Java Certificate

[sekailain 0]

nak tanye sket... yang dah ade scjp tu gaji yang korang demand berapa rm?

[electroboy 3]

nak tanye sket... yang dah ade scjp tu gaji yang korang demand berapa rm?

Certifications won’t always help you become a better technologist, but they can help you land a better job or a pay raise Headhunters and human resources departments love IT certifications. They make it easy to match up job candidates with job openings. They also make it easy for HR to screen candidates. You’ll hear a lot of veteran IT pros whine about techies who were hired based on certifications but who don’t have the experience to effectively do the job. They are often right. That has happened in plenty of places. But the fact is that certifications open up your career options. They show that you are organized and ambitious and have a desire to educate yourself and expand your skills. If you are an experienced IT pro and have certifications to match your experience, you will find yourself to be extremely marketable. Tech certifications are simply a way to prove your baseline knowledge and to market yourself as a professional. However, most of them are not a good indicator of how good you will be at the job.

Experience penting kalau demand gaji yg menjadi faktor utama ko, plus skills ko dalam main frameworks Java, especially the J2EE thingy...but certification give us (a very good) bonus points for yourself...and again, as I mentioned before - learning cert membolehkan ko tau banyak mender and info yg even experienced pun boleh slips.

[Mr Ijan 0]

Memandangkan aku telah kembali ke landasan untuk meneruskan pensijilan semula setelah terpesong jauh beberapa bulan nih .. Encik electroboy, bolehkah anda menceritakan serba sedikit mengenai jadual harian anda semasa mula-mula mendapatkan sijil SCJP (bukan sijil2 yang lebih advance)? Kira-kiranya bagaimana nak struggle untuk study ditambah dengan jadual harian kuliah .... mungkin setiap hari diwajibkan bina coding ke... atau setiap hari sekurang-kurangnya 10 minit masa diluangkan untuk baca ke .. diharap dapat berkongsi ..

TQ

P/s: Ayatku sungguh skema ...

Edited November 11, 2007 by Mr Ijan

[electroboy 3]

Aku punya konsep simple - kalau ada peluang utk code, just code! Plus advantage of being a freelancer (means I more than a reason to code) aku akui banyak gak masa leisure time aku habes on this geek stuffs. But you don't have to be like that

Dari apa yg aku nampak utk exam SCJP ni... just ko faham fundamental...that's more than enough...and you have to code and code...get familiar with the code...

and bear in mind..soklan scjp ni main putar je...eg kekadang dia bagi nested loop sket punya complicated...last2 ko buat masa utk figure output while actually code tu takkan jalan sebab missing semicolon. So you have to be smart with scjp. Kalau dah strong basic java should be no prob to learn a trick or two in scjp and thus pass the exam.

So, study camner ko rasa ko boleh cope. Trust me you don't want to hear how do I study

[comebeing 0]

Aku punya konsep simple - kalau ada peluang utk code, just code! Plus advantage of being a freelancer (means I more than a reason to code) aku akui banyak gak masa leisure time aku habes on this geek stuffs. But you don't have to be like that

Dari apa yg aku nampak utk exam SCJP ni... just ko faham fundamental...that's more than enough...and you have to code and code...get familiar with the code...

and bear in mind..soklan scjp ni main putar je...eg kekadang dia bagi nested loop sket punya complicated...last2 ko buat masa utk figure output while actually code tu takkan jalan sebab missing semicolon. So you have to be smart with scjp. Kalau dah strong basic java should be no prob to learn a trick or two in scjp and thus pass the exam.

So, study camner ko rasa ko boleh cope. Trust me you don't want to hear how do I study

cam kacang jek sjcp ni bg ko ek electroboy..btw,ko java programmer ke?

[Mr Ijan 0]

Aku punya konsep simple - kalau ada peluang utk code, just code! Plus advantage of being a freelancer (means I more than a reason to code) aku akui banyak gak masa leisure time aku habes on this geek stuffs. But you don't have to be like that

Dari apa yg aku nampak utk exam SCJP ni... just ko faham fundamental...that's more than enough...and you have to code and code...get familiar with the code...

and bear in mind..soklan scjp ni main putar je...eg kekadang dia bagi nested loop sket punya complicated...last2 ko buat masa utk figure output while actually code tu takkan jalan sebab missing semicolon. So you have to be smart with scjp. Kalau dah strong basic java should be no prob to learn a trick or two in scjp and thus pass the exam.

So, study camner ko rasa ko boleh cope. Trust me you don't want to hear how do I study

Mmmm .. skang aku masih confius, mana satu nak lebihkan nih, buat coding atau baca? Ok .. mungkin better dua dua sekali .. tapi bila time membaca, tetiba terasa nak coding sebab kurang faham, nanti lepas best buat coding (addicted), bila time baca, ada plak benda2 baru yang kena disatukan sekali .. tetiba jadi kelam kabut dan huru hara sebab ada rule2 yang kena faham .. isk isk ..

tapi kalau baca tanpa buat coding (hafal dan faham rule)... no problem buat masa nih .. cuma takut kalau coding tu banyak membantu masa jawab exam nanti (soalan putar belit) .. isk isk . Pe solution nye ye nih?

tentang pengurusan masa tu nanti, kalau terlebih advance, adakah ia boleh diterima pensyarah pasnih? Contohnya, ada rule yang perlu diikuti tapi x diajar dalam kos tu .. lepas tu masa wat assignment, disebabkan dah biasa, terguna banyak kali .. rasa2 nya boleh ke? atau patut stop sekejap dan biar habis semester tu dulu?

Objektif : Lulus SCJP

Tq bro

Edited November 22, 2007 by Mr Ijan

[electroboy 3]

Mmmm .. skang aku masih confius, mana satu nak lebihkan nih, buat coding atau baca? Ok .. mungkin better dua dua sekali .. tapi bila time membaca, tetiba terasa nak coding sebab kurang faham, nanti lepas best buat coding (addicted), bila time baca, ada plak benda2 baru yang kena disatukan sekali .. tetiba jadi kelam kabut dan huru hara sebab ada rule2 yang kena faham .. isk isk ..

tapi kalau baca tanpa buat coding (hafal dan faham rule)... no problem buat masa nih .. cuma takut kalau coding tu banyak membantu masa jawab exam nanti (soalan putar belit) .. isk isk . Pe solution nye ye nih?

tentang pengurusan masa tu nanti, kalau terlebih advance, adakah ia boleh diterima pensyarah pasnih? Contohnya, ada rule yang perlu diikuti tapi x diajar dalam kos tu .. lepas tu masa wat assignment, disebabkan dah biasa, terguna banyak kali .. rasa2 nya boleh ke? atau patut stop sekejap dan biar habis semester tu dulu?

Objektif : Lulus SCJP

Tq bro

Treat this exam just like any other exam...study ikut rentak ko sendiri. advantagenya exam ni adalah ko leh reschedule anytime biler ko rasa tak yakin. Takyah pepening...hahaha

[Mr Ijan 0]

tentang pengurusan masa tu nanti, kalau terlebih advance, adakah ia boleh diterima pensyarah pasnih? Contohnya, ada rule yang perlu diikuti tapi x diajar dalam kos tu .. lepas tu masa wat assignment, disebabkan dah biasa, terguna banyak kali .. rasa2 nya boleh ke? atau patut stop sekejap dan biar habis semester tu dulu?

Yang ni, camne? Masa study dulu, guna semua JAVA rule x (skema)? atau ikut segala yang diarah oleh pensyarah?

Treat this exam just like any other exam...study ikut rentak ko sendiri. advantagenya exam ni adalah ko leh reschedule anytime biler ko rasa tak yakin. Takyah pepening...hahaha

Yeah .. skang terlebih huru-hara sebab anggap benda ni cam satu benda yang sangat susah dan pelik .. so, kena cool down sket .. ok ok, tq for the advice .. hehehe

[electroboy 3]

Yang ni, camne? Masa study dulu, guna semua JAVA rule x (skema)? atau ikut segala yang diarah oleh pensyarah?

Guna je cara apapun, asal menepati kehendak soalan. Ko bagi satu masalah kat 10 programmers, semua akan came up with many solutions and workaround. As long as it correct. it should be fine

[Mr Ijan 0]

Bagi yang menngikuti perkembangan SCJP (Sun Certified Java Professional), sekarang dah ada new version iaitu :

1) Sun Certified Programmer for the Java Platform, Standard Edition 6 (CX-310-065)

2) Sun Certified Programmer for the Java Platform, Standard Edition 6 Upgrade Exam (CX-310-066)

Resources : http://www.sun.com/training/certification/java/scjp.xml

Selamat Mencuba ..

[electroboy 3]

ya ya selamat mencuba bro...hehe....

[Mr Ijan 0]

ya ya selamat mencuba bro...hehe....

Wah, encik developer tak nak buang duit sesaje ke? Update the new version ..

P/s: Adakah ini bermakna kena cari buku baru untuk new features? Rasanya cam x de jual kat pasaran je termasuk upgrade exam untuk version lama dan yang terbaru ..

Edited January 13, 2008 by Mr Ijan

[awi216 0]

aiyakk,,, baru je beli buku edition 5 punya,, dah tukar baru plak,, 10% dari buku tu pun tak sempat nak khatam lagi dah kuar buku baru.. dah kuar plak version baru...

[Mr Ijan 0]

aiyakk,,, baru je beli buku edition 5 punya,, dah tukar baru plak,, 10% dari buku tu pun tak sempat nak khatam lagi dah kuar buku baru.. dah kuar plak version baru...

Relax, x banyak beza pun, lagipun kalau nak dikira, version 6 punya exam book tah bila lagi la nak publish ....

[awi216 0]

Oo camtu ke,, bagus la. Tapi aku pun entah bila zaman nak ambik exam ni pun tak tau la,, baru berapa helai je aku sentuh..

[Mr Ijan 0]

Oo camtu ke,, bagus la. Tapi aku pun entah bila zaman nak ambik exam ni pun tak tau la,, baru berapa helai je aku sentuh..

Takper, mula pelan2 .. cuma aku agak pelik ramai lak dak2 tahun akhir kat U nih dengan mudahnya dapatkan SCJP ni dengan hanya belajar kurang dari 3 minggu dengan hanya attend kursus SUN walaupun cuma ada basic JAVA pada mulanya...

Soalan kepada Encik Electroboy, mengapakah keadaan sedemikian berlaku? Walaupun ada sebahagiannya mengulang peperiksaan sebanyak 2 kali, tetapi mengapa mereka boleh lulus dengan baik?

[cikdayah 0]

sy bakal amik scjp..wish me luck..

[electroboy 3]

Soalan kepada Encik Electroboy, mengapakah keadaan sedemikian berlaku? Walaupun ada sebahagiannya mengulang peperiksaan sebanyak 2 kali, tetapi mengapa mereka boleh lulus dengan baik?

My opinion is either they are really good, or braindump just came in handy

sy bakal amik scjp..wish me luck..

Good luck!!

Edited February 4, 2008 by electroboy

[cikdayah 0]

My opinion is either they are really good, or braindump just came in handy

Good luck!!

tpkan..camne ko leh lulus ek..trainee cni last batch anto 10..2 org jek lulus..aku ari2 bincang dgn cikgu aku soalan scjp naik muntah darah da..penin aku...blum lg bab exception,set,generic..smpai tgk soalan pun aku mls nak bace

[electroboy 3]

tpkan..camne ko leh lulus ek..trainee cni last batch anto 10..2 org jek lulus..aku ari2 bincang dgn cikgu aku soalan scjp naik muntah darah da..penin aku...blum lg bab exception,set,generic..smpai tgk soalan pun aku mls nak bace

Hehe, aku study biasa2 je, self study, no braindump (which is very...weird), pening tu ada la sket, tp takdela sampai tahap muntah darah cam ko.... boleh pun pass

Edited February 5, 2008 by electroboy

[cikdayah 0]

Hehe, aku study biasa2 je, self study, no braindump (which is very...weird), pening tu ada la sket, tp takdela sampai tahap muntah darah cam ko.... boleh pun pass

bagus2..ko memberi inspirasi pd aku utk study scjp.mulai arini aku akan rajin dgr pe cikgu kat dpn tu bebel.selalu aku mls.penat mdec bayor programmer dr india.aku harus bersyukur..kalo nak study sendiri xdenye

[Mr Ijan 0]

My opinion is either they are really good, or braindump just came in handy

Yeah, itu yang menjadi kemusykilan .. masa mula2 kursus ni ditawarkan pada hujung semester, sume senior aku nih dah lupa camna nak guna even basic JAVA maklumla kursus java bukannya ditekankan pun dalam sesi pembelajaran walaupun dalam major Software Engineering .. tapi tup tup lepas je bukak semester Disember aritu .. ada la jugak yang lulus .. isk isk .... berkesan betul kursus dari SUN tu atau brain dump? Gilak gilak .......

Edited February 6, 2008 by Mr Ijan

[Mr Ijan 0]

Harga dah naik sampai Rm 1022 bagi exam SCJP dan sebagainya, sesape ade info kalau ada voucher diskaun ke atau papepun oleh Sun ataupun mana-mana syarikat .. harap leh tolong maklumkan .. isk isk isk .. nyesal tangguh setahun ..

[cikdayah 0]

lambat la bro..aritu de promosi beli voucher kalo xlulus amik sekali lg free...tutup da..bln 5 aritu xsilap

[Mr Ijan 0]

lambat la bro..aritu de promosi beli voucher kalo xlulus amik sekali lg free...tutup da..bln 5 aritu xsilap

Uih, tapi bayaran awal tu yang merisaukan tu, Rm 1022 harga baru , yang harga lama Rm 560 kalu tak silap .. leh tergolek jugak la nanti masa nak bayar .. hehehe