ramat152000 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2011 apakah maksud satu2 perkataan bila ada ed dibelakangnya.....misalnya learned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe*labi*89 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2011 here is some examples : learn = belajar learned = telah belajar learning = sedang belajar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonikCapGajah2013 175 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) some word+ed for past tenses some word+ed for past participle present tense: I live here now. past tense: I liv[b]ed[/b] here last year. present perfect: I've liv[b]ed[/b] here since 1990. ok. Edited June 7, 2011 by OngBok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LanoV 22 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Not all words in English ended with -ed. So be careful when you use those words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee-shock 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2011 can anyone explain what is different between present tense,perfect tense and past participle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonikCapGajah2013 175 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 [u][b]Perfect Tenses[/b][/u] [i]The perfect tenses are used when an action or situation in the present is linked to a moment in the past.[/i] Maknanya, perfect tenses digunakan apabila sesuatu perkara perbuatan atau situasi pada masa sekarang dikaitkan atau bersambung dengan masa lalu. Perkara yang berlaku pada masa lepas berterusan hingga sekarang. Biasanya perfect tenses menggunakan kata SINCE or FOR. [b]Present Perfect Tenses[/b] [i]The present perfect simple is used to discuss events that have just been completed at the moment of speaking.[/i] Guna present perfect untuk menyatakan anda baru sahaja selesai membuat sesuatu perkara atau belum selesai. I've just [b]finished [/b]my homework. I haven't [b]finished [/b]my homework yet. I haven't [b]done [/b]my homework yet. Finished & done are past participle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee-shock 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 [quote name='OngBok' timestamp='1307593494' post='1069904'] [u][b]Perfect Tenses[/b][/u] [i]The perfect tenses are used when an action or situation in the present is linked to a moment in the past.[/i] Maknanya, perfect tenses digunakan apabila sesuatu perkara perbuatan atau situasi pada masa sekarang dikaitkan atau bersambung dengan masa lalu. Perkara yang berlaku pada masa lepas berterusan hingga sekarang. Biasanya perfect tenses menggunakan kata SINCE or FOR. [b]Present Perfect Tenses[/b] [i]The present perfect simple is used to discuss events that have just been completed at the moment of speaking.[/i] Guna present perfect untuk menyatakan anda baru sahaja selesai membuat sesuatu perkara atau belum selesai. I've just [b]finished [/b]my homework. I haven't [b]finished [/b]my homework yet. I haven't [b]done [/b]my homework yet. Finished & done are past participle. [/quote] Tq for the explanation OngBok..but still not clear la about different of past tense and present perfect tense becaause both refered heve completed some activity sorry my english is poor still in learning process Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonikCapGajah2013 175 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) [u][b]Past Tense[/b][/u] [i]The simple past tense is used to talk about actions that happened at a specific time in the past. [/i] Past tense digunakan bila sesuatu perbuatan sudah/selesai berlaku pada masa lepas dengan menyatakan masa yang tertentu (time adverb). I finished my homework [b]last night[/b]. (past tense) I finished my homework [b]this morning[/b]. (past tense) I finished my homework [b]yesterday[/b]. (past tense) I've just finished my homework. (present perfect) Edited June 9, 2011 by OngBok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee-shock 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 [quote name='OngBok' timestamp='1307595662' post='1069911'] [u][b]Past Tense[/b][/u] [i]The simple past tense is used to talk about actions that happened at a specific time in the past. [/i] Past tense digunakan bila sesuatu perbuatan sudah/selesai berlaku pada masa lepas dengan menyatakan masa yang tertentu (time adverb). I finished my homework [b]last night[/b]. (past tense) I finished my homework [b]this morning[/b]. (past tense) I finished my homework [b]yesterday[/b]. (past tense) I've just finished my homework. (present perfect) [/quote] means that the different is only the type and how the word use in sentences. the addition of +ed is still same right? correct me if wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betik 11 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='gee-shock' timestamp='1307599168' post='1069914'] means that the different is only the type and how the word use in sentences. the addition of +ed is still same right? correct me if wrong [/quote] here's what i understand: they are used with reasons, [b]not[/b] just [u]how[/u] the verbs are used in sentences (if i can put it that way)... the addition of "ed" or "d" in regular verbs is to form past participle and past form...past participle are needed to form present perfect...past form are used to form past tense(simple past)... and [i]past particple[/i] is not [i]past form[/i](used in past tense) even though there are almost identical...past participle of irregular verbs is often different(e.g: eat<--basic form, ate<---past form, eaten<--past particple, eating<--present participle, to eat<---infinitive)... to form a present perfect tense: subject(e.g: I) + auxiliary verb(e.g: have) + past participle(e.g: worked) while simple past tense can be formed as of: subject(e.g: I) + past form(e.g: worked) we [b]cannot[/b] use present perfect tense in a sentence with specific time expressions(e.g: last night, last week, yesterday, etc)...present perfect is used to tell about an action that took place at [b]an unspecified time[/b] whether it happened before now, up until now, etc... but we can use them with unspecific time expressions(e.g: once, before, several times, since, etc)... while past tense can be used with specific and unspecific time expressions... //please correct me if i'm mistaken...this is my understanding of these two verbs Edited June 16, 2011 by betik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonikCapGajah2013 175 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 betik, you're almost right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gee-shock 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 [quote name='betik' timestamp='1308213994' post='1070255'] here's what i understand: they are used with reasons, [b]not[/b] just [u]how[/u] the verbs are used in sentences (if i can put it that way)... the addition of "ed" or "d" in regular verbs is to form past participle and past form...past participle are needed to form present perfect...past form are used to form past tense(simple past)... and [i]past particple[/i] is not [i]past form[/i](used in past tense) even though there are almost identical...past participle of irregular verbs is often different(e.g: eat<--basic form, ate<---past form, eaten<--past particple, eating<--present participle, to eat<---infinitive)... to form a present perfect tense: subject(e.g: I) + auxiliary verb(e.g: have) + past participle(e.g: worked) while simple past tense can be formed as of: subject(e.g: I) + past form(e.g: worked) we [b]cannot[/b] use present perfect tense in a sentence with specific time expressions(e.g: last night, last week, yesterday, etc)...present perfect is used to tell about an action that took place at [b]an unspecified time[/b] whether it happened before now, up until now, etc... but we can use them with unspecific time expressions(e.g: once, before, several times, since, etc)... while past tense can be used with specific and unspecific time expressions... //please correct me if i'm mistaken...this is my understanding of these two verbs [/quote] waaa xfaham.. boleh translate x bg senang paham sorry...actually we have how many type of verb? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonikCapGajah2013 175 Report post Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='gee-shock' timestamp='1308232800' post='1070267'] waaa xfaham.. boleh translate x bg senang paham sorry...actually we have how many type of verb? [/quote] OK..nak bagi senang faham, nie cerita pasal verbs. verb asasnya ada 4 kumpulan. simple present | progressive | simple past | past participle [b]Irregular verb[/b] do | doing | did | done cut | cutting | cut | cut [b]Regular verb[/b] work | working | worked | worked Kalau regular verb, kebanyakan bentuk simple past sama dengan participle Beza dengan irregular verb, tiada formula yang khusus. Kena hafal. OK. Contoh: Soalan - where did she go yesterday? Jawapan perlu kepada past tense Yesterday she went to hospital. Soalan - have you ever been to mountaintop? Jawapan perlu kepada present perfect tense. I've ever been to the mountaintop (tapi aku lupa bila) I've never been to ......... ok. Edited June 16, 2011 by PowerRootTongkatAli2011 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites