athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Baik ko angkat 2 x 256MB DDR400 utk best run dual channel...Satu lagi ko kena beli jugak GC klo tak camner nak hidup PC..Mobo Asus tu mana ada built-in VGA..Ko ni bukan hardcore gamerz kan?Memadai dgn GeForce FX5200 128MB 128-Bit..Pasal PSU 420W tu bukan true power..Bacaan sebenar ntah sampai ke tidak 300W..←sampai just kekadang kurang sbb terlepas sebagai heat...ermm...bleh tengok baper Ampere dia leh support selalu dia tampal kat heatsink... 3V rail baper Ampere dan sebagainya... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Baik ko angkat 2 x 256MB DDR400 utk best run dual channel...Satu lagi ko kena beli jugak GC klo tak camner nak hidup PC..Mobo Asus tu mana ada built-in VGA..Ko ni bukan hardcore gamerz kan?Memadai dgn GeForce FX5200 128MB 128-Bit..Pasal PSU 420W tu bukan true power..Bacaan sebenar ntah sampai ke tidak 300W..←ok...pasal RAM, confirm aku angkat 2 keping DDR 256 400Mhz...pasal power supply ngan GC tu, aku still tak paham lagik...ape maksud aku kena beli gak GC, kalu tak camne pc nak hidup?...nape cakap camni lak?...wajib ke mobo ASUS tu pasang GC?...nape kate P4P800-X tu takde VGA?...ade laa...takcaya, ni aku taip kan...AGP8XAGP8X (AGP3.0) is the next generation VGA interface specification that enables enhanced graphics performance with high bandwidth up to 2.12GB/sso, takde VGA gak ke nih?...tak kan la sampai takleh hidup lak pc aku kalu takde GC tu...aku rasa, bleh je...power supply 420w, tak kan la sampai tak support lak kalu aku pasang GC?...erm, aku keliru skit kat sini...ade yg kate ok, ade yg kate tak support...so, aku perlukan bantuan korang...terang kan kat aku pasal power supply nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alert 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 mane ade built-in VGA..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 mobo ko tuh mmg x de built-in vga..so kene beli AGP card..mobo ko support AGP8X (AGP 3.0)..so kene ade AGP card dulu,baru la bole monitor..psu 420w bole support gc ko tuh..no hal punye..kitorang rekemenkan psu lain coz klu ko nk OC,senang la skit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 mobo ko tuh mmg x de built-in vga..so kene beli AGP card..mobo ko support AGP8X (AGP 3.0)..so kene ade AGP card dulu,baru la bole monitor..psu 420w bole support gc ko tuh..no hal punye..kitorang rekemenkan psu lain coz klu ko nk OC,senang la skit..←erm, ye ke tak VGA?...kalu takde VGA, mmg takleh pasang langsung ke pc tuh?...kalau dah pasang mobo cantik2 pun, tetap takde screen ke?...betoi ke ni?...tolong jawab ngan segera... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) klu x de VGA,x leh la psg pc tuh..x de la screen..built-in VGA mmg x besh..so better beli VGA card(graphic card)..then pasang la kat mobo tuh..br la ade screen..wokeh cun... p/s:mobo ASUS ko mmg x de built-in VGA.. Edited October 22, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 klu x de VGA,x leh la psg pc tuh..x de la screen..built-in VGA mmg x besh..so better beli AGP..then pasang la kat mobo tuh..br la ade screen..wokeh cun... p/s:mobo ASUS ko mmg x de built-in VGA..←waaaaa...sadis giler!!!...aku kena kuar duit lagi la maknenye nih...adoi, sakit nye kpale...takpe laa...blajo...tapi, tetap sadis...beza ke VGA ngan AGP?...erm, kalu ko gune balik AGP kat mobo MSI aku, leh tak?...satu lagi aku nak tau...kalu beli mobo, VGA or AGP ni, mmg tak de ke?...mmg kena beli asing ke?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) AGP tu port untuk VGA(edited)..mmg skang nih mobo² yg support high-performance x de built-in VGA..built-in VGA x best laa..MSI P4MAM-L tuh mmg ade built-in VGA..mobo ade due jenis:ade yg bulit-in VGA dan ade yg x de built-in VGA nih..VGA external nih lagi best performance dr built-in VGA..p/s:AGP - port untuk VGA.. Edited October 22, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sauron 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 AGP tu bkn ke port utk VGA ....setau aku laa kalu salah tolong betulkan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 tgk..sampai aku tersasul ckp.. thanx coz remind me.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 AGP tu port untuk VGA(edited)..mmg skang nih mobo² yg support high-performance x de built-in VGA..built-in VGA x best laa..MSI P4MAM-L tuh mmg ade built-in VGA..mobo ade due jenis:ade yg bulit-in VGA dan ade yg x de built-in VGA nih..VGA external nih lagi best performance dr built-in VGA..p/s:AGP - port untuk VGA.. ←ok, aku dah semakin paham...erm, kata la aku bukak VGA pada MSI tu, pasang kat ASUS...bleh masuk ke tak?...mati la kalau nak beli sekarang...paling murah VGA yg aku tgk kat katalog yg ade kat aku sekarang ni pun, RM170...(ATI radeon PV 9200SE 128MB DDR)...ok ke nih?...ai, kejam nye dunia... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 VGA kat MSI tuh adelah built-in VGA (ade chipset kat atas mobo)..ko x leh nk bukak..so ko kene beli yg external VGA (graphic card)..ati 9200se tu ok kot..tp x best untuk gaming..coz 9200se juz 64bit memory bandwidth.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 adoi...aku ingat dah settle masalah aku...rupenye makin berat lak...erm...kena la aku rembat VGA lak petang nih...VGA ngan GC, sama tak?...kalau sama, baik aku beli GC terus... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sauron 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 kalu VGA ngan GC same!!!!! ko nak ambik GC ape??? maksud aku brand ape??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Utk mobo MSI ko tuh takyah guna Graphic Card oun takper sebab dah ada built-in punyer...Utk ASUS tuh mana ada built-in VGA, so terpaksa ko beli...Klo tak camner display nak muncul kat screen monitor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 ko nak buat main games ke?....ermm ko nak performance board aku bagi la yang tu...kalau nak built in macam ATI IGP pon ok...ermm...takpe kalau ko light gamers ko beli je ATI Radeon 9200 SE tu...games tak lag kalau tak enabled anti-aliasing...ok je main...harga RM170 ASUS brand...ok...ala rileks arr...nak best kena arr keluar duit...mobo MSI lama tu ko jual arr kat www.lelong.com.my... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 Utk mobo MSI ko tuh takyah guna Graphic Card oun takper sebab dah ada built-in punyer...Utk ASUS tuh mana ada built-in VGA, so terpaksa ko beli...Klo tak camner display nak muncul kat screen monitor?←jap, jap...soalan aku belum terjawab lagik...korang tak tau ape yg aku maksud kan kot...let me explain...camnih...kan tadi aku tanye, VGA ngan GC, same tak?...sbb, kalu aku beli VGA je, makna nye aku beli utk display screen monitor je la kan?...tapi, kalau GC pun dapat display screen monitor, baik aku beli GC je...dapat support game skali...sbb tu la aku tanye...adakah VGA dan GC tu, bende yg sama?...GC tu, dapat berfungsi cam VGA tak?...maksud nye, dapat tak GC tu display screen monitor cam VGA?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 sbb tu la aku tanye...adakah VGA dan GC tu, bende yg sama?...GC tu, dapat berfungsi cam VGA tak?...maksud nye, dapat tak GC tu display screen monitor cam VGA?...Btul² newbie nihh... Tapi bagus ko ni rajin bertanya.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 (edited) VGA = Video Graphic Array...satu standard mod paparan video....Graphic Card = Kad Grafik (Geforce, Radeon dan paparan standard VGA) dlm bentuk kad grafik dan perlu dimasukkan dlm slot AGP or PCI...Built-in Graphic/On-Board Graphic= Grafik mcm Geforce, Xabre, Radeon,S3 tapi sudah built in dlm motheboard...Nanti aku tunjukkan kat gambar2 kad grafik dan onboard grafik hehehhe...kalau ko nak tau lebih lanjut pasal standard mod graphics nih bukak what.is.com Edited October 22, 2004 by athlonium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2004 ok, aku dah semakin paham...erm, kata la aku bukak VGA pada MSI tu, pasang kat ASUS...bleh masuk ke tak?...Idea yang amat menarik tapi sayangnya mmg tak boley buat camtue..Ko cadang nak buka guna screwdriver @ spanar ker?Hihihi just kidding... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 Btul² newbie nihh... Tapi bagus ko ni rajin bertanya..←mmg aku sangat2 baru dalam bidang nih...walaupun kalu ikut umur aku, ptt nye aku dah otai pasal performance pc nih... ...so, mmg seronok la kalu korang dapat ajor aku... ...VGA = Video Graphic Array...satu standard mod paparan video....Graphic Card = Kad Grafik (Geforce, Radeon dan paparan standard VGA) dlm bentuk kad grafik dan perlu dimasukkan dlm slot AGP or PCI...Built-in Graphic/On-Board Graphic= Grafik mcm Geforce, Xabre, Radeon,S3 tapi sudah built in dlm motheboard...Nanti aku tunjukkan kat gambar2 kad grafik dan onboard grafik hehehhe...kalau ko nak tau lebih lanjut pasal standard mod graphics nih bukak what.is.comerm, makna nye, GC ngan VGA adalah dua bende yg berlainan la kan?...hmm...aku rasa, aku pasang VGA je la kat pc aku...ye la, kalu monitor pun takde screen, ape ke jadahnye...pasal GC, maybe aku pasang, maybe gak tak pasang...tu akan dipertimbangkan kemudian...tapi, RAM, confirm aku up pas aku dapat elaun nanti...GC tu, aku rasa, takyah pasang pun takpe...sbb mobo aku dah dual channel...betul ke ape yg aku pikir nih?...aku nak tau pasal RAM la plak...ade aku join forum lain kat sini...diorang just cakap pasal RAM jenis, pc3200 ngan pc2700...yg aku lak menilai RAM ni, aku tgk brape Mhz dia leh pi...sbb tu aku nak pasang DDR256 400Mhz...so, soalan aku, camne nak tau RAM tu pc3200 or pc2700?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 erm...member aku cakap...mobo ASUS P4P800-X ni, build-in...sbb port lain suma ade...paralel, port utk monitor, port audio...sumanye dah ade...tapi, korang cakap, mobo tu bukan build-in...so, ade sape2 leh confirm kan, mobo ni build-in ke bukan?...kalau bukan, aku nak beli VGA ni...kalau build-in, selamat la aku... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 ko beli P4P800-MX ke P4P800-X ni?....P4P800-X takde built-in kalau MX ade built in...isk mana satu ko beli nih??...penin aku... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2004 erm, makna nye, GC ngan VGA adalah dua bende yg berlainan la kan?...hmm...aku rasa, aku pasang VGA je la kat pc aku...ye la, kalu monitor pun takde screen, ape ke jadahnye...pasal GC, maybe aku pasang, maybe gak tak pasang...tu akan dipertimbangkan kemudian...tapi, RAM, confirm aku up pas aku dapat elaun nanti...GC tu, aku rasa, takyah pasang pun takpe...sbb mobo aku dah dual channel...betul ke ape yg aku pikir nih?...Lorr Graphic Card ngn VGA tu menda yang sama lerr...Klo ko pasang VGA bermakna ko pasang GC laa..GC takder kaitan ngn dual-channel, so ko kena pasang sebab mobo ko takder built-in VGA @ integrated graphic..Pastikan bebetul model mobo ko P4P800-MX ke P4P800-X?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2004 ko beli P4P800-MX ke P4P800-X ni?....P4P800-X takde built-in kalau MX ade built in...isk mana satu ko beli nih??...penin aku...ade ke aku sebut pasal mobo P4P800-MX?...aku tak tau pun pasal kewujudan mobo nih...kesimpulannye, aku gune mobo P4P800-X...Lorr Graphic Card ngn VGA tu menda yang sama lerr...Klo ko pasang VGA bermakna ko pasang GC laa..GC takder kaitan ngn dual-channel, so ko kena pasang sebab mobo ko takder built-in VGA @ integrated graphic..Pastikan bebetul model mobo ko P4P800-MX ke P4P800-X??ok, aku dah paham...VGA tu, GC...erm, elok la kalu aku dapat beli GC terus kan...takyah pikir lagi pasal GC lain kali...tapi, aku ade bebrape soklan...1) GC takde kaitan ngan dual-channel?...erm, dual channel ni, tak beri sebarang pekdah pada game ke?...maksud nye, game lagi smooth ke...lagi laju ke...ape2 je laa...pendek kate, aku nak tau, ape fungsi sebenar dual channel nih?...2)nape aku kena pastikan betul2 mobo aku?...ade kaitan ngan model GC yg aku nak beli gak ke?...3) ok tak kalau aku beli GC, MSI GeForce FX5200 128MB 128-bit?...aku perlukan cadangan korang...best ke GC nih?...ape kelebihan dia dari segi game dan multimedia?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
