athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 apa lak burn...420w tu berapa watt power supply to leh support...baik angkat yang lebih sedikit sediakan headroom ...baik lebih daripada cukup2 je... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 erm, aku tak paham...ape maksud...baik angkat yang lebih sedikit sediakan headroom ...baik lebih daripada cukup2 je...bukan ke lagi tinggi power supply, risiko pun lagi tinggi?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 tak lagi rendah power supply lagi tinggi risiko..sbb power tak cukup... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 aku ingat, aku nak sambar mobo tu ptg ni gak laa...teruja la aku...tak tahan tgg lama2 sangat...aku ingat, nak pasang mobo tu malam ni gak...so, ade ape2 nasihat utk aku tak?...supaya takde kesilapan masa masa aku pasang mobo tu...especially, masa nak kuar kan proc dari port dia kat mobo MSI aku...camne cara nak kuar kan proc tu?...something yg tak penah aku lakukan...so, aku harapkan nasihat korang laa...kot la ade ape2 nasihat lain sebelum aku pi sambar Asus P4P800-X nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 tak lagi rendah power supply lagi tinggi risiko..sbb power tak cukup...←ooo...ye ke?...so, 350w tu, ok ke tak?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 lagi tinggi PSU lagi selamat skit power consumption hardware² ko..klu psu dah tinggi,baru la bole tambah mcm² hardware dan OC..jgn risau la..x meletup sistem ko tuh better amik psu 420w,450w or 480w..wokeh cun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Mobo ni tak minat ker?ABIT IS7-EDlm RM285 kat Cycom...Tapi terpulang pada ko laa nak pilih mobo mana.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 hahahah...tak abis2 abit...ermm...ala sama je tu...chipset yang sama...features ASUS lagi banyak .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Mobo ni tak minat ker?ABIT IS7-EDlm RM285 kat Cycom...Tapi terpulang pada ko laa nak pilih mobo mana..←erm, ko lambat laa...kalu tak, bleh gak aku pertimbangkan...aku dah sambar ASUS yg athlonium rekemen ptg semalam...sebelum ni, aku penah gak pikir nak gune abit...sbb ade member aku cakap, mobo paling best skali, abit laa...tapi, ade satu survey kat mane ntah aku tgk web tu...aku tgk, paling glamour org gune ASUS...ramai giler la org gune asus...jauh meninggalkan abit...that why la aku pikir nak gune asus je...mobo tu aku tak pasang lagi...malas nak amik risiko...hu hu... ...insyaAllah, malam ni ade kawan aku datang umah, tolong pasang...dapat la aku blajo skali nanti...hmmm...nampaknye, kena la aku up PSU lak pasnih...duit...duit...duit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 erm...dalam masa 2 bulan ni...aku ingat nak upgrade lagi pc aku...so, aku ingat, nanti aku nak spend RM500...dalam RM500 tu, aku ingat nak rembat 2 keping RAM 256DDR 400Mhz...pastu, aku nak taruk GC lak...so, 2 keping RAM tu, aku rasa leh dapat RM300...GC aku tak tau brape harga...ade ke round RM200?...ke GC yg RM200 ni, hampeh nye?...aku perlukan pendapat korang...yg RAM tu, maybe aku balas kingston or apacer...yg GC, aku tak tau lagi jenis mane...ade cadangan tak?...satu lagi, kire ok ke kalu aku upgrade camnih?...ke ade cara yg lebih baik lagi nak upgrade pc aku?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mazaziman 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) erm...dalam masa 2 bulan ni...aku ingat nak upgrade lagi pc aku...so, aku ingat, nanti aku nak spend RM500...dalam RM500 tu, aku ingat nak rembat 2 keping RAM 256DDR 400Mhz...pastu, aku nak taruk GC lak...so, 2 keping RAM tu, aku rasa leh dapat RM300...GC aku tak tau brape harga...ade ke round RM200?...ke GC yg RM200 ni, hampeh nye?...aku perlukan pendapat korang...yg RAM tu, maybe aku balas kingston or apacer...yg GC, aku tak tau lagi jenis mane...ade cadangan tak?...satu lagi, kire ok ke kalu aku upgrade camnih?...ke ade cara yg lebih baik lagi nak upgrade pc aku?...←aku rasa tindakan ko angkat asus p4p800 tu ok ler.... sbb aku dah 4 bulan pakai mobo asus p4p800-deluxe n performance dia mmg bagus... tidak mengeciwakan... lagipon mobo nie byk function... pastuh kalu ko nak tuko GC, kalu dlm rm200 tuh maybe bole angkat ATI Radeon 9200 SE 128mb. aku beli ari tuh dlm 160 inggit ajer... brand powercolor... kalu brand lain pon range harga dia lebih kurang. power supply try check brand ACBEL... rege mahal laaa.... tapi berbaloi sbb ada skalik voltage regulator.. pastuh siap ader lampu lagik... warna warni lak tuh... hehee... rege aku beli hari tuh rm280. tapi puas hati... sbb stable... nak oc pon besh!!!weh... nape ko nak angkat 2keping ram 256 ddr? angkat ajer laaa 512 skeping... nanti bole tambah lagi kalu memerlukan... rege pon lebih kuang ajer... tu pendapat aku laaa... oyaitt... Edited October 21, 2004 by mazaziman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 jgn amik ATI version SE..hampeh sungguh..baik amik FX5200 128mb 128bit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 ATI Radeon ok but jgn amik yang SE...Se pakai 64bit memory controller...hampeh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 ATI Radeon ok but jgn amik yang SE...Se pakai 64bit memory controller...hampeh...←erm, erm...aku tak paham...camne nak kenal GC yg bagus?...kalau mobo, kite tgk slot RAM nye...chipset nye...USB nye...network nye...ntah ape2 lagi...so, kalu GC...nak tgk ape?...GC ni takde chipset ke?...kalau ade chipset, chipset ape lak yg bagus?...yg 128 tu, ape?...satu laei...kalau nak rekemen pun, tgk rege la dulu...ni satu lagi aku nak tanye...mobo aku skrg nih, dual channel...so, aku sembang2 ngan org kedai tempat aku beli semalam...dia kate, better kite gune kan kedua2 slot...lagi best utk dual channel...aku tak brape dapat tangkap sangat ape dia cakap...tapi, ade la bunyinye lebih kurang cam ni...kalau gune satu slot...dia akan gune 64 bit...kalau gune kan kedua2 slot, dia akan run 128 bit...erm, ye ke?...kalau salah, tolong betul kan... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) GC ade due jenis chipset..ATI ngan nVidia..ATI good for best quality..nVidia good for best performance (laju)..setiap GC plak ade ram (64mb,128mb,256mb)..ram plak ade memory bandwidth..64bit,128bit n 256bit..so better ko amik 128bit/256bit..psl mobo plak..tokey tuh rekemenkan ko pakai dual channel..coz dual channel laju skit..128bit on p4 lagi best dr 128bit kat amd nih.. Edited October 21, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 GC ade due jenis chipset..ATI ngan nVidia..ATI good for best quality..nVidia good for best performance (laju)..setiap GC plak ade ram (64mb,128mb,256mb)..ram plak ade memory bandwidth..64bit,128bit n 256bit..so better ko amik 128bit/256bit..psl mobo plak..tokey tuh rekemenkan ko pakai dual channel..coz dual channel laju skit..128bit on p4 lagi best dr 128bit kat amd nih..←ooo...tu beza ATI ngan nVidia...so, ko nak rekemen yg best quality ke, or yg best performance?...senang citer, kalau ko, ko pilih GC yg mane?...aku ade gak tgk GC ASUS...mmg ade dua jenis chipset je...tapi, still tak tau camne nak kenal GC yg elok...bleh citer lagi pasal dual-channel tak?...sbb aku tak brape clear lagi arr...erm, kalau aku gune satu slot RAM je pun, dia akan run 128bit gak ke?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) klu aku lebih suke kpd ATI..baru best skit main game.. klu budget ko dlm RM400+ better amik ati 9600pro..lagi best dr fx5700..tp skang nih 6800/x800 dah kuar..lagi besh nih.. klu single ram,thats mean 64bit je..klu ko letak dual-channel ram,128bit la..dual channel = double speed of memory bandwith.. Edited October 21, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 klu aku lebih suke kpd ATI..baru best skit main game.. klu budget ko dlm RM400+ better amik ati 9600pro..lagi best dr fx5700..tp skang nih 6800/x800 dah kuar..lagi besh nih.. klu single ram,thats mean 64bit je..klu ko letak dual-channel ram,128bit la..dual channel = double speed of memory bandwith..←ooo...ok...makna nye, walau pun aku gune satu slot RAM je, RAM tu tetap run 128bit la ek?...erm, mahal nye GC...takde ke yg power, rege round RM200 je?...kalau takde, maybe malas la aku pasang GC...so, tanye ko dulu la kan, ade tak yg best rege cam nih?...hmm...pelik gak...nape rege GC lagi mahal dari mobo?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 lorrr...klu ko nk running at 128bit,kene ade 2 ram (due slot)..klu ko letak satu slot,die akan detect sbg single channel (64bit)single channel = 64bitdual channel = 128bitGC yg RM200 tuh jenis FX5200 128mb 64bit..better ko add lagi RM60..so bole dpt FX5200 128MB 128bit.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 lupe aku nak cakap...GC ni, aku bukan takat nak support game je...pada aku, aku lebih pada multimedia...aku tak nak beban kan sangat grafic pada proc...tu la pasal, aku berkire nak pasang GC ni...erm, betoi ke ape yg aku pikir nih?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 apa lak burn...420w tu berapa watt power supply to leh support...baik angkat yang lebih sedikit sediakan headroom ...baik lebih daripada cukup2 je...←aku tgk katalog...power supply 420w, baru RM50...aku tukar power supply je la kot...tapi, satu yg penting aku nak tanye...kalu aku tukar ke 420w, wajib ke aku pasang headroom gak?...headroom ni, pasang kat proc kan?...supaya proc tak panas sangat sbb power dah byk masuk...betul ke ape yg aku paham nih?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 (edited) maksud si athlonium tuh..die suruh ko angkat psu yg lebih skit dr 420w tuh..headroom tuh ruang power dlm psu la..klu psu tinggi,baru la best letak mcm² jenis hardware..klu x silap aku la.. Edited October 21, 2004 by smile4me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 maksud si athlonium tuh..die suruh ko angkat psu yg lebih skit dr 420w tuh..headroom tuh ruang power dlm psu la..klu psu tinggi,baru la best letak mcm² jenis hardware..klu x silap aku la.. ←nak angkat lebih dari 420w?...wah, ni tak mungkin...aku rasa cukup laa...aku bukan nak tambah hardware ape sangat...aku nak tambah RAM ngan GC je...aku rasa, 420w tu, dah cukup...ye ke?...terang kan kalau aku salah...kan ade budak tu cakap...dari aku amik 2keping RAM 256...dia kate baik amik RAM 512 sekeping terus...erm, tu la aku pikir...kalau aku amik 2 keping RAM 256, dapat up bit dia sampai 128bit...baru puas ati...kalau aku gune sekeping RAM 512, dia still run 64bit je...betoi ke aku paham nih?...so, korang rasa, mane lagi better?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smile4me 1 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 klu ko juz add GC dan ram je,420w pun dah cukup..budak tu suruh ko beli 512mb sekeping coz nanti ko bole add lagi 512mb akan datang.. klu ko pakai sekeping,die juz running at 64bit je..baik amik due..bole run 128bit..nanti klu ade duit lagi,add la lagi due ram.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Baik ko angkat 2 x 256MB DDR400 utk best run dual channel...Satu lagi ko kena beli jugak GC klo tak camner nak hidup PC..Mobo Asus tu mana ada built-in VGA..Ko ni bukan hardcore gamerz kan?Memadai dgn GeForce FX5200 128MB 128-Bit..Pasal PSU 420W tu bukan true power..Bacaan sebenar ntah sampai ke tidak 300W.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
