techno_fanatics 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2004 k.....k......sumer................pepehal thankz...............aku muler penpaham shket pasal oc nie.............nanti aku beli fan besor2 nyer aku taruk kat cpu aku nie pastu aku oc maot2 shket.............cpu aku seblom o/c 60C.........lepas o/c naik 70C...........ok ker tu??????????...............tu dah kira overheat ker huh???????? tu melampau tu...sebelum pun dah 60...ko nak nak rasa makan proc bakar ke?? hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2004 k.....k......sumer................pepehal thankz...............aku muler penpaham shket pasal oc nie.............nanti aku beli fan besor2 nyer aku taruk kat cpu aku nie pastu aku oc maot2 shket.............cpu aku seblom o/c 60C.........lepas o/c naik 70C...........ok ker tu??????????...............tu dah kira overheat ker huh???????? x ok langsung. 70C tu amt brbahayo...lainla P3 aku. dh 5 taun guno dah. xoc, full load 86C. rilek je smpai skg. buleh jgk main game.hehehe... P3 laie best drpd P4...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alel 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2004 lain kali kalo nak OC tahap giga, kena la pegi kutub utara atau kutub selatan...atau pun kat planet pluto...jangan sampai proc tu beku takleh jalan dah la... lagi......kalo rasa OC tu tak berbaloi, takyah la OC......kalo still takut2, OC la skit2......kalo nak stabil n selamat skit, OC sampai max dulu...pastu kurangkan setengah...(cam kalo 1G bleh pegi 2G, jadikan la 1.5G...contoh aje ni)...kalo nak hardcore, cam aku cakap awal2...jadikkan persekitaran tu tahap peti sejuk... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zer0Nehza 7 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 nih ker org kata o/c nyer...? ok ker??huhuhu.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
techno_fanatics 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 barton??ok la tu... naikkan fsb...rendahkan multi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaven x 6 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 speed cpu = FSB (Front Side BUS) x Multiplierutk mendapatkan nilai 2300MHz ade beberapa kombinasi FSB x multiplier.cthnya1. FSB 230MHz x multiplier 102. FSB 166MHz x multiplier 143. FSB 200MHz x multiplier 11.54 etcaku tak paham pasal multiplier tuh...mcm mana nak tentukan multiplier yg betul utk dikalikan dengan FSB...utk AMD proc..sebab mcm sarge kata ada byk combination...utk FSB x Multiplier tuh..?? adakah aku kena tgk pakai Wcpuid utk tgk system aku sekarang, baru set utk OC bape...kat proc..aku tuh..??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 wcpuid pun boleh jugak...tengok dalam bios pun boleh...kat softmenu kalau mobo abit ader semua tu...speed proc...fsb..multiplier...vcore...vdimm...vdd...etc boleh ubah kat situ & perubahan speed proc pun ditunjukan kalau fsb/multi dinaikan/turunkan...kalau takut boleh oc kat multiplier shj...tak payah ubah fsb just naikan multiplier & save...speed proc naik juga tapi hanya oc proc saja...lain2 komponen tak oc..cari tahap paling tinggi proc boleh oc...nanti senang tak set multiplier kalau nak oc overall system(oc fsb)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 aku tak paham pasal multiplier tuh...mcm mana nak tentukan multiplier yg betul utk dikalikan dengan FSB...utk AMD proc..sebab mcm sarge kata ada byk combination...utk FSB x Multiplier tuh..?? adakah aku kena tgk pakai Wcpuid utk tgk system aku sekarang, baru set utk OC bape...kat proc..aku tuh..??? rasenye contoh tu dah jelas...tapi takpe.aku citer lagigini.tgh balik cth aku tu....pasal kombinasi tu.katekan speed yg ko nak o/c ialah 2000MHz.so ade beberapa kombinasi nilai FSB dan multiplier kan??samada (fsb) 200 x (multi) 10= 2000MHz.takpun 210 x 9.5 = 1992MHz.atau blh jugak 150x13=1950MHz.nilai FSB @ multi tu blh diubah kat BIOS.kalau takleh.memang takleh laaa.mobo tu tak support kombinasi tu bergantung kepada kesesuaian kita.suke2 ati la.tapi nilai FSB tinggi lagi bagusFSB ni ialah BUS utk cpu-m/board.tapi bile nilai FSB naik...nilai BUS utk slot2 cap agp, pci akan naik.hal ini tak bagus utk kad2.sbb tu la nvdia buat chipset name nforce yg blh lock-kan nilai2 bus lain w/pun apabila FSB diubah.BUS tu ape???ehheheh.cam BAS tu laa.intrakota.pengangkutan.paham ker?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
overclocker11 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2004 salamlekum..aku nak tambah sket...(aku dah gi tau sblm nih kat putera.com dulu)heavenx,sbenarnyer semua processor darik family yg same(cth:athlon xp)dibuat serupa...tak kisah la 1700++ ker,1800++ ker,2200++ ker...etc...sbelum processor² nih dikeluarkan,AMD ader buat test utk setiap proc diorang...kalau sesuatu proc tuh ditest dan bleh lepas tahap kelayakan 2400++,diorang akan labelkan proc tuh 2400++..camtuh gak la bagi processor 1700++,1800++....cume yg membezakan proc nih lepas kluar factory ialah multiplier...aku bagi contoh:(athlon xp gune default fsb 133)athlon xp 1700++ (133FSB x 11<--multiplier) = 1463MHzathlon Xp 1800++ (133FSBx 11.5) = 1529MHzsebelum nih, multiplier processor dilock kat factory...maknenye user tak leh ubah multiplier processor tuh..first proc yg leh multiplier unlock ialah athlon xp throughbred b...kite leh ubah multiplier proc nih...aku bagi contoh...katekan anthlon xp 1700++...ko leh ubah multiplier dier suke hati ko...asalkan mobo ko tuh leh support....katekan ko nak overclock proc ko dgn tambah multiplier....contohnyer....ko nak overclock sampai 2GHz.....(133x15)=1995MHz...ok..habis pasal multiplier....FSB plak...lagi satu care nak overclock ialah dgn menaikkan FSB....kite ambik contoh 1700++ tadi...default FSB dier 133.....ko bleh naikkan FSB dier utk tambah speed proc ko...contohnye:....1700++ default (133 x 11)=1463MHz1700++ overclock (200 x 11) =2200MHz.......tapi perlu diingat!...sekirenye ko gunekan mobo yg tak support feature agp/pci FSB locked(cth mobo:gune chipset VIA KT266,KT333,KT400,KT600).....menaikkan FSB boleh merosakkan komponen lain dalam pc ko.....cam grafik card...FSB bagi grafik card adalah separuh darik FSB system..katekan 133 bahagi 2=66MHz.....so kalo ko overclock tinggi sangat macam 200,(200bahagi2=100MHz)...boleh merosakkan grafik card ko...tapi kalo ko gunekan mobo yg support agp/pci locked,ko takyah risau nak naikkan FSB seberape banyak yg boleh......cthnyer mobo yg gune chipset nforce2...ok..kombinasi FSB ngan multiplier....utk overclock sesuatu proc,ko leh naik atau kurangkan ko nyer fsb/multiplier mengikut kehendak ko...kite ambik athlon xp 1700++ jadi contoh lagi...default (133 x 11)=1463MHznaikkan FSB (166 x 11)=1826MHznaikkan multiplier (133 x 13)=1729MHzataupun ko naikkan FSB dan kurangkan multiplier (220 x 10)=2200MHzmacam yg sarge cakap....utk dapat nilai 2300MHz...ko bleh buat beberape kombinasi1.(230x10)=2300MHz2.(166x14)=2300MHz3.(200x11.5)=2300MHzlebih tinggi nilai FSB,lebih bagus performance sesuatu system....macam 3 contoh kat atas, walaupun ketiga3 nilai dapai 2300MHz,,tapi perforance yg no1 lagi bagus darik yg no2 dan 3...no3 plak lagi bagus darik no2....so..aku harap...sedikit sebanyak dapat membantu...lagi satu....FSB ngan multiplier bleh ubah kat BIOS(kalau mobo ko ader feature nih) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaven x 6 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 hehehehe..thanks aku dah paham dah byk dan skit..hehehe ko memang sesuai jadi presiden and also thanks pada sarge sebab membantu thanks alot guys..erm kire disini makin tinggi FSB dan makin rendah multiplier = lagi bagus proc..kite la yek..bile aku cek aku punya speed...lebey kurang 2Ghz je..padahal Axp2400+ hehehe..but multiplier dia tinggi lebey kurang 15 hurmm..aku dah cek mobo aku MSI Kt4 AV memang dia ckp support OC n ari tuh ada gak jumpa FSB tuh but tak perasaan multiplier tuh hehehehe...thanks alot..question skit...masa nak OC nih factor heat memang pentingkan kalo mcm aku punya PC kalo CPU dia punya heat 55'c bile dah lama on..so kire bole ker OC kalo temp. dah mcm tuh?? system den tak ingat lebey kurang 50'c kut nanti aku cek balik...question lagi..bile aku cek kat Wcpuid n cek kat chipset info...dia punya Via tuh ada 2 jenis1) Host Bridge - Via Apollo KT 4002) south bridge - Via Vt8233Aso mana chipset yg betul nih..??sekirenye ko gunekan mobo yg tak support feature agp/pci FSB locked(cth mobo:gune chipset VIA KT266,KT333,KT400,KT600) ko ckp mobo yg tak bole OC ialah chipset Via KT400 mcm aku punya tuh yg aku senaraikan tuh bole ker?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cermin 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 sori mencelah.....question lagi..bile aku cek kat Wcpuid n cek kat chipset info...dia punya Via tuh ada 2 jenis1) Host Bridge - Via Apollo KT 4002) south bridge - Via Vt8233Aso mana chipset yg betul nih..??host bridge tu mungkin adalah northbridge (NB) dia terletak berdekatan ngn socket tempat letak proc ko tu....south bridge (SB) terletak bawah NB ko tu.... selalunye bile beli mobo SB tak disediakan cooler cam NB... sebab NB kire cam kedua penting la kat mobo tu selain proc...tak silap aku dia gak yg control memory (memory controller)ape maksud soalan ko 'mana chipset yg betul nih??'dua2 tu mmg chipset tapi ngn tugasan yg berbeza...ko ckp mobo yg tak bole OC ialah chipset Via KT400 mcm aku punya tuh yg aku senaraikan tuh bole ker??tak silap aku oc11 katachipset ko tu tak leh lock apg/pci bukan takleh oc... so ko tetap leh oc tapi klu leh jgn main sangat kat fsb...sebab agp/pci ko tu punye speed (mhz) akan naik sekali kalau takde feature yg leh lock cam yg ade kat mobo yg pakai chipset nforce..klu ko pakai kt400...so kat sini dia dah state kan at least ko leh pakai 200 fsb...tapi bergantung pada ram ko gak...klu ram ko ddr400 takde masalh ngn 200 fsb, klu ddr333 pun orait gak tapi tengok chipset kat ram tu gak.. lagi satu cam yg oc11 kata kt400 tu takde feature yg leh lock agp/pci kan....klu leh ko naikkan sket je lah fsb tu...n main je la kat multiplier tu....mengenai temp ko tu aku rase baik ko tukar cooler dulu klu nka oc lagi...sebab 55 dah kire tinggi dah..(55c tu full load ke?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaven x 6 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 ko mana ada mencelah cermin..soalan aku tuh aku aju kepada semua orang...oo kire mobo yg aku pakai sekarang memang takde feature utk lock agp/pci la yerk...aku punya ram ddr400...hurmm..temp. 55'c tuh bile aku dah on pc berjam² lamanye... system temp. aku lupa..erm kire conclusion kat sini kalo aku oc gak maybe akan berlaku kerosakan pada cpu aku la yek sebab mobo aku takde sistem utk lock agp/pci yek...hurmm..nyesal aku ikut cakap cine tuh...kalo tau aku mintak gak Abit hurmmm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cermin 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 eh aku tak kata rosak kat cpu...klu takde apg/pci lock yg rosak nanti gc ko ke.... ngn pci kad ko la cam sound card Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaven x 6 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 ooo...aku dah tgk Bios aku...aku dah jumpa multiplier dia but dia letak CPU ratio hehehe...erm kalo aku set CPU ratio tuh terus ke x11 kire mcm aku oc la tuh or not ?? oh yer default multiplier dia x15... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FADM_Khyron 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Akum... nie aku ade kemusykilan.... bole ke FSB proc AMD melebihi 133... kenapa bile aku oc proc, komp aku terus crash... had yang die bole terima ialah 1.7Ghz.... dengan syarat FSB tak bole lebih 133... Aku pakai proc AMD 1500++ ngan mobo msi kt6d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arfaie 15 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 huish nak kena try o/c gak nie... aku nyer NB takder HSF pun, bole ker aku buat gak... gamaknya dgn spec aku tuh, berapa bole letak cantik haa skrg nyer133.1 x 13.5apa cadangan korang utk aku... ddr aku 256 333MHz jerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Akum... nie aku ade kemusykilan.... bole ke FSB proc AMD melebihi 133... kenapa bile aku oc proc, komp aku terus crash... had yang die bole terima ialah 1.7Ghz.... dengan syarat FSB tak bole lebih 133... Aku pakai proc AMD 1500++ ngan mobo msi kt6d tu mobo.tak caye???cube tgk nitgk laaarfaie....pesal mobo ko takde HSF??bukan ker ko pakai NF7-s??kalau ram 333MHz ko blh run FSB 2xxMHz.tapi jgn run sync @ FSB : RAM 1:1.kalau tak ko dah o/c ram.nanti takut ram tu tak o/cabilty.so kiranya ko o/c FSB ngan cpu jer la.ram still run 333MHz / 166MHzyg nisbah tu kalau tak silap aku ambik yg 4:5 HeaVen X...bukan ABit.tapi chipset Nvdia Nforce2.brand MSI pun ade gak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arfaie 15 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 sorila sarge salah taip daa... South Bridge aku yg takder HSF , btw bole tak sekadar main FSB ngan Multipier tanpa ubah yg lain macam vcore ker, ram timing ker ... aku malas laa nak adjust banyak2 procc aku lock nyer... paham2 jer la, newbies lagik dlm AMD nie, nak beli procc pun kurang pandai lagik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefortyfour 0 Report post Posted June 14, 2004 kalo dah start nak main vcore atau vdimm (letrik le) kena pastikan yang psu dan cooling ko best, sebab kalo naik vcore ni setahu aku proc akan jadi panas. Jgn overheat dahlah . Kalo aku salah betulkan ek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 sorila sarge salah taip daa... South Bridge aku yg takder HSF , btw bole tak sekadar main FSB ngan Multipier tanpa ubah yg lain macam vcore ker, ram timing ker ... aku malas laa nak adjust banyak2 procc aku lock nyer... paham2 jer la, newbies lagik dlm AMD nie, nak beli procc pun kurang pandai lagik rilek arfaie. NF7S bleh support smpai 200MHz FSB. mmg default mcm tu. so, klu stakat smpai 200MHz FSB, guno jo apo yg ado. tarahal punyo. cumo, klu ko nk oc lobih 200MHz, kono la lotak HS kek chip2 lain kek mobo tu. biasola, overheat.skg ko punyo 2200+ kan? 133MHz FSB. default vcore 1.65V. cubo naik an ckit FSB tu. xpayah buek apo2 laie dgn vcore atau vdimm. guno an default jo dulu. naik an FSB smpai processor xbleh log on windows.bilo dh xbuleh log on windows, baru naik an vcore ckit2. naik an jugak vdimm jiko porlu. naik an ckit2. jgn sekali bnyk lak. hangus kang. aku ghaso utk selamat, jgn lobih 1.8V. aku xtau thoroughbred ni max buleh sumbat beghapo banyak. cubo tanyo sarge. dio otai Thoroughbred.so, kok dah smpai 1.8V, tgk beghapo MHz FSB yg buleh log on windows. pastu, test dgn prime95. tp lamo nk kono tunggu.cagho aku sonang jo, run apo2 heavy game. try main 2-3 jam. klu elok jo run dio, ok la tu. tp klu baru nk start, tibo2 game padam atau komputer restart, maksud eh, vcore xcukup. tp klu ko dh lotak vcore smpai 1.8+V, xkan nk naik an laie vcore. bahayo! so, turun an balik FSB ko. jd xdapek la nk oc tinggi2 bona.hehehe, aku prime95 kantoi gak. tp main heavy game smpai 4-5 jam, xdo masalah! yes!slmt mncubo..!!!... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phreak_id 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 rilek arfaie. NF7S bleh support smpai 200MHz FSB. mmg default mcm tu. so, klu stakat smpai 200MHz FSB, guno jo apo yg ado. tarahal punyo. cumo, klu ko nk oc lobih 200MHz, kono la lotak HS kek chip2 lain kek mobo tu. biasola, overheat. nak lekatkan pakai aper hah HS kt kt chip² tuh?.. thermal tape?? arituh puas aku cari kt LYp, takder pun, maner nak carik?.. aku dah try tukar hsf chipset aku, mmg marvellous la suhu dier turun, tp yg southbridge punyer aku nak lekat pakai aper nih.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaven x 6 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 soalan baru...tadi aku try OC ngan naikkan FSB dia...but ski je dari default 133MHz aku naikkan sampai 135MHz je so.. ( 135 x 15 = 2025 ) run ok jer...problemonye aku try turunkan multiplier dia jadi x12 n dah save kat BIOS but biler aku cek kat WCPUID/CPU-z aku tgk multiplier dia still x15 mcm mana ek?? nih.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blank 1 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 Rasanya multiplier lock.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lanuncyber 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 nak lekatkan pakai aper hah HS kt kt chip² tuh?.. thermal tape?? arituh puas aku cari kt LYp, takder pun, maner nak carik?.. aku dah try tukar hsf chipset aku, mmg marvellous la suhu dier turun, tp yg southbridge punyer aku nak lekat pakai aper nih.. HS tu ado jual kek lowyat. utk RAM sobona eh. tp guno la kekreativitian sndiri utk lotak kek chip2 kek mobo tu. sepeket RM25. carik kek Sri Comp. ado copper, ado aluminium.nk lokat tu kono pakai thermal paste. cubo tanyo sarge. dio tau cmno nk buek...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
techno_fanatics 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2004 pakai thermaltape...thermalpaste tak lekat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites