandwith = 266M X 1/s X 8 byte X 1 channel=2128 Mb/s (normal SC)Max.Bandwith = 266M x 1/s x 8 byte x 2 channel = 4256 Mb/s (normal DCC)ok..sarge!.. ←OK..thanks...pandai pun cume aku nak betulkan sikit...sikit jerk...yg ko taip tu silap...camni baru betulRAM speed adalah = 266Mhz (DDR)Max.Bandwith = 266M X 1/s X 8 byte X 1 channel=2128 MB/s (normal SC)Max.Bandwith = 266M x 1/s x 8 byte x 2 channel = 4256 MB/s (normal DCC)kalau mb/s tu Megabit per second bukannya Megabyte per second..so jawapan soklan yg aku tanye tu sbb die nak convert drp BIT ker BYTE**pesal takde thumbs up kat sini??aku nak bagi kat Chiper ni Edited December 20, 2004 by sarge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chipher 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) Thanks sarge..for correcting me..!... Edited December 21, 2004 by Chipher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 Lagi contoh dual-channel.. Klo single-channel, Bus Width 64-bit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
budakcrap 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 berinfo amat perbincangan anda semua :thumbs: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 hoodlums...ko gune cpu-z yg mane ni?...aku gune cpu-z yg blank bagi tu...info dia tak la detail cam cpu-z yg ko bagi...share la ngan kitorang...aku pun nak tau gak, tul ke bus width aku dah jadik 128 bit...to sarge...thanks la tolong tgk kan aku nye bus...bus 533Mhz tu, yg paling tinggi ke takat ni?...ke ade yang lagi tinggi dari tu?...lagi aku nak tanye...camne nak kaitkan pengiraan bus dalam menentukan bandwidth dual-channel?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gengstapo 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2004 ader lagik bus yg tinggi. prescott=800Mhz. aku rase proc ko tuh P4 2.4Ghz/ 512/ 533. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted December 22, 2004 yeop..info Hoodlums tu dari sandra bukan cpuz...kalau ko tengok kat bhg memory cpuz ada state cannel dengan timming sekali...cara nak kira bandwidth ram kan Chiper dah bagi kat atas tu...detail dengan single & dual cannel lagi...nak lagi senang refer kat sandra.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
