yeop 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 assalamualaikum...erm, ade sape2 tau tak, nape agak nye aku rasa tak puas hati ngan proc nih?...ni spec pc aku...intel pentium 4 2.4 1MB L2cache...HDD 40GB (tak ingat jenis ape)...Mobo MSI...tak ingat jenis mane...tapi 533 (unit apo ntah)...siap ado cop prescott lagi)...chipset VIA...RAM 256DDR 333Mhz...casing ATX 350w...DVD-rom...monitor cap ayam...kalu nak tgk screenie sandra, klik sinisory la, coz tak pandai nak upload kat sini...erm, masalah nye?...camne nak cakap ek?...rasa cam lembap semacam kot...kalu nak banding ngan pentium 4 1.8, rasa cam tak jauh beza...kalu nak bukak photoshop ke, dreamweaver ke...mmg lembab laa...ke software tu mmg lambat loading?...satu lagi masalah besar...setting monitor dia selalu lari...pehal ha?...korang tau tak nape?...kekadang screen tu cam senget skit...kekadang screen jadik beso...kekadang terlebih warna biru...kekadang terlebih warna kuning...kalu jadik camni, korang tau ape aku buat?...restart je laa...hu hu...sadis sadis...kekadang kalu nak dapat kan setting asal dia balik, kena restart sampai 2-3 kali...ape masalah nye?...ade kaitan ngan proc ke?...tulun la hamba nih... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yem 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 satu lagi masalah besar...setting monitor dia selalu lari...pehal ha?...korang tau tak nape?...kekadang screen tu cam senget skit...kekadang screen jadik beso...kekadang terlebih warna biru...kekadang terlebih warna kuning...kalu jadik camni, korang tau ape aku buat?...restart je laa...hu hu...sadis sadis...kekadang kalu nak dapat kan setting asal dia balik, kena restart sampai 2-3 kali...ape masalah nye?...ade kaitan ngan proc ke?...pc aku yg amd pun ade sikit masalah ni, aku rasa bukan proc punye masalah, mungkin driver yg buat kacau. aku nak tau samada kau pakai winxp sp2 ker? ker driver utk xp ade masalah, ini krn aku swap harddisk lain + winme= ok je, takde masalah display. tapi winme kureng. aku nak pakai xp jugak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yem 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 Mobo MSI...tak ingat jenis mane...tapi 533 (unit apo ntah)...siap ado cop prescott lagi)...chipset VIA...RAM 256DDR 333Mhz...casing ATX 350w...slow mcm tu, aku rekomen kau tukar motherboard baru(intel chipset 865) + tambah ram jadikan dia 512mb (333mhz) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arfaie 15 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 pakai GC ker onboard VGA??? lagipun ko guna VIA chipset mana besh, carik intel chipset laaa, stkt cop prescott tue apa brg ada??? angkat is-7 series ker, 865intel ker, MSI neo ker...ram kasik up lagik 512mb, baru okies... setakat CPU power tapi hardware lain biasa, mana nak rasa power...monitor ko mungkin rusak kut, cuba tanya tokei kedai tue balik, kalu ada warranty lagik, mintak jer yg baru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 cube 2 ni dulu1. update latest VIA driver2. flash BIOSaku penah kena p4 2.4A ni.ngan mobo gigabyte,siap hang2 lagi.pastu bile nak update BIOS sume OK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 Berapa ko habis utk spec tuh?Cuba ingatkan ko guna MSI aper..Aku teka mesti guna onboard VGA kan?Ermz...Sempron rules!!!~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 cube 2 ni dulu1. update latest VIA driver2. flash BIOSaku penah kena p4 2.4A ni.ngan mobo gigabyte,siap hang2 lagi.pastu bile nak update BIOS sume OK←aku try cadangan ko dulu...sbb tak melibatkan kos...hu hu...kalau melibatkan kos, akan dipertimbangkan kemudian...baru lagi aku beli maa...tak kan dah nak tukar itu ini...bajek dah banyak lari nih...tunggu la aku gune 5-6 bulan dulu ke, baru la aku tukar mobo ngan chipset lain kot...buat masa ni, aku harap korang tolong suggest dulu ape2 cadangan yg patut aku buat...to yem...aku gune OS XP...tak tau lak sp1 or sp2...org kedai tu yg install...to arfaei...utk pengetahuan ko, aku tak gune GC...sbb motherboard aku ni build-in...tapi kan, nape org kedai tu kate MSI ni bagus sangat?...masa nak beli aritu, aku mintak gak mobo ASUS...mati2 dia kate MSI ni bagus...kalau aku nak tukar chipset je, bleh ke?...kalau bleh, brape harga chipset intal yg korang cakap tu?...to sarge...ajar la aku camne nak update latest VIA ngan flash BIOS?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 kalau aku nak tukar chipset je, bleh ke?...kalau bleh, brape harga chipset intal yg korang cakap tu?...Chipset mana boleh dibeli bang...Dier tu datang skali ngn mobo..So nak rasa chipset Intel ko kena tukar board baru laa..Cadangan aku ko cari Graphic Card dan tambah RAM 256MB 1 keping lagi..Ko akan rasa perbezaan...Gerenti laju... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 cari VIA driver kat www.guru3d.comflash BIOS gune software MSI Live Update Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faxists 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 try download speedxp dan adjust chache dia.cth mcm dlm gambar tu chache dia 512so nkonyer 1024..try lah pasti ada perubahan.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted October 15, 2004 (edited) Processor POWER tak semestinye computer kau power. aku selalu jumpa P4 1.4Ghz ~ P4 1.8Ghz yg overal performance lagi teruk dari P3 800EB aku.problems sekarang, overal performance bergantung ngan overal hardware. Jangan nak mimpi pakai P4P2.4Ghz lagi power dari org yg pakai P4NES 20X MULT kalau kau pakai mobo mid end or low end.real power came with high end gadget. maksud aku kalau kau pakai mobo < RM400, than memang system kau tak optimised. tak semua power Processor digunakan. Lagging, Bottle Neck kat mobo. Processor hanya process data, tapi kalau bandwidth processor ke chipset ke ram kecik, kan dah problems.Than Quality mobo, cara design, inteference between track mempengaruhi performance. So, always dapatkan mobo yg bagus cam ASUS. ASUS always used 6 layer board for HIGH end system. kelebihan dia, less inteference, short path and more performance.______________________________________EDITtambahan; Kepada pengguna Intel Processor, PLEASE used INTEL ChipSET, and no others 3rd party chipset. aku tak leh bagi tau reason dia (NDA).kalau kau pakai AMD, nFORCE antara yg terbaik aku pernah jumpa. Edited October 15, 2004 by mus3na Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) kalau pakai AMD....better nFORCE ngan VIA chipset...for intel mmg Intel chipset...VIA hampeh, SIS ok skit...intel mmg nak dominate smua bende...hampeh...tau la resource banyak...lagi satu kalau nak performance sama ngan AMD kena pakai RM400> nya mobo sure power...kalau pakai rm200 kebawah hampeh giler babeng mcm pakai Duron je P4 korang...selalunya on SIS chipset...AMD kalau beli rm170 nya mobo pon ok ...yang pakai VIA KT400a/KT600...aku selalu bandingkan performance ni beli pasangkan utk customer...hehe...aku buat side income...kekadang ade gak yang degil nak beli intel...hehehe..mus3na jgn marah...aku hardcore AMD laa...bukan sbb ape sbb power and becoz "more bang for my money" .... Edited October 16, 2004 by athlonium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arfaie 15 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 to arfaei...utk pengetahuan ko, aku tak gune GC...sbb motherboard aku ni build-in...tapi kan, nape org kedai tu kate MSI ni bagus sangat?...masa nak beli aritu, aku mintak gak mobo ASUS...mati2 dia kate MSI ni bagus...biasalaa org meniaga cam tue laa, nak jual brg dia takkan nak kata brg dia tak bagus lak anyway, tak guna GC tak per.... pada aku tak menjejaskan performance PC utk task biasa melainkan gaming.... kalu lepas nie nak tukar board, carik trus yg chipset intel, takyah nak dengar cakap tokei kedai tue laie... rembat IS7-E pun okey gak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 AMD murah sangat, kalau beli takde rasa bangga Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 tapi dgn performance dia kita rasa bangga...Intel skrang ade masalah takkan ko tak perasan...masalah dia mcm Pentium III dulu takleh nak up Mhz lagi....AMD is the first 1Ghz processor...now AMD is the first 4000+ rating processor ...hahah and Intel just cancelled 4Ghz processor...and now want to make a frequency and IPC balanced...first with Pentium M....now cancel Tejas cores...mimpi arr nak buat 10Ghz...impian Intel masa reka Netburst tech...dan nak buat triple core...Prescott kununnya dapat up sampai 5Ghz tak kesampaian...kunun dgn tambah pipeline bleh up Mhz..hahah...harap maap...panas la plak... tue aku cakap Intel tah ape2 tah...processor tak best...tapi jual mahal...dulu 1Ghz ke 2Ghz makan baper bulan je...but 2Ghz nak ke 3.6Ghz makan 2 thn hahaha....so bile arr nak sampai 10Ghz tu??...aku rasa mmg tak kesampaian...sbb intel dah tukar roadmap...nak regenerate processor dia...low performance Pentium 4 ni akan ditukarkan kepada low frequency yet high in IPC...so takkan sampai la Ghz tinggi lepas ni...korang akan lebih keliru dengan Performance Rating Intel...Pentium 4 556 la ape la...pening aku... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faxists 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2004 dah bukak citer pasal proc mane power plak..kan die nak solution mcmana nak bagi up skit dienyer pc.so kalo suh beli mobo lain ker etc ker jgn lah,die blom teringin nak beli baru psl baru beli lagi...so tweakxp,speedxp or etc dpt tolong skit bagi laju window tu...kalau melibatkan kos, akan dipertimbangkan kemudian...baru lagi aku beli maa...tak kan dah nak tukar itu ini...bajek dah banyak lari nih...tunggu la aku gune 5-6 bulan dulu ke, baru la aku tukar mobo ngan chipset lain kot...buat masa ni, aku harap korang tolong suggest dulu ape2 cadangan yg patut aku buat...← Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2004 kalau nak citer pasal AMD vs Intel...aku rase baik pegi AMD vs Intel skang kita kembali ke pangkal jalan......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2004 ok2...meh kita ke pangkal jalan...ko try download PerfectDisk 6.0...program ni untuk defrag ur hard disk...better than Windows Defragmentation...becoz ko leh defrag boot file ...tapi kena offline (semasa nak boot windows)...lepas tu program ni susun file ikut keselaluan guna file...kalau nak carik yang ade keygen ko gi jiwang.org ade kat situe...ni jela yg dpt ku tolong...kalau nak best lagi hardware kena best...kalau setakat optimize windows ni tak kemana....oraitt... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
athlonium 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2004 aaa...lagi satu dari spec ko pakai 256MB je...tak cukup tu...tue minimum je tu...384MB pon ok...try tambah sure laju skit...kalau nak best lagi ...tukar AMD...hehehhe...ermm...ko nak pakai utk apa laju2 nih...ko terasa slow sngt ke or ....ermm...pasal VIA driver tu try download kat http://www.viaarena.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoodlums 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2004 Untuk update latest driver & bios mobo boleh gunakan utility MSI, MSI Live Update!...Software tu akan detect sendiri BIOS @ driver @ software yang terkini....Wokeh cun.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asdasd 9 Report post Posted October 18, 2004 kalau nak defrag tu ko bole try s/ware nih : Executive Software Diskeeper.yang bagus mende ni bole defrag on the fly, atau ko bole set utk run masa screen saver ko jalan. so ko tak rasa pon bila dia defrag... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeop 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 giler best la forum kat sini...byk arr korang cube bantu...thanks a lot... ni mobo yg aku gune...MSI P4MAM-V, VIA P4M266A+8235 Chipset Based, FSB 533Mhz...aku baru tgk kotak dia aritu...tapi kan, ye ke mobo ni support DDR sampai 266 je?...sbb RAM yg aku gune ni, 333Mhz...adakah performance RAM aku pun tak digunakan sepenuhnye oleh mobo nih?...erm, dari ape yg korang bincang kat sini...aku rasa pun, masalah ni mmg dari mobo yg hampeh...tapi, takpe la...sabo je laa...satu bende yg penting gak utk korang tau...kat umah aku takde line internet...hu hu aku surf internet ni pun, kat ofis...so, kalu nak buat live update utk flash bios tu, tak leh la kot...tu la pasal aku leh online masa ofis hour je...ade idea lain?...so tweakxp,speedxp or etc dpt tolong skit bagi laju window tu...camne cara nak buat ni?...ko try download PerfectDisk 6.0...ape tujuan bende ni?...kalau takat nak defrag je, takpe la aku gune window je kot...sbb aku bukak forum ni sbb nak tingkat kat sikit performance pc aku yg terasa hampeh nih...Untuk update latest driver & bios mobo boleh gunakan utility MSI, MSI Live Update!...Software tu akan detect sendiri BIOS @ driver @ software yang terkini....Wokeh cun..ni masalah aku, sbb tak leh online kat umah...ko nak pakai utk apa laju2 nih...ko terasa slow sngt ke or ....ermm...pasal VIA driver tu try download kat http://www.viaarena.comnanti aku try download VIA ni...aku tak tau ape tujuan nye...tapi, mungkin la nak update skit chipset ni kot...harap bleh install offline laa...aku bukan la nak sampai power tahap dewa pc aku ni cam korang yg hardcore ni kan...aku just nak gune utk multimedia je...tapi, kalu lembab semacam je, takut flash MX pun tak support...sbb tu la aku nak pc ni up skit...so, harap suma yang ade kat sini tak salah faham laa...to athlonium and mus3na...takyah la kite bincang performance proc mane lagi hebat...banyak sangat forum yg camtu aku tgk kat putera.com nih...hakikatnye skrg ni, aku dah gune intel...to faxists...thanks coz memahami masalah aku... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRS 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 (edited) spyware dan adware boleh melambatkan komputerbukak task manager korang dan check apa processes yg tgh jlnkalau nak laju, satu muka tu pun tak penuh. pastikan kamu tahu apa processes yg tgh jln kat komputer korang. manaler tahu ada processes yg spyware ke apa ke yg tgh sedut semua cpu usagetips: utk elakkan spyware dgn adware, jgn masuk laman yg pelik-pelik tuh. lebih-lebih lagi skrg ni bulan posa Edited October 19, 2004 by DRS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yem 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 satu bende yg penting gak utk korang tau...kat umah aku takde line internet...hu hkat rumah dia takde internet lah, mcm mana leh masuk spyware Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mus3na 5 Report post Posted October 19, 2004 ni soalan sapa yg di discusskan, yeop ke yem! aku dah confuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
