Amd Vs Pentium... Mana Satu Nak Ni...

[midie 0]

hahaha.. sorilah nak gaduh2 ni. apehal wat capslock plak kalau xmarah. hehehe.. penekanan tu ader bro..

chow..

oh sorrylah, aku x tau pulak yg capslock dan jadi pulak tanda marah...

[subarulimited 0]

askom u all....thx beri pendapat....ok aku rasa nk tyr lak AMD lh....bajet rm900 kebwh....apa yg aku blh dpt?mobo 2 motherboard ke?aku skg ni nk beli hardisk 120GB.jns IDE kot!klu aku nk tkr cpu br.blh ke hardisk ni gn lg?bkn yg br SATA ke?

[narutet 0]

askum ahaha TS pinjam thread jap..err nak tanye la..saye nak pakai AMD X2 4200,ram 1 Gb,ngan 7950GT..agak agak nye mampu x rig saye ni utk jadi mid end gaming rig(saya ni casual gamer)?ok x 4200 tu?ade org suggest saye beli X2 3800 tp takut bottleneck GC...ke mmg x bottleneck?saye pon kompius huhu...bajet saye rendah je x banyak..RM1500 utk proc,mobo,ram ngan GC..sekian terima kasieyy..ingat nak pakai C2D tp harga mahal la..mobo die pon mahal..so better amek AMD..best bang for the buck org kate..

mengikut review ramai forumer lat LYN,mmg intel lagi hebat dari AMD,tp hanye beberape saat je di hadapan AMD.kalau kite gune pc AMD ngan Intel (C2D),x dapat rase sgt pon 'kelajuan' Intel tu...depends jugak bape ram yg anda pakai,anda OC ke x,GC yg anda pakai dsbgnya...ia terlalu sbjektif...ade sesetenghnye,bile benchmark markah tinggi,tp real time performance nye agak rendah....tp dari segi harga,mmg AMD menang....murah je huhu...kite kalau nak beli,kene ikut kemampuan kite..jgn main belii je...intel C2P(penryn) tu pon hebat gile KALAU di OC..kalau x OC?baik beli AMD kan?sekian saje dari saye melaporkan ahaha

Edited June 15, 2007 by narutet

[HexPhoenix 1]

mr narutet,geforce 7 x bootleneck ngan maner2 amd athlon x2 series. tapi ikut kate budak2 putera nih, 8800 dah bottleneck klo gune proc 5200+ ke bawah.

so, ade plan nak angkut 8800 (x kire gts @ gtx @ ultra)

[memito 0]

ini pendpt aku sj .....

yang masalah terjadinya isu bottleneck performance gc ni walaupun gc tu mahal..sehingga mencecah 1k+-,itu mungkin disebabkan setting pd game itu..kalau smua anda setting high setting atau uptra

setting pd game sudah tentu game tu akan ada lag skit2 wpunx byk...seolah2 gc tu dah x dpt bernyawa sbb terlalu bekerja keras utk load grafik yang datang bertali arus dgn muatan berat.

tambahan kalau kita main game yang grafik cantik yang igt mcm CnC3 tiberium wars,NFSC,spiderman 3 dll.....

tapi performance gc jugak bergantung pd proc dan ram anda...lg tinggi lg ok.....ram mau sekurang2 1 gig..itu pun aku rasa belum lg mencukupi utk game terkini yg sempoi2....mau x mau letaklah 2 gig utk kaki game ini ....baru rasa smooth game tu....

[sarge 1]

ini pendpt aku sj .....

yang masalah terjadinya isu bottleneck performance gc ni walaupun gc tu mahal..sehingga mencecah 1k+-,itu mungkin disebabkan setting pd game itu..kalau smua anda setting high setting atau uptrau....

bottleneck berlaku bukan sbb setting.Tapi sbb hardware tak seimbang.Kalau cpu rendah cam p4 tapi gc kaw2 cam 79xx series.So GPU/VPU dah cukup power utk render grafik dari games tu.Tapi sbb cpu, games yg kita main tu jadik sempot jgk.

[narutet 0]

bottleneck berlaku bukan sbb setting.Tapi sbb hardware tak seimbang.Kalau cpu rendah cam p4 tapi gc kaw2 cam 79xx series.So GPU/VPU dah cukup power utk render grafik dari games tu.Tapi sbb cpu, games yg kita main tu jadik sempot jgk.

huhu kalau gune P4,gune 7900GS pon da bottleneck rasenye...tp kalau X2 4200 ngan 8800GTS?

[subarulimited 0]

harap membantu.....bajet rm600 kebawah...cpu amd64 athlonx2,mobo abit,ram......boleh dapat ke dengan bajet aku ni?

[sopi 0]

yang korang bangga sangat dengan amd tu sejuk nape

memang la sejuk dah kalau transistor dier sket je

wakakaka..aku nak pertahanakan gak intel

banding ngan transistor core 2 duo lagi banyak laa

ape2 pun core2 duo lagi power

dan lagi satu kalau nak banding proc amd ngan intel

bagi la tau jenis skali

setakat bagitau x2 6000 lawan core 2 duo mmg la

x2 6000 mmg lagi power dari e6300,e6400

cube banding ngan e6600

Edited June 18, 2007 by sopi

[SiO2 0]

huhu kalau gune P4,gune 7900GS pon da bottleneck rasenye...tp kalau X2 4200 ngan 8800GTS?

dulu aku pki 88GTS ng X2 4200+ @ 2.6Ghz...score 3Dmark06 lbh kurang 8005 je.ble pki c2d e6600 default (2.4G),naik ke 8700. so nmpk sgt yg cpu haku bottleneck ler 4200.2psl tukar ke c2d.

[HexPhoenix 1]

yang korang bangga sangat dengan amd tu sejuk nape

memang la sejuk dah kalau transistor dier sket je

wakakaka..aku nak pertahanakan gak intel

banding ngan transistor core 2 duo lagi banyak laa

ape2 pun core2 duo lagi power

dan lagi satu kalau nak banding proc amd ngan intel

bagi la tau jenis skali

setakat bagitau x2 6000 lawan core 2 duo mmg la

x2 6000 mmg lagi power dari e6300,e6400

cube banding ngan e6600

kitorang x bangge amd sejuk.... stock fan c2d dah lagi sejuk dari x2 dah... tapi... sape lagi murah?

p/s: e6600 kaloh lawan 6000. e6700 baru menang.

[jimie86 0]

asalam bro2 sume dlm room nie..err,sy msh lg bru kt cn,so kalo ader silap harap maaf & perbetulkan yea...

camnie..sy cdg nk beli satu laptop, bajet dlm rm3000 - 3500

biaser2 sy gune ntok buat asgmnt,tgk muvie time borink2,surf internet kalo bleyh, n yg penting bley sapport ntok kerja2 berat like riping@convert formet muvie (biaser2 mau dekat 2 jam gune pc pentium 4), jugak keje2 programmg n grafik like photoshop, pape lagi la yg sewaktu dengannya...termasuk game cam counter strike cs, dota k...

jd kt bwh nie ader la spec yg aku servei sket, jd minta pendapat bro@otai2 sakalian ntok dptkan spec terbaik pd harga seminimal mungkin...check it out ==>

BRAND : Toshiba Tecra M8

CPU : Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7700 (2.40GHz, 4MB L2, 800MHz FSB)

OS : Genuine Windows Vistaâ„¢ Business 32-Bit

MEMORY :1024MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (1024MBx1)

LCD : 13.3" Diagonal WXGA TruBrite® Display* (1280x800)

HDD : 160GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA)

OPTICAL MEDEA : DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive supporting 11 formats

Mini-PCI/WiFi : Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN (802.11a/g/n) Up to 5X faster than (802.11a/b/g)

Bluetooth : No Bluetooth (No Antenna)

3 Years Standard Limited Warranty

Ha..cam tu la lbeh kuang spec die..kalo bleh dpat dlm range harge tu, n kalo nk match kn spec yg sesuai,cam CPU intel core2duo ngan amd X2, mane lg berbaloi sila bg cadangan yg membina...thanks..

[sopi 0]

lebih baik ko bukak thread baru..lol

pergh!!hexphoenix ye ke e6600 kalah ngan x2 6000

harga x2 6000 bape? banding ngan c2d e6600

[PGV3910 0]

asalam bro2 sume dlm room nie..err,sy msh lg bru kt cn,so kalo ader silap harap maaf & perbetulkan yea...

camnie..sy cdg nk beli satu laptop, bajet dlm rm3000 - 3500

biaser2 sy gune ntok buat asgmnt,tgk muvie time borink2,surf internet kalo bleyh, n yg penting bley sapport ntok kerja2 berat like riping@convert formet muvie (biaser2 mau dekat 2 jam gune pc pentium 4), jugak keje2 programmg n grafik like photoshop, pape lagi la yg sewaktu dengannya...termasuk game cam counter strike cs, dota k...

jd kt bwh nie ader la spec yg aku servei sket, jd minta pendapat bro@otai2 sakalian ntok dptkan spec terbaik pd harga seminimal mungkin...check it out ==>

BRAND : Toshiba Tecra M8

CPU : Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7700 (2.40GHz, 4MB L2, 800MHz FSB)

OS : Genuine Windows Vistaâ„¢ Business 32-Bit

MEMORY :1024MB PC5300 DDR2 667MHz SDRAM (1024MBx1)

LCD : 13.3" Diagonal WXGA TruBrite® Display* (1280x800)

HDD : 160GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial-ATA)

OPTICAL MEDEA : DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive supporting 11 formats

Mini-PCI/WiFi : Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965 AGN (802.11a/g/n) Up to 5X faster than (802.11a/b/g)

Bluetooth : No Bluetooth (No Antenna)

3 Years Standard Limited Warranty

Ha..cam tu la lbeh kuang spec die..kalo bleh dpat dlm range harge tu, n kalo nk match kn spec yg sesuai,cam CPU intel core2duo ngan amd X2, mane lg berbaloi sila bg cadangan yg membina...thanks..

sian ko...dah kena sound..org tgh rancak berdebat ko masuk line.bukak thread baru je k..bump 4 u!

lebih baik ko bukak thread baru..lol

pergh!!hexphoenix ye ke e6600 kalah ngan x2 6000

harga x2 6000 bape? banding ngan c2d e6600

betul tu sopi...x2 6000 hammered e6600 4 sure!e6700 jer yg leh menang ngn dia rega e6700 plak memang afdhal..

[kuya 0]

korang baca sendirilah.... malas nak komen.......

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=563

Back in May when speculation on AMD’s “Barcelona†quad-core CPU was still running rampant, I wrote that “AMD Barcelona can potentially smash Intel†if high clock speeds at sufficient yields could be produced in a timely manner. AMD needed to hit 2.5 GHz to reclaim the performance crown and release the product on time in July to give it some breathing room before Intel strikes back with its new 45nm “Penryn†processor at the end of the year. Now that it has been confirmed that AMD will miss their original Barcelona release date by at least 2 months and the best clock speed they can do is 2.0 GHz, the future is looking grim for AMD. With shocking news like this it’s no wonder AMD decided to announce Barcelona’s release schedule and clock speeds on iPhone Friday.

Based on AMD’s own claims, the quad-core CPU codenamed “Barcelona†will have a 20% clock-for-clock advantage on Integer performance over Intel’s “Clovertown†quad-core CPU. [uPDATE 7/4/2007 - The 20% clock-for-clock advantage claimed by AMD is actually a 1% clock-for-clock advantage in the dual-socket 8-core Server space. Intel holds a much stronger clock-for-clock position with fewer core tests since that doesn’t put as much a strain on their shared memory controller and FSB architecture.] The problem is that they’re now facing a 50% deficit in clock speeds compared to Intel’s 3.0 GHz quad-core CPUs so a 20% [uPDATE 7/4/2007 - actually a 1% clock-for-clock advantage] clock-for-clock advantage doesn’t come close to beating Intel. At this rate the only thing that Barcelona is going to smash are AMD’s existing dual-core CPUs and last year’s Intel dual-core products. By the time AMD releases the Barcelona product in September, Intel would have had nearly a full year’s lead in quad-core CPUs and it’s no wonder AMD has lost nearly all of its market share gains in just the last year.

Based on the paper AMD released at the ISSCC in March, it came to light that AMD’s Barcelona CPU had electrical capabilities that permitted a maximum clock speed of 2.8 GHz. At the height of the speculation on Barcelona in May, Charlie Demerjian reported that AMD was “dancing in the aisles†in Austin Texas because early indicators for Barcelona was so good that it would hit a whopping 2.9 GHz for a desktop part and 2.8 GHz for a Server part. That post fueled a lot of stories and cheers for AMD watchers but in hindsight it was couldn’t have been more wrong.

I asked CPU analyst David Kanter (Real World Technologies) what could be the problem behind AMD’s failure to deliver an Intel killer and Kanter came up with the following three possibilities.

Manufacturing cannot get the frequency high enough

There are speed paths that prevent higher clocking

You can hit high frequencies, but not within the TDP

Kanter noted that all those statements have an implied “with good yields†at the end. Manufacturing problems shouldn’t be surprising since that has always been an Achilles heel for AMD. As for the second possibility, Kanter explained that “Speed paths†mean that certain parts of the CPU can’t handle higher clock speeds even though the rest of the CPU can. Then there’s the possibility that manufacturing can hit the desired clock rates but with unacceptable amounts of leakage.

These problems may all just be temporary and AMD will eventually iron out the bumps and produce high quantities of higher clocked Barcelona CPUs, but time isn’t on AMD’s side when Intel’s tick-tock cadence keeps ticking away. If AMD manages to release higher clocked Barcelona CPUs closer to the end of the year, Intel will raise the bar even higher when it releases the Penryn processor.

[nivi 0]

aku kalo leh intel tu aku nak buat pc graphic / keje2 ape2 la animation ke rendering ke.. kalo amd tu gaming mmg sedap

bg aku

Intel : stable untuk cache die tinggi.. so ape2 kerje2 berat leh buat smpai 2 3 render sekali so mmg die power dalam HT and so on.. tp die pun ade kelemahan gak makin lama gune bertahun2 die akan out gak.

Amd : stable sbb process laju untuk satu prog contoh game.. die mmg cepat kalo single process ye la games paling diutamakan dalam amd... lg pun kelemahan die panas.. tp solution tu mmg dah lama still kalo dalam environment bilik yg biasa kelemahan die mmg pada suhu.

so itu bg aku la yg dah pnah gune both processor AMD 64 .. ngan Pentium 4/C2D .. perbezaan ketara bile spec sama ram sama motherboard sama.. try 1 - 1 games/software ... ade yg failure dier..

[MC Rafique 0]

klu cmtu ko lg baik ko bli

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ RM250

PC Chip A33G RM170

(AM2,DDR2,SATA,IDE)

(PCI-E,VGA,SOUND)

klu ko nk pki RAM ko pki 1GB DDR2 RM140

graphic card ko pakai mcam aku GeForce 7600GT RM380

bru brtenaga nk pakai....tul x

[subarulimited 0]

halo u all bro2.....aku nak tanya ni...aku nak bekli barang2 pc ni.korang rasa ok tak harga dia?lagi satu gempak ke set ni?AMD ATHLON 64 X2 DUAL 2.4GHZ 4600(RM370),RAM DDR2 533/677MHZ KINGSTON 1GB(RM120),MOBO ABIT NF-M2S(RM160)....ni sahaja k!harap korang dapat bantu......GC@SC aku x mau!

[huruhara 0]

halo u all bro2.....aku nak tanya ni...aku nak bekli barang2 pc ni.korang rasa ok tak harga dia?lagi satu gempak ke set ni?AMD ATHLON 64 X2 DUAL 2.4GHZ 4600(RM370),RAM DDR2 533/677MHZ KINGSTON 1GB(RM120),MOBO ABIT NF-M2S(RM160)....ni sahaja k!harap korang dapat bantu......GC@SC aku x mau!

JGN PAKAI abit ni..hehehehe.murah dah hampeh..aku dah kena tak ngam dgn amd x2 5200 aku --

clock speed tak dpt 2.6ghz..dapat 1ghz lebih jer

skang ni aku guna MSI K9N NEO..puas ati..

Edited July 16, 2007 by kay

[subarulimited 0]

ooo yeke!kwn aku yg syorkn....mobo yg ko pki 2 brp?msi mhl beb!

[huruhara 0]

ooo yeke!kwn aku yg syorkn....mobo yg ko pki 2 brp?msi mhl beb!

MSI K9N NEO @ MSI 7260 = RM 250

support hingga 4gb ram ..667/800

4 serial ata

tapi tak der onboard gc..hehehehe

[subarulimited 0]

bai sng kt chat dlm ym blh x?subarulimited

[huruhara 0]

bai sng kt chat dlm ym blh x?subarulimited

ok add aku dlm ym : huruhara_pmc