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as'kum...

aku nk tau, antara processor AMD64, mane yg plg best utk gaming?

skg ni aku guna Athlon64. mmg kita sume tahu AthlonFX yg plg perfect utk gaming. tp dgn harganye yg mahal membunuh, x mmpu lak nk memilikinya.

kalau tgk kat LY, Opteron dh msk market. tp family 1XX la. kalau tgk kat site AMD, mmg Opteron ni teknologinye dasyat. tp mcm mane performance Opteron utk gaming? utk lebih khusus lagi, mane lg power, Opteron 1XX atau Athlon64? sbb kalau Opteron 1XX ni, xde SSE3, manakala Athlon64 ada SSE3.

dan, aku nk tanya lg, mobo Athlon64 yg aku guna skg, Abit KN8 Ultra ni, bleh masuk Opteron ke? sbb tgk manual, yg bleh Athlon64 XXXX+ dgn Athlon64 FX je yg bleh masuk.

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wa'salam

kalau ikut perkembangan terkini, mmg opteron la yg ramai orang cari sbb OC ability nya yg tinggi. rata2 bole cecah 2.6Ghz dengan voltage yg rendah berbanding famili athlon. kalau utk gaming, sama jek sbb bukan terasa perbezaan L2 cache ni, dari segi benchmark baru nampak.

venice, san diego, manchester, toledo(latest batch) - athlon64 famili & venus, toledo - famili opteron semua dilengkapi dengan instructions yg sama termasuk la SSE3.

setakat nih, belum ada lagi MoBo khusus utk support opteron s939 tp still bole guna kat mana2 mobo s939.

ps : aku ada try usya web amd tp tak nampak plaks pasal opteron s939 nih, kenapa erkk?? B)

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ok dr segi OC, Opteron lebih baik la ye.

em pelik jgk. sbb aku ade terbaca, SSE3 utk Opteron hanya pada Opteron 200 series dan 800 series. xde pd 100 series, iaitu series yg dijual di LY skg. bleh x bg aku link utk tu?

ttg Opteron soket 939, hanya utk 100 series je. utk 200 series dan 800 series, sume soket 940. ni aku amik dr AMD.com

Opteron 100 series, 200 series and 800 series

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berat giler ker game tueh.aku rasa dengan amd 64 sahaja dah memadai.kemudian cari lah top grapic card yang betul² gaming macam x1900xtx atau 7900gtx.tapi paham² lah,harga 2 barang nie pon dan membunuh dah.

better cari yang proc below rm 600 dan gc dalam rm 800.itu pun dah support segala shader yang ada kat game sekarang

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ooo 144 pon ade SSE3. thanx gengstapo utk link tu. aku pon baru usha, Opteron 144 yg ade SSE3 adlh model yg stepping E4. er kat LY tu jual E4 ke?

ok, tu dr segi oc ability. katakan dlm mode standard, x oc, antara Athlon64 3000+ dgn Opteron 144, mane lg power? sori la kalau aku ni nmpk mcm xphm2, tp aku masih nk tahu. mcm ko ckp, xde lg mobo yg betul2 configure utk Opteron 939. kalau aku pasang Opetron 939 pd mobo 939 aku ni, ade ape2 efek x? ape2 la, drop performance ke, ape ke.

haa utk GC tu pon aku ade benda nk tanya. tp nnti la kalau ade org bukak topik, xpon nnti aku bukak. aku mmg ATI punye fans, tp melihat skg ni, nVidia is really powerful la. ni yg dlm dilema ni. okhokhokh... :P

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mcm ko ckp, xde lg mobo yg betul2 configure utk Opteron 939. kalau aku pasang Opetron 939 pd mobo 939 aku ni, ade ape2 efek x? ape2 la, drop performance ke, ape ke.

member aku ada beli mobo nie.. ada tulis utk proc opteron lagi

link

harap maklum...

power ke tak power tu aku tak tau la.. tapi modal USD1000

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ooo 144 pon ade SSE3. thanx gengstapo utk link tu. aku pon baru usha, Opteron 144 yg ade SSE3 adlh model yg stepping E4. er kat LY tu jual E4 ke?

ok, tu dr segi oc ability. katakan dlm mode standard, x oc, antara Athlon64 3000+ dgn Opteron 144, mane lg power? sori la kalau aku ni nmpk mcm xphm2, tp aku masih nk tahu. mcm ko ckp, xde lg mobo yg betul2 configure utk Opteron 939. kalau aku pasang Opetron 939 pd mobo 939 aku ni, ade ape2 efek x? ape2 la, drop performance ke, ape ke.

haa utk GC tu pon aku ade benda nk tanya. tp nnti la kalau ade org bukak topik, xpon nnti aku bukak. aku mmg ATI punye fans, tp melihat skg ni, nVidia is really powerful la. ni yg dlm dilema ni. okhokhokh... :P

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ahakss.. tak yah usya2, semua opteron ada SSE3 instruction.

kalau running default, mmg rugi jek beli opteron nih sbb rege mahal & clock speed rendah berbanding athlon64. kalau opteron 144 speed default baru 1.8Ghz, tp rege bole beli atlon64 3200+. setakat nih laa yg aku tau, belum ada MoBo yg khusus utk opteron s939 nih. kalau yg single core pakai kat mobo s939 setakat nih, takde lagi masalah aku nampak tp kalau yg dualcore ada larr sket2.. takde drop performance pon kalau pasang kat mobo abit nko tuh :)

GC?? ahakss.. hampehh la citer pasal gc, menyampahh aku :P

member aku ada beli mobo nie.. ada tulis utk proc opteron lagi

link

harap maklum...

power ke tak power tu aku tak tau la.. tapi modal USD1000

perghh!! smart siuuutt mobo nih. hurmm mcm nak try jek tp risau kalau features BIOS tweakin' kureenngg

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adoi... nape mesti MSI??? Argh... aku ni xbleh guna MSI. dah kene sumpah...

orait, Opteron 939 xde mslh kalau pasang kat mobo 939. tu yg aku nk dgr. wala! thanx a lot, guys!

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setakat nih, belum ada lagi MoBo khusus utk support opteron s939 tp still bole guna kat mana2 mobo s939.

waaa dari atas smpi bwh korg 2 je besembang, hebat2..

> maknenye opteron tu x beroperasi dgn sepenuhnye ke? ape beza kalo ade moo yg khas utk opteron?

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adoi... nape mesti MSI??? Argh... aku ni xbleh guna MSI. dah kene sumpah...

orait, Opteron 939 xde mslh kalau pasang kat mobo 939. tu yg aku nk dgr. wala! thanx a lot, guys!

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sepatutnya memang takde problem pun..sbb cpu tu dah S939 :lol:

** kalau ade mobo yg buleh OC.Bajet pun ade..baik ambik Opty sbb o/cable+cache lebih besar ;)

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kalau kita tengok harga ..mana lagi bebaloi.

contoh

X23800+ 2.2Ghz 512x2 RM1200

Opty 170 2.0Ghz 1mx2 RM1650

bebaloi ker sebabkan 2mb cache.....kalau kita nak ambik opty tu :huh:

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kalau kita tengok harga ..mana lagi bebaloi.

contoh

X23800+ 2.2Ghz 512x2 RM1200

Opty 170 2.0Ghz 1mx2 RM1650

bebaloi ker sebabkan 2mb cache.....kalau kita nak ambik opty tu :huh:

opty high oc ability..

bg overclockerz sejati, berbaloi kot :ph34r:

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kalau kita tengok harga ..mana lagi bebaloi.

contoh

X23800+ 2.2Ghz 512x2 RM1200

Opty 170 2.0Ghz 1mx2 RM1650

bebaloi ker sebabkan 2mb cache.....kalau kita nak ambik opty tu :huh:

apsal tak amik opty 165 kalau mcm tuh??

tak pun rege opty 170 bole beli X2 4400+ tuh, core tetap sama.. TOLEDO

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hehe konsep aku skg ni, nak merasa pakai Opteron, tp pada harga yg x terlalu gila dan mampu dimiliki, cthnye yg 144 atau 146 la, reger bwh RM1k. kalau yg harga smpai bleh buat duit muka beli kancil, xnak aku. baik aku beli meggi, lagi best apo...

oleh sebab cara korng ckp mcm best giler je Opteron, aku pun teringin la jgk, wlupun xtau bila. yg penting arkitektur Opteron berbeza la kan bndng dgn Athlon64...

hihi... best... best...

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Perlu diingatkan sekali lagi bahawa FX-60 masih dapat menandingi redeon x1900xtx(maksud aku ialah processor nih masih tak dapat menunjukkan full power GC nih)

Power betul GC sekarang nih,eh??

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apsal tak amik opty 165 kalau mcm tuh??

tak pun rege opty 170 bole beli X2 4400+ tuh, core tetap sama.. TOLEDO

opty 165 1.8Ghz 2x1mb RM 1459

X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz 2x512mb Rm 1455

kalau tengok harga ngan clock speed...pening aku :blink: ...ingat bulan depan nak tukar proc

tapi bila tengok harga ngan clock speed :blink:

kalau single core

opty 146 2.00ghz 1mb RM 890

64 3500+ 2.2ghz 512mb RM 815

64 3200+ 2.0ghz 512mb RM 620 (sekang aku pakai) tapi winchester

mana yg patut beli niiii...opty atau yg biasa...atau single core jer

:wacko:

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orait! aku memasang hajat utk memiliki Opteron, tp xtau la bila... okhokhokh...

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Opteron nie memang power in terms of gaming/autocad, server visualization, tp kalau hampa nak pakai kat umah je, tak yah le. Dia nyer memory jenis server memory ie. buffer RAM & price dia masyallah, tak tahan mahai siot. Pakai jer yg socket 939 tu. Memory dia tak salah aku non-buffer, so murah le skit.

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Opteron nie memang power in terms of gaming/autocad, server visualization, tp kalau hampa nak pakai kat umah je, tak yah le. Dia nyer memory jenis server memory ie. buffer RAM & price dia masyallah, tak tahan mahai siot. Pakai jer yg socket 939 tu. Memory dia tak salah aku non-buffer, so murah le skit.

yg ko cakap tu Opty soket 940....yg tengah bincangkan Opty soket 939...pakai ram DDR biasa jer pun leh jalan :D

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NIh..tgk apa budak² ni buat dgn Opteron 144 :blink:

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Rm600 seketul...tapi kalo takde stuff² lain spt RAM BH5 punya chip, PSU yang betul, tak cecah kot 3100Mhz..Mamat din ni pakai Mobo Biostar rege RM150 [betul ke RM150?]..haih!

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