longhorn 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 please suggest software aper yg bagus untuk programming(begineer) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyber 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 aper ye.. ko nak buat aper.. game... virus...??M$ Visual Studio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 apa jenis programming? apa language? cpp? java? atau assembly?kalau baru nak start, aku suggest java, atau cpp.Software - MS Visual Studio, Turbo C++ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☺☺☺ 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Utk beginner aku cadangkan 'C' sebab dia straight to the point, cuma nak kena hafal dia punya keyword, itu je sbb setiap language dia punya keyword berbeza. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairolrizal 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2005 aper ye.. ko nak buat aper.. game... virus...??M$ Visual Studio←ish betul ker.....ko ajar aku sikit boleh dak...nak buat simple virus.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyber 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 aku sajer cakap jer... tak pandai nak buat virus nie... ader geng dlm putera nie pandai buat virus... nick dia "laisaf" klu x silap aku... ko tanya laa dia camna nak buat virus... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chokie3200 1 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 hehe..utk beginner aku cadangkan C @ C++kalau dah biasa nnt insyaAllah language yg lain takder masalah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zulkifli 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 aku cadang pascal pasal basic budak IT/CS ambik pascal... tul tak...pastu baru blaja C... pastu C ++ ... pastul OOP cam C++ atau JAVA... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f a 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 (edited) straight to the point...C# terus! Edited June 6, 2005 by F A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chokie3200 1 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 aku cadang pascal pasal basic budak IT/CS ambik pascal... tul tak...pastu baru blaja C... pastu C ++ ... pastul OOP cam C++ atau JAVA...←pascal ok gak...tapi masa aku masuk 1st year trus blajar Csenior b4 aku mmg blajar pascal..hehhe..tak merase blajar pascal sbb silibus dah ubah.tapi tak salah aku VB tu guna pascal kan...mcm ok gak la.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nagakeciks 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 pascal ok gak...tapi masa aku masuk 1st year trus blajar Csenior b4 aku mmg blajar pascal..hehhe..tak merase blajar pascal sbb silibus dah ubah.tapi tak salah aku VB tu guna pascal kan...mcm ok gak la.. ←sedap ati ko vb guna pascal..vb asal dari BASIC le..delphi baru dari pascal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 straight to the point...C# terus!←C# aku rasa terlalu kejam utk beginner.. alang nak start, pandangan aku la, dari start dgn C baik trus ke C++, sbb bleh aply OOP skali, karang blaja C, pastu C++ plak, pengalaman aku..nanti konpius n syntax bercampur aduk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 tambah skit...nak start guna vb pun ok gak..sekurang2nya lagi mudah dan output pun 'nampak skit'kalau long term..baik blaja java..sbb banyak keja skang aku tgk star recruitment, involving computer diorang nak skill dlm java ngan mysql Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hafizzd 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2005 kalu utk beginner tu aku suggest ko blajar visual basic la dulu.. paling senang sekali...dah mahir ngan vb leh la blajar asp plak, sbb asp ngan vb lebih kurang je Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f a 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2005 hehehe..kejam ke terus blaja C# ok la..kalo nak ikut step bebetul..stat dengan script-language je dulu (JavaScript/JS,Visual Basic Script/VBS, Batch/BAT, Macro, bla bla bla)..pastu kalo da paham, masuk² sikit kat Visual Basic/VB (lebih kurang sama dengan VBS + Macro), Java (lebih kurang JS), C (walaupon sangat berbeza dengan Java + JS, tapi kalo da tau Java/JS rasenye takde masalah sangat dengan C nie:)Masuk plak ke alam OOP (Object Oriented Programming)..kalo VB, manfaatkan class (.cls), ActiveX control. Kalo C, terus ke OOP C++..Kalo Java, terus main dengan OOP.Masuk plak dengan Web-Based application atau Platform independence..Kalo dari VB atau C++, try usha² .NET framework (VB.NET, Managed C++, or C#)..Tambahan: pastu cube main² dengan MSIL (Microsoft Intermediate Language) atau High Level Assembly (HLA)..sebagai persediaan dengan OpCode/ASMTambahan 2: masuk plak alam Assembly Language (ASM -> TASM, MASM, NASM, GASM bla bla)..Kalo da mahir dengan ASM, bole kawal/take control whole application ko..p/s: kadang², kalo nak buat automation ringkas, tak perlu la sampai nak pakai C#/Java..Ade mase script je sudah mampu buat..(E.g. nak rename multiple specific file).. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zulkifli 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2005 Complex nyer nko F A...Tapi aku rasa sebelum blaja bahasa... kene paham gak aper tu algorithma aper itu Object Oriented Programming...sebab dedua benda nie kene paham bebetul baru senang nak guide masa buat programming... betul ker? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f a 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2005 Complex nyer nko F A...Tapi aku rasa sebelum blaja bahasa... kene paham gak aper tu algorithma aper itu Object Oriented Programming...sebab dedua benda nie kene paham bebetul baru senang nak guide masa buat programming... betul ker?←Yup..tapi bagi aku algorithm boleh dipupuk sendiri..Contoh, aku nak g opis, kalo hari hujan, aku tumpang kete member aku, kalo tak, aku naik moto je la.. ni pon satu algorithma gak.. Sebab tu la aku letak OOP kat no 3.Kalo da biasa dengan sintax², baru la usha² sintax public, internal, protected bla bla bla..pastu masuk la pointer²..step by step..kalo aku cakap trus blaja OOP kang, kejam laks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ancient One 3 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 Always start with ASSEMBLY! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f a 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 Always start with ASSEMBLY!←hohoho...tak kene le care aku ek? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ancient One 3 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 Dalam proses belajar assembly, kita akan belajar banyak perkara pasal matematik dan komputer sebagai chapter awal (sebelum masuk coding).. Dan maklmuat asas ni la yang menjadi segala kunci untuk memahami semer teknologi terkini dalam bahasa pengaturcaraan. Even aku bleh code .NET program dengan x86 assembler aku . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chokie3200 1 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 sedap ati ko vb guna pascal..vb asal dari BASIC le..delphi baru dari pascal←oh..iyer ker?tak salah hari tu aku bace vb tu guna pascal.sori la klu salah kenyataan.terima kasih keran btolkan.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f a 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 Dalam proses belajar assembly, kita akan belajar banyak perkara pasal matematik dan komputer sebagai chapter awal (sebelum masuk coding).. Dan maklmuat asas ni la yang menjadi segala kunci untuk memahami semer teknologi terkini dalam bahasa pengaturcaraan. Even aku bleh code .NET program dengan x86 assembler aku .←hohoho...baguih a..aku baru nak berjinak² dengan assembly, tapi aku stat dengan hla je dulu... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zulkifli 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 Assambly... ...Pening gak ah...kene try gak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ancient One 3 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 jangan belajar hla. tak bagus untuk kesihatan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
electroboy 3 Report post Posted June 8, 2005 assembly utk beginner?! Tak relevan.Yg best la..sblm jinak-jinak ngan programming language, try paling simple dulu - script, paling senang javascript. takyah compiler @assemblerdah tu baru jinak-jinak ngan C++ atau JAVA, basic syntax...baru nampak relation ngan apa yg blaja dari javascript.Pastu baru jinak-jinak ngan object oriented prog. Sambil2 tu berkenalan plak ngan VBFinally...kl dah terer...baru try assembly, x86 instruction. Tapi benda ni kl takat buat application harian @ games , tak yah blaja la.. lainla kalau ko nak guna microcontoller ka..apa ka...nak keja engineer ka...kalau boleh tak yah tgk la benda nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites